HIV and the transsexual

[thx1138]

I'm here. Recently my doctor asked me if I wanted to take an aids test. I laughed. I told him no because I was too old. No one looks at me anymore.

[Redkondor]

Had a full battery of test a few months ago. I called for the results and the guy over phone said everything is fine but we had a problem with the HIV results. A problem..He said they have to retest it. My heart dropped for two days I could not sleep. The results came back negative. But I remember that feeling of fear and helplessness. All the fun times I had with girls just didnt seem to matter. There is only one sure fire way..Its not pretty or preferred but its brutally necessary. I know a guy with HIV he his healthy and and a good guy takes one pill a day and says he feels fine. But in the end he has to take those pills or he'll get AIDS. Many of these girls are hot, the transmission rates with condoms are very small, the transmission rates from female to male are hardly measurable. Still with all those facts..It just doesnt seem worth it. Just my 2 cents. You cant unsuck a cock. Once you get it you have it and truly youll life will change.

[muhmuh]

As a post op, I don't menstruate, I don't have periods,
so no blood. I just got married to the man of my dreams.
My friends say it is okay, if he performs oral sex on me,
and when he inserts his penis in me he doesn't have to
wear a condom, are they correct?


Answer:

She is still at risk for contracting and spreading
any STD, that any other person would be.

i find this answer a bit surreal as i would imagine anone who got married has been in a relation with the person he or her is married to for at least 3 months (safeguard time between infection and the antibodies showing up in a test) and has been tested for all noteworthy stds by then or contacted all the ones the parter has anyway

[peggygee]

As a post op, I don't menstruate, I don't have periods,
so no blood. I just got married to the man of my dreams.
My friends say it is okay, if he performs oral sex on me,
and when he inserts his penis in me he doesn't have to
wear a condom, are they correct?


Answer:

She is still at risk for contracting and spreading
any STD, that any other person would be.

i find this answer a bit surreal as i would imagine anone who got married has been in a relation with the person he or her is married to for at least 3 months (safeguard time between infection and the antibodies showing up in a test) and has been tested for all noteworthy stds by then or contacted all the ones the parter has anyway

I can understand how you would feel it's very improbable.

I included it to illustrate how a post op woman is still capable of
infecting or of being infected by an STI.

Particularly if she or her or husband are creeping around, and having
unsafe sex outside of their marriage.

[peggygee]

Depending upon where in the UK/Europe one is prossing is not the huge crime it is in most parts of the United States.

In Sweden prostitution is illegal. In UK prostitution is legal but solicitation and kerb-crawling are not. In France prostitution is legal. In Italy too although pimping and advertisement of prostitution are illegal, and the carabinieri periodically shut down sites. In Spain all fully legal.

IMO Spain is definitely the model. The scene is exremely safe and there is a generally very high standard, which is good for the girls and also for the men. Nevertheless, STD's including HIV are still an issue.


Across Europe Public Health initiatives to increase awareness and reduce the risks of STD's are similarly inconsistent, ranging from excellent to non-existent. Some areas are very good with free condoms supplied to the girls and free, sometimes mandatory, health checks. A recent study in Rome amongst TG prostitutes showed a marked reduction in HIV incidence as a result of these. Other areas are less so.

However there are areas where there is a strong correlation between prostitution and drug dependency, or between financial hardship and prostitution, particularly in the case of single mothers. (Obviously not a TS-specific issue, duh.) Often these girls get into the clutches of loan sharks and this will cause real problems. I remember one girl I know saying "It's like this; most regular girls insist on condoms but if at the end of the line there's a girl who's desperate to score or has to pay off a shark, and will do anal bareback for an extra twenty quid, then the whole thing falls apart."

I have to say I think prohibition of prostitution is incredibly stupid and just leads to health and safety issues as the business goes underground. Legalise and licence, together with the provision of proper RLA's away from residential zones, has to be the proper way forward, backed with good public health and proper support, and dare I say it, training. (Yes! Training! BA Hons in Courtesanship-- and why the fuck not?) Being a prostitute is a job like any other and driving it into the arms of the criminal class, which is all prohibition does, helps no-one. Except the criminals and politicians, maybe.

Another issue that does not get enough attention here is bareback porn, which is worse than drunk driving. I've been in several rows with porn merchants here about this. Bareback porn not only sends out all the wrong messages to people in general it actively puts actors and actresses at risk. People should remember that even routine testing is a stable-door defence-- the person has the disease already. We have to promote across-the-board safe sex and the culture of PREVENTION.

I note that in recent months a new apparently Thai-based website has launched featuring bareback sex with the girls. It is to be hoped that people with integrity will refuse to have anything to do with it.

Ethically or morally I don't have any real problems with prostitution.

I do have concerns if as you alluded to organized crime forces the women
into it, or if there are minors involved.

But yes, let's legalize, regulate it, get some health protection and
coverage for those involved in it.

And please by all means let's have some sort of pension, retirement,and
training options in place for those will will at some point leave it.

[peggygee]

Had a full battery of test a few months ago. I called for the results and the guy over phone said everything is fine but we had a problem with the HIV results. A problem..He said they have to retest it. My heart dropped for two days I could not sleep.

The results came back negative. But I remember that feeling of fear and helplessness. All the fun times I had with girls just didnt seem to matter. There is only one sure fire way..Its not pretty or preferred but its brutally necessary. I know a guy with HIV he his healthy and and a good guy takes one pill a day and says he feels fine. But in the end he has to take those pills or he'll get AIDS. Many of these girls are hot, the transmission rates with condoms are very small, the transmission rates from female to male are hardly measurable. Still with all those facts..It just doesnt seem worth it. Just my 2 cents. You cant unsuck a cock. Once you get it you have it and truly youll life will change.

I was talking with someone who went through a similiar scenario, there
was a problem with their results.

they went through the 5 stages of grief:

The stages are:

Denial: The initial stage: "It can't be happening."
Anger: "Why ME? It's not fair!" (either referring to God, oneself, or anybody perceived, rightly or wrongly, as "responsible")
Bargaining: "Just let me live to see my child(ren) graduate."
Depression: "I'm so sad, why bother with anything?"
Acceptance: "It's going to be OK."

Ultimately they tested positive, but they are very healthy, and it actually
caused them to stop engaging in alot of self-destructive behavior.

[muhmuh]

I can understand how you would feel it's very improbable.

I included it to illustrate how a post op woman is still capable of
infecting or of being infected by an STI.

Particularly if she or her or husband are creeping around, and having
unsafe sex outside of their marriage.

well ok but if someone doesnt even feel safe from stds inside a marriage they might have other problems than stds to deal with


btw how the heck did this myth that you can see if someone in hiv+ come to be?

[peggygee]

I can understand how you would feel it's very improbable.

I included it to illustrate how a post op woman is still capable of
infecting or of being infected by an STI.

Particularly if she or her or husband are creeping around, and having
unsafe sex outside of their marriage.

well ok but if someone doesnt even feel safe from stds inside a marriage they might have other problems than stds to deal with


btw how the heck did this myth that you can see if someone in hiv+ come to be?

If only all people who were married were monogamous, or at a minimum
practiced safe sex then we might not have the pandemic that we have.

People are on the down low, creeping around, have friends with benifits,
and they ass-u-me that if the person looks healthy, that they're good to go.

Fatal mistake.

[peggygee]

Bareback Porn:

Condoms have been around in one form or another for almost 2000 years, and bottom line is most men do not like them, and would rather swim nude than with a swimsuit. However the threat of disease and unwanted pregnancy helped at least put some men's tackle into sheaths. Once the pill came along however, and most STD's could be cured by drugs, usage rates went way down. When AIDS came on the scene, and it was clear how it was spread, condoms again came back in style, but then as now, men still don't like them and even within the gay community there has been much backsliding to "unsafe" sex.

Prossing in Europe vs United States:

Europe is an old country, with over 2000 years of history, and as such many areas/cultures have worked out sex and prossing, which as been around ever since one woman found out she could make money for what others were giving away free. The United States OTHO was founded by strait-laced/anal-retentive religious who often said one thing in public, but did different things in private. Hence prossing is a huge crime and those that practice the trade are seen as beneath contempt. That they contract diseases in the course of their work, does not move many to offer assistance, just as they didn't for the many unwanted children which were the natural results of unprotected sex.

The Economics of "Working":

Have often said there are three types of workers: Those that are forced, those that wish to work, and those that have to work.

Leaving aside those that are forced, the persons who want to work often have other means of support to supplement their income and can be a bit more choosy on who they see and setting the rules of play. Those that have to work, are in sort of a bind as they can loose customers if they do not do what the customer wishes. Hence a girl who hasn't had a good day or week, and finally gets a client who demands unsafe sex, will probably have to go along. There used to be a joke in NYC that the best time to see girls was the day before Screw Magazine's ad day, when girls would need money to pay their adverts. Not only would rates come down in some cases, but even the girls who sat high on their horses would often come down and do a deal.

Being as all this may, seeing multiple sexual partners and engaging in unprotected sex weather for pay or free is simply not a good idea. There are trannies, who just like gay men like to sleep around, and again it is not easy telling who has AIDS. That hot papi picked up at the gym, bulging muscles and all can have AIDS, but the drugs are working well enough so you won't notice easily.

Bottom line is when someone is paying for a service, and this includes sex, the provider is at that person's mercy to fulfil their end of the deal. True if one is being flown to Saudi Arabia, the man in question is likely to insist you are "clean", but then again Ali Baba has paid you several thousands, and you better do what he says or find yourself in a very tight spot.

AIDS like most other diseases breeds and grows in secrecy and ignorance. Speaking of Saudi Arabia, and other Arab countries, there is a growing problem with AIDS, and since homosexual acts are illegal under Koran law, becoming infected is almost an admission of gay sex, so men are not likely to come forward for testing or treatment.

As have often stated, the sad thing about this current trend of promoting "escorting" as a career choice for young trannies is probably going to further increase the high numbers of AIDS in the community. Too many girls are focused on raking in funds, and too few on taking precautions to safe guard their health. Again, many do not have the position of power to insist a date do the right thing. This increases as their near their shelf life, and are no longer the "new girl" in town. In short they have to work harder to make the same or in some cases less money and that can lead to bad decision making.

Some states are moving towards mandatory testing for anyone arrested and or convicted of prossing. Others have made prossing while knowingly infected with AIDS a felony. While the first may have some benefits, the later simply pushes workers further down the path to hell. I mean if someone is HIV+, it is likely they would stop and seek treatment if they could. However services for former sex workers are few, and AIDS budgets are getting tight. Also many AIDS programs are not exactly welcoming of sex workers (don't ask me why), so they are stigmatised yet again.

Finally let us not put the blame all on the girls. It takes two to tango,and someone has to be infected by someone else to get AIDS. All those men out there jumping on trannies trade like a monkey on a cupcake, begging her to "come in my mouth", aren't helping things. Again multiply that activity by the number of girls a date has been with, and you begin to see the dangers. The smart thing would be for guys to admit what they are doing is high risk sex, and get tested often. But we've been down this path before.....

WOW

An incredibley powerful post.

[Redkondor]

Its funny when you think about how an incredibly strong urge can get you so much grief. I remember during the clinton affair this guy said sex for men is something that can take the least amount of time and cause the most amount of trouble. That always stuck with me. Having children wuld suck when youre not ready, but this HIV deal is just too much to deal with. BTW have you ever got geared up at see a gal, decided to jackoff then realize wonder what the hoopla was all about. Increasingly it seems like prostitution is like a drug and youll always be a recovering john. Im coming to realize that. On the upside, it sure has been a fun lucky ride. Ignorance is bliss.