HIV and the transsexual

[peggygee]

The old heads will remember this as a re-post, so please don't flame me.

For the newbs:

Welcome back students, trust you
had a pleasant summer.




We have a quick quiz for you, it is closed book.

Please use the #2 pencil given you and do not look at your neighbors answers.

You may begin, now.



1.Is oral sex safe , should I use a condom when performing it. If, I swallow am I am risk of getting HIV?


2. I like lambskin condoms, but my know it all girlfriend, says that we should not use them, who's right?


3.. My new boyfriend is fine, he is so handsome, he's got big muscles. He works out all the time, and plays sports. He doesn't do drugs or anything. I want our first time that we have sex to be special, so I don't want him to wear a condom, is that okay?


4.I am non op transsexual, and I am HIV+. I had a orchiectomy, I was castrated, thus I no longer ejaculate. it would be safe to put my penis in my boyfriend, right?



5. My boyfriend is HIV+, and the condom broke in me while we were having anal sex, what should I do?


6. This girl that I have been after for months, finally gave in and said that we could have sex. But she, said 'I must lick it, before I stick it'. She told me to get dental dams. I am not a dentist or an engineer, so don't know what that is. It is 2 in the morning, she's rolling her hair, and putting on face cream, what can I do?


7.As a post op, I don't menstruate, I don't have periods, so no blood. I just got married to the man of my dreams. My friends say it is okay, if he performs oral sex on me, and when he inserts his penis in me he doesn't have to wear a condom, are they correct?

[qeuqheeg222]

it sure is funny how nobody comes to talk here in this thread...i think i hear some frogs singin in the background that i normally couldnt hear above the noise..one thing down here is many of the tg escorts practice oral with a condom....i think more to do with the rampant syphillis(sp?)that comes off the boat than hiv...sad but true..i have been to sub saharan africa and when one comes to a country and sees whole villages of orphans or not a single old man any where you realize the scope of this problem...

[mbf]

it sure is funny how nobody comes to talk here in this thread...i think i hear some frogs singin in the background that i normally couldnt hear above the noise..one thing down here is many of the tg escorts practice oral with a condom....i think more to do with the rampant syphillis(sp?)that comes off the boat than hiv...sad but true..i have been to sub saharan africa and when one comes to a country and sees whole villages of orphans or not a single old man any where you realize the scope of this problem...

why no one talks in these threads? hmmm, a considerate person will not have unprotected sex. period.

a fool will .

you can only repeat the basic facts, and either preach to the converted or to the deaf on that subject. sadly enough, the deaf dont care and dont listen.

as for the latest statistics and more on the subject:
http://www.unaids.org/en/

[MacShreach]

Depending upon where in the UK/Europe one is prossing is not the huge crime it is in most parts of the United States.

In Sweden prostitution is illegal. In UK prostitution is legal but solicitation and kerb-crawling are not. In France prostitution is legal. In Italy too although pimping and advertisement of prostitution are illegal, and the carabinieri periodically shut down sites. In Spain all fully legal.

IMO Spain is definitely the model. The scene is exremely safe and there is a generally very high standard, which is good for the girls and also for the men. Nevertheless, STD's including HIV are still an issue.


Across Europe Public Health initiatives to increase awareness and reduce the risks of STD's are similarly inconsistent, ranging from excellent to non-existent. Some areas are very good with free condoms supplied to the girls and free, sometimes mandatory, health checks. A recent study in Rome amongst TG prostitutes showed a marked reduction in HIV incidence as a result of these. Other areas are less so.

However there are areas where there is a strong correlation between prostitution and drug dependency, or between financial hardship and prostitution, particularly in the case of single mothers. (Obviously not a TS-specific issue, duh.) Often these girls get into the clutches of loan sharks and this will cause real problems. I remember one girl I know saying "It's like this; most regular girls insist on condoms but if at the end of the line there's a girl who's desperate to score or has to pay off a shark, and will do anal bareback for an extra twenty quid, then the whole thing falls apart."

I have to say I think prohibition of prostitution is incredibly stupid and just leads to health and safety issues as the business goes underground. Legalise and licence, together with the provision of proper RLA's away from residential zones, has to be the proper way forward, backed with good public health and proper support, and dare I say it, training. (Yes! Training! BA Hons in Courtesanship-- and why the fuck not?) Being a prostitute is a job like any other and driving it into the arms of the criminal class, which is all prohibition does, helps no-one. Except the criminals and politicians, maybe.

Another issue that does not get enough attention here is bareback porn, which is worse than drunk driving. I've been in several rows with porn merchants here about this. Bareback porn not only sends out all the wrong messages to people in general it actively puts actors and actresses at risk. People should remember that even routine testing is a stable-door defence-- the person has the disease already. We have to promote across-the-board safe sex and the culture of PREVENTION.

I note that in recent months a new apparently Thai-based website has launched featuring bareback sex with the girls. It is to be hoped that people with integrity will refuse to have anything to do with it.

[muhmuh]

The old heads will remember this as a re-post

i do and i most certainly remember this answer to it
(sry if it drags down the thread a bit but its rather sensible at the end and a laugh every now and then will help any topic especially if its a downer like hiv)

Lord Goatse has not posted for a while, but thought that he should offer his advice to the earnest members of this forum.

1.Is oral sex safe , should I use a condom when performing it. If, I swallow am I am risk of getting HIV?

Lord Goatse feels that if you need to swallow, your partner is performing fellatio incorrectly, and needs lessons.


2. I like lambskin condoms, but my know it all girlfriend, says that we should not use them, whose right?

Lord Goatse has not heard of Lambskin condoms. He has heard of the term 'sheepshagger'.


3.. My new boyfriend is fine, he is so handsome, he's got big muscles. He works out all the time, and plays sports. He doesn't do drugs or anything. I want our first time that we have sex to be special, so I don't want him to wear a condom, is that okay?

Lord Goatse feels that your new boyfriend sounds like a bit of a poofter. Don't touch him, even with a shit-covered bargepole.


4.I am non op transsexual, and I am HIV+. I had a orchiectomy, I was castrated, thus I no longer ejaculate. it would be safe to put my penis in my boyfriend, right?

Lord Goatse feels it depends if your penis is still attached, too.



5. My boyfriend is HIV+, and the condom broke in me while we were having anal sex, what should I do?

Lord Goatse feels that your boyfriend suffers from an awful lot of bad luck. Fate is trying to tell you something.


6. This girl that I have been after for months, finally gave in and said that we could have sex. But she, said 'I must lick it, before I stick it'. She told me to get dental dams. I am not a dentist or an engineer, so don't know what that is. It is 2 in the morning, she's rolling her hair, and putting on face cream, what can I do?

Lord Goatse always finds that one off the wrist can help in awkward situations.


7.As a post op, I don't menstruate, I don't have periods, so no blood. I just got married to the man of my dreams. My friends say it is okay, if he performs oral sex on me, and when he inserts his penis in me he doesn't have to wear a condom, are they correct?

Lord Goatse feels that the risk of pregnancy is somewhat low. One up the arse is alway a useful policy if in doubt.



On a more sensible note, my Butler, Bentley (who is typing this) feels that it is important to tell you to always use a barrier contraception, regardless of the situation, and if you feel that you have been exposed to a risk of HIV, seek a physician's advice as soon as possible - post exposure prophylaxis saves lives.

[peggygee]

I like lambskin condoms, but my know it
all girlfriend, says that we shouldn't use them,
who's right?


First off, women are always right,
and you should always listen to us.



But seriously guys, you should never put your
penis in anything that involves a lamb.


Lambskin condoms, while allowing a very high degree
of sensation, will allow the HIV virus to pass through,
and possibly lead to disease transmission. They are useful
at blocking sperm cells, but due to very small size of
the STD cells including HIV, they can not block those cells.



Additionally, lambskin condoms can easily slip
off the penis, thus clearly lambskin condoms
should not be used to prevent STD transmission,
but rather latex condoms would be the safer alternative.


THUS,THE CORRECT ANSWER IS;
LAMBSKIN CONDOMS, SHOULD NOT
BE USED TO PREVENT STD TRANSMISSION.

USING LAMBSKIN CONDOMS
IS BAAAD !

[Shining Star]

Bareback Porn:

Condoms have been around in one form or another for almost 2000 years, and bottom line is most men do not like them, and would rather swim nude than with a swimsuit. However the threat of disease and unwanted pregnancy helped at least put some men's tackle into sheaths. Once the pill came along however, and most STD's could be cured by drugs, usage rates went way down. When AIDS came on the scene, and it was clear how it was spread, condoms again came back in style, but then as now, men still don't like them and even within the gay community there has been much backsliding to "unsafe" sex.

Prossing in Europe vs United States:

Europe is an old country, with over 2000 years of history, and as such many areas/cultures have worked out sex and prossing, which as been around ever since one woman found out she could make money for what others were giving away free. The United States OTHO was founded by strait-laced/anal-retentive religious who often said one thing in public, but did different things in private. Hence prossing is a huge crime and those that practice the trade are seen as beneath contempt. That they contract diseases in the course of their work, does not move many to offer assistance, just as they didn't for the many unwanted children which were the natural results of unprotected sex.

The Economics of "Working":

Have often said there are three types of workers: Those that are forced, those that wish to work, and those that have to work.

Leaving aside those that are forced, the persons who want to work often have other means of support to supplement their income and can be a bit more choosy on who they see and setting the rules of play. Those that have to work, are in sort of a bind as they can loose customers if they do not do what the customer wishes. Hence a girl who hasn't had a good day or week, and finally gets a client who demands unsafe sex, will probably have to go along. There used to be a joke in NYC that the best time to see girls was the day before Screw Magazine's ad day, when girls would need money to pay their adverts. Not only would rates come down in some cases, but even the girls who sat high on their horses would often come down and do a deal.

Being as all this may, seeing multiple sexual partners and engaging in unprotected sex weather for pay or free is simply not a good idea. There are trannies, who just like gay men like to sleep around, and again it is not easy telling who has AIDS. That hot papi picked up at the gym, bulging muscles and all can have AIDS, but the drugs are working well enough so you won't notice easily.

Bottom line is when someone is paying for a service, and this includes sex, the provider is at that person's mercy to fulfil their end of the deal. True if one is being flown to Saudi Arabia, the man in question is likely to insist you are "clean", but then again Ali Baba has paid you several thousands, and you better do what he says or find yourself in a very tight spot.

AIDS like most other diseases breeds and grows in secrecy and ignorance. Speaking of Saudi Arabia, and other Arab countries, there is a growing problem with AIDS, and since homosexual acts are illegal under Koran law, becoming infected is almost an admission of gay sex, so men are not likely to come forward for testing or treatment.

As have often stated, the sad thing about this current trend of promoting "escorting" as a career choice for young trannies is probably going to further increase the high numbers of AIDS in the community. Too many girls are focused on raking in funds, and too few on taking precautions to safe guard their health. Again, many do not have the position of power to insist a date do the right thing. This increases as their near their shelf life, and are no longer the "new girl" in town. In short they have to work harder to make the same or in some cases less money and that can lead to bad decision making.

Some states are moving towards mandatory testing for anyone arrested and or convicted of prossing. Others have made prossing while knowingly infected with AIDS a felony. While the first may have some benefits, the later simply pushes workers further down the path to hell. I mean if someone is HIV+, it is likely they would stop and seek treatment if they could. However services for former sex workers are few, and AIDS budgets are getting tight. Also many AIDS programs are not exactly welcoming of sex workers (don't ask me why), so they are stigmatised yet again.

Finally let us not put the blame all on the girls. It takes two to tango,and someone has to be infected by someone else to get AIDS. All those men out there jumping on trannies trade like a monkey on a cupcake, begging her to "come in my mouth", aren't helping things. Again multiply that activity by the number of girls a date has been with, and you begin to see the dangers. The smart thing would be for guys to admit what they are doing is high risk sex, and get tested often. But we've been down this path before.....

[peggygee]

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[peggygee]

Question:

As a post op, I don't menstruate, I don't have periods,
so no blood. I just got married to the man of my dreams.
My friends say it is okay, if he performs oral sex on me,
and when he inserts his penis in me he doesn't have to
wear a condom, are they correct?


Answer:

She is still at risk for contracting and spreading
any STD, that any other person would be.

The research is still out as to how infectious the
fluids that come from the Cowpers gland can be
in the transmisssion from an HIV+ post op.

The Cowpers gland is found under the prostate
gland, and is responsible for the pre-cum or
clear fluids that you see emitted from the penis.



In a post op women that fluid may provide lubrication
to the neo-vagina. Again, what risk that poses to her
partner is not statistically known.

It is known though, that the receiving partner, is
at a higher risk of infection. And all the other
STD transmission rates remain about the same,
for syphillis, hepatitis, herpes, etc.

Also a post op woman is also at risk for UTIs, urinary
tract infections. Basically, for the most part a post
ops vaginas', flora and fauna is the same as a natal
female.

It smells the same, tastes the same, feels the same, and
is prone to pretty much the same concerns

Oh, and don't forget 'to lick it, before you stick it'


http://www.hungangels.com/board/view...ght=lick+stick

[whatsupwithat]

This thread or something like it should be a "sticky" at the top of HA. Something like this should also be on every porn site or discussion board where sex is a topic.