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12-07-2007 #11Originally Posted by LAGent4ts
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12-08-2007 #12
i point is why was you paying for something you can get for free i never understand that. No disrect to the tg on here but you are dealing with a man who thinks he a woman and you getting upset because that person acted alittle crazy. I find it funny as hell when people make this topic
I'm up here you down there so do what people down there do :P
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12-08-2007 #13Originally Posted by soulRipp
As far as the price of ts escorts, one has to factor in the costs of producing the desired product. One only has to look at the photos on this site to see that it takes a lot of money to produce the best. Time spent perfecting the product, is an addtional consideration. So this in term is factored into the asking prices. Then of course there is marketing expesnes such as professional photos and regular maintenece, and travel expenses.
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12-08-2007 #14
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Originally Posted by soulRipp
As the quote often goes, you are not paying a prossie to stay, but for her (or him) to LEAVE. *LOL*
There are times when a man wants to hit it and be done. He does NOT want endless conversation on subects he does not care about, nor does he want some girl, trannie or guy sizing him up for marriage or LTR potential. Rather he wants to get his freak on before the Knicks game starts, or do something he wouldn't want to be seen doing (like going to a gay/trannie bar for a hook-up).
Walk into any upscale strip club, especially the VIP section and you'll see men, wealthy and goodlooking, some famous getting digits and making plans to hit that stuff for a fee.
The alternative?
Man sees something he likes walking past him on the street. Says to himself or friends "see that sh**t", I'm going to hit that sh**t" , and off he goes to work his rap. Sadly for all mankind, women have the final say as to weather the rap is going to work or not, and often make a man work hard to get at what he wants. So as another poster stated, a guy can spend $$$ on a dinner/movie/club date and STILL not hit, or just spend the same or less and get what he wants, and like Domino's it delivers right to his door.
SS
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12-09-2007 #15
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You know, the venemous near hatred I feel from reading many of the posts by men on this site makes me sad.
Yes there are many low life, drug addicted ghetto whores, ts and gg. And a lot more gay guys with bad wigs posing as TS's because they make money. And even more TV's who may look like girls, but don't take hormones, so they act and react like men, because hormonally that's what they are, even if they have 50 grand invested in silicone.
And remember boys there are whores, and ho's, and there are "escorts." There's a difference, even though the internet has blurred it. But don't confuse the two. One is a refined professional who wants YOU to have a good time, the other just wants your money.
The problem arises when you guys don't do your homework and then get ripped off by some dick in a dress. If you guys will research a girls reviews on TER, if you will see if she had a web domain, and a presence on the web. You will find a much higher success ratio than picking someone up in a bar after 6 drinks, or off a CL.
My suggestion, especially for first timers is COMMUNICATE with your potential date. Tell her what you seek and expect. If she's a short fused bitch on the phone, guess what you are going to get in person. And keep looking until you find someone that seems compatible with your interests.
Now if you are on a $50 budget, don't expect to date a $500 professional. And while you can have a lousy experience for $500 as easily as $50 - you usually won't IF you do a little research and ask some questions. And you can drop $200 on a civilian date and have a lousy time too. So it's all relative.
Not everyone "clicks" with everyone else, every time. To expect that from an escort you are dreaming. Sometimes all you are going to get is to shoot your wad and leave glad you still got your wallet. Other times you are going to get fucked in the abstract and be lucky to leave with your life. That's the risk you take if you date anyone outside of church...
And once in awhile you are going to hook up with a GREAT girl who is going to blow your socks off, maybe even literally... and who's going to light the stars and send you to dreamland with the experience of a lifetime.
I'm considered a good escort - I LIKE what I do, I LOVE making people feel good - that's one reason I got into this business. I have FUN with it. Yes I market the heck out of it, that's also my job. I LOVE my job. I love you guys - the nice ones anyway.
But please let me tell you, for every guy who feels screwed, every girl has been screwed 50 times more. That's one reason so many girls are jaded and just see you as nothing but a dollar sign.
The posts so many of you write make it appear that you see t-girls as nothing but pieces of meat to be used and cast aside, so why should you be surprised when some girls take the same attidude.
Not every girl is a professional with the ability to separate the good guys from the bad dates - they get screwed by one (or 100) guys so they want to screw everyone in return. They lose hope, they have drug habits so nothing matters anyway but cash for the next high, etc.
If you are playing with a ghetto crowd, then you will probably get a ghetto experience. If you date higher end LADIES who offer a refined GFE type relationship, you have a much higher chance of getting what you pay for.
There are many fine, quality TS escorts. Some are on this site, some are on Eros, and TER, but a common denominator almost always is such girls have good reviews, they have web domains, they have good online reps AND THEY CARE ABOUT YOU.
Hugs,
TS Jamie
If anybody has a bad time with a TS, come out here to San Diego and I'll prove to you we aren't all ghetto whores.
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12-09-2007 #16
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Re: TS Escorts; Supply and Demand is out of control!
Originally Posted by peggygee
NO, I respectfully have to say, sorry you are both wrong...
Not every swinging dick can put on a dress and sell themselves as a TS hooker - though many do try. But then how do you explain me? I'm no beauty queen. But I am a "real" TS. And I'm nice, and I'm a fun person to be around - when I'm not being dissed on here... giggle... and I LOVE sex of all types, and I date some great guys.
So maybe for a lot of gentlemen, it's not just about who's a "10" with biggest man tool or fake boobs. There's a lot of hot looking TS and GG girls who are total nasty people, and sex isn't just about conquest for many men. It's about having fun with a nice person who enjoys pleasing them and doing the things they like to do.
As for the market Peggy:
Here is my scientific studied opinon conducted by "DR. Jamie..." over the past two years.
Ours is an expanding market I think driven by several factors.
As TS's become more visible in the mainstream, more men become aware of our existance. A percentage want to "try a TS."
As scientific fact disproves many aspects of traditional religon and more people evolve into the next level of human acceptance the taboo of sex with a TS is reduced, so more men convert.
And finally, TS porn is a major influence on the interent. Even the straightest of men are constantly exposed to it. The human condition is you can only look at something so long without becoming curious. And a percentage of those guys cross the line to real sex with a TS.
So, even though you have more and more TS girls coming out, the demand outstrips the market. Especially when as mentioned on this thread so may are poor quality experiences, those with good reps are as busy as they want to be.
If you do a search on CL for t4m and w4m you will find in most areas a ratio of about 1% TS ads - in San Diego it's about 100-150 TS ads vs around 15,000 GG ads.
So the market has nowhere to go but up.
Which is another reason it's so silly when these girls have whore wars on the internet - there plenty of guys for everyone...
So everyone relax and let's enjoy each other instead of constantly complaining.
Giggle,
TS Jamie
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12-09-2007 #17
Thanks for saying that Jamie, I think it takes resilience to try to stay positive sometimes. Admittedly I have more experience with the straight hobbyist/provider community -review boards-, so I can't really speak to the experiences most guys have with TS escorts other than me, but the same issues were at play in those review boards. In fact they were designed specifically to allow guys to relate which providers succeeded in creating a good experience, how consistently this was the case, and how much it cost.
Nearly every single day some guy would talk about TOFTT, the next day some guy would go see the same bad cl provider and then afterward admit that he should have listened to the previous reviews, and after a couple more bad reviews that provider would lose business and move on to another town. After a year or so many members would build quality relationships with the providers who had consistent reviews, we all got to know each other, hobbyists and providers, had parties etc...I was lucky to be the only TS provider in that community, so I was getting quality hobbyists with experience and I was around other providers who knew what they were doing, and it improved my business.
Now I don't really know how good TS review boards are, I've had little experience with SER (I hate the pop up ads) and TER just isn't that active in Portland, here on HA I've just been depressed, so much that I have no interest in meeting clients here. But the review boards can be whatever you guys make it.
My point in all this is that there are some damn good TS providers out there, they have consistent reviews, they know how to please a man and they are worth every penny. Like Jamie said, all it takes is some homework.
xoxo
Mandy
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mandytgirl/
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12-09-2007 #18
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Re: TS Escorts; Supply and Demand is out of control!
Originally Posted by justatransgirl
That was my point. I agree with the results of your study. I think that because of internet porn, more men than ever are exposed to the eroticism of the TS experience. Therefore the demand for TS escorts exceeds the supply.
I'm sure TS escorts that provide a quality, professional service and a satisfying experience,( like you and Mandy), must have all the business that you can handle.
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12-09-2007 #19
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I think the demand is much higher due to the popularity of TS porn. It's been said many times that TS porn is the fastest growing segment of the industry.
In talking with girls, the number of chasers continues to grow.
I remember on many occasions in my younger days when I could go to a club (very popular clubs) and be the only single guy that openly dated the girls. I've been to shows and pageants and seen girls spread the word that some pieces of trade were in the club and seen the girls go running to be the chosen one.
We also can't leave out the internet's influence. Not only have more men been exposed to just how attractive a TS can be, they have been able to hide behind a screen and develop more in-depth desires and connections.
Girls would be dumb not to use a higher demand, a high popularity in their favor. That just smart business. If more women were willing to pay for dick more men would make their living selling it.
The ratio of guys to girls has really changed.