My thoughts on AVN / TS Awards

[hondarobot]

Where does it say a performer has to have a body of work? Like any other awards (Acadamy, Emmy, Grammy, Brits, etc) it's usually based on one performance in which they shine.
Just because you take cum in your ass (AIM'd or not, your still tossing a coin onto what you could catch and I don't see how that pushes the genre forward?) or break in a girl, doesn't make you the best performer the same as those "two girls one cup" shouldn't be nominated for best performance. If there was a "groundbreaking TS scene" then it should be there.

I do agree that the lists, as usual are a bit fucked up and I was going to mention Buck but I took a cursory look at his website and I thought some of his DVD's came out in 2007. If they didn't, then he should not have been nominated. I also agree that people shouldn't be able to nominate themselves with the current set up of production companies working to get their stars promoted, it's hardly surprising.

The nominations I put in, were for models that we'd worked with whom I thought give excellent performances in a specific production. Newcomers or not, it's regardless.' I had probably 30+ I could have nominated this year but it wasn't hard to choose the few we did nominate.

Until a proper fan based awards comes into play, you can whine about it as much as you want - in the same way I whine year after year that the AVN's are all about the advertising dollar - that's how it is.

seanchai

It's pretty clear that the TS catagory will remain in the basement with other "fetish" catagories as far as AVN is concerned. As you say, someone should organize a seperate awards system.

Actually, that was your idea awhile ago. Let's do it. Why not?

[GroobySteven]

SO Seanchai then who nominated me, Gia, or Joanna if we dont work for another company and put releases out only through our company? Are we just shit out of luck because we are performers who own our own production company??

It really doesnt matter I guess no matter who wins, is nominated or suggested there will be some type of controversy.

Wendy

I've no idea who nominated you? I only know who I nominated.
If you (or Gia or Joanna) truly believed you were the best performers in your productions that year and that you deserved to win an AVN award, then I'd have no issue under the current way it seems to be ran, for you nominating yourself.
This is why it needs a more independant body. There should be a cap on the amount of nominees a year also - no more than 5 in any one category.

[Ratbutt]

Something about the phrase "stretched the boundaries of porn" really got me into this thread.

Anyway, we just want to see you girls having fun, being safe & getting paid. Keep it moving!

[puddinfoot]

I think Jennifer Paris could push the industry forward if she went public with her dick!

[tsntx]

a nomination doesnt equal a win... so why the confussion or bitching about how someone gets nominated? if they win from that nomination obviously the people w/ power felt the nomination was accurate, right? so stfu.

[YasminLee]

I AGREE WITH VICKI, I'LL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO GIVE DANIELLE MY SPOT. SHE'S AN AMAZING PERFORMER ABOVE ANYONE ON THAT LIST. I'M VERY HONORED TO BE NOMINATED BUT CAN'T BATHE MYSELF IN ITS GLORY BECAUSE I QUESTION THE LEGITIMACY OF THE FAIRNESS OF THAT LIST.
AND AS FOR BUCK, I DON'T FEEL THAT'S IT'S FAIR HE'S COMPETING AGAINST THE GIRLS. MAYBE AN AWARD OF RECOGNITION ON ITS OWN OR SOMETHING. THERE'S NO FAIR WAY TO COMPARE HIS WORK AND OURS. HIS VIDEOS AND UNIQUENESS IS A WHOLE DIFFERENT MARKET

[Vicki Richter]

Where does it say a performer has to have a body of work? Like any other awards (Acadamy, Emmy, Grammy, Brits, etc) it's usually based on one performance in which they shine.
Just because you take cum in your ass (AIM'd or not, your still tossing a coin onto what you could catch and I don't see how that pushes the genre forward?) or break in a girl, doesn't make you the best performer the same as those "two girls one cup" shouldn't be nominated for best performance. If there was a "groundbreaking TS scene" then it should be there.

seanchai

I am coming out of my lengthy posting retirement to respond to you Seanchai. It is 100% about a body of work versus and not an individual scene for the Performer of the Year award. At AVN, they have individual scene awards for "best sex scene" "most outrageous sex scene" "best anal scene", "best oral sex scene", "best group scene" etc etc

http://www.avnawards.com/index.php?content=nominees

The performer of the year is absolutely about the accomplishments of a performer over the span of the year. It is not a solitary sex scene award. They have those.

Your comments about the bareback scenes are fair. However, it wasn't so long ago that TS could only work with condoms like a lot of gay enterprise. Now we are working with popular GG performers on equal footing with other male and female performers... not like a third class. If we were confined to working with condoms whenever we worked with these people, while they openly worked bareback with fellow performers in the "straight" world, what does that say about TS? To me is says, "disease ridden 2nd class filth". So yes, it does push the genre forward. Of course it doesn't make someone the best just because they do this, but I think you would be hard pressed to convince anyone that the fans don't want to see it... or prefer to see it. What is a performer's job if not to please the fans? Safety is important, but I put full trust in an AIM test - which has proven equally reliable to condoms (percentage-wise, per sex act) in preventing the spread of HIV.

[Vicki Richter]

a nomination doesnt equal a win... so why the confussion or bitching about how someone gets nominated? if they win from that nomination obviously the people w/ power felt the nomination was accurate, right? so stfu.

You're like Grumpy the dwarf and you are usually wrong. If suddenly all these B actors started being nominated for the Academy Award - like Mark Walhberg's brother for example, it would deteriorate the value of the award. It's like - and the nominees are Brad Pitt, Samuel L Jackson, Al Pacino, and Donny Wahlberg for his performance in "Where is my trash can". If you do that over and over again, people are going to look at it like a big joke and it wouldn't be that big of a deal to win one anymore. In some cases the equivolent in our genre isn't even a B actor like Wahlberg. It's like some random girl in Texas Chain Saw Massacre #3 getting a nomination for the Academy Award.

[hondarobot]

"Where is my trash can" is actually a pretty good title for a movie.

[GroobySteven]

The performer of the year is absolutely about the accomplishments of a performer over the span of the year. It is not a solitary sex scene award. They have those.

Your comments about the bareback scenes are fair. However, it wasn't so long ago that TS could only work with condoms like a lot of gay enterprise. Now we are working with popular GG performers on equal footing with other male and female performers... not like a third class.

Thanks for coming out of retirement Vicki, glad to see I have some influence over you

I've never read anywhere that the Best Performer is for a body of work (or that it's for a single scene) and would love to see the clarification of this although I doubt AVN would publish this, as it would affect their otherwise, biased judgement.

It's a fair point on the condom scenes - I'm actually for the opposite, I still think most porn should be condomed. It might not be exactly what the fans want but if they weren't given the choice, then they wouldn't think that it was acceptive and normal to have risky sex without a condom.
I don't have the facts but I can't believe an AIM test is as safe as condoms. All it takes is that performer to have sex with an infected individual after the test but before the performance.
seanchai