MONEY FOR TIME AND COMPANIONSHIP ISNT ILLEGAL IS THIS TRUE?

[ANIYAH]

HI THERE HUNG ANGELS FORUMS .I HAVE NEVER PASOT HERE BUT THOUGH THIS WOULD BE A GOOD PLACE TO ASK THIS QUESTION AND GET A GOOD ANSWER . ON EROS GUIDE I WOULD SAY ABOUT 80% OF THE GIRLS HAVE THIS :Money exchanged for legal, adult personal services (escort) are for time and companionship only. Anything else that may transpire is a matter of personal choice and preference between two or more consenting adults of legal age, and is not contracted for, requested to be contracted for, or compensated for, in any manner. This is not an offer for prostitution!
NOW IS THIS COMMENT TRUE BECAUSE I HAE RECENTLY HERD OF GIRLS GETTING ARRESTED FROM EROS GUIDE AND THE VILLAGE VOICE .MY TAKE ON THINGS IS THAT PERHAPS THESE GIRLS ARE GETTING TO EXPLICIT ON ON THE PHONE BECAUSE I HAVE DONE ALL AND NEVER HAD ANY LEGAL PROBLEMS ?BUT MAYBE THIS IS BECAUSE I EXPLAIN TO GENTLEMEN THAT I DONT GET EXPLICIT ON THE PHONE AND MY DONATION IS NOT FOR SEXUAL ACTS ITS FOR TIME ; IS THIS WHAT HAS BEEN PROTECTING ME FROM GETTING ARRESTED? AND IS THAT DISCLAIMER TRUE ....EVEN IF YOU DONT HAVE AND ESCORT LICENSE?
AND ALSO HOW DO YOU OBTAIN AND ESCORT LICENSE?

[Ecstatic]

It's an attempt to dodge a bullet, but it won't hold up in court if there's sufficient evidence to the contrary. It is wise to post such a disclaimer as an indication of what paid service one as an escort is providing, but it's not enough on its own to disprove prostitution charges.

There are ways to avoid, or at least minimize, getting busted, as entrapment is itself illegal, but I'm no authority on the subject. These include the two- and three-call system, not giving out your hotel room number until your client has called from the hotel, directly asking a client if he is a law enforcement agent, referring only to a "donation" rather than "payment," never accepting an envelope supposedly full of money (let alone loose cash) directly from a client but having him simply place it casually on a nightstand, and, as you say, avoiding explicit conversations on the phone (under the guise of such things being impolite). Perhaps there's a legal eagle on the forum who can address the details of the law? (Noting, of course, that the legal details vary from jurisdiction to jurisdiction; for example, afaik brothels are legal in Nevada, but not in the city limits of Las Vegas.

As for how to obtain an escort license, I think you'd need to move to Amsterdam, or at least Nevada.

[thanos]

HI THERE HUNG ANGELS FORUMS .I HAVE NEVER PASOT HERE BUT THOUGH THIS WOULD BE A GOOD PLACE TO ASK THIS QUESTION AND GET A GOOD ANSWER . ON EROS GUIDE I WOULD SAY ABOUT 80% OF THE GIRLS HAVE THIS :Money exchanged for legal, adult personal services (escort) are for time and companionship only. Anything else that may transpire is a matter of personal choice and preference between two or more consenting adults of legal age, and is not contracted for, requested to be contracted for, or compensated for, in any manner. This is not an offer for prostitution!
NOW IS THIS COMMENT TRUE BECAUSE I HAE RECENTLY HERD OF GIRLS GETTING ARRESTED FROM EROS GUIDE AND THE VILLAGE VOICE .MY TAKE ON THINGS IS THAT PERHAPS THESE GIRLS ARE GETTING TO EXPLICIT ON ON THE PHONE BECAUSE I HAVE DONE ALL AND NEVER HAD ANY LEGAL PROBLEMS ?BUT MAYBE THIS IS BECAUSE I EXPLAIN TO GENTLEMEN THAT I DONT GET EXPLICIT ON THE PHONE AND MY DONATION IS NOT FOR SEXUAL ACTS ITS FOR TIME ; IS THIS WHAT HAS BEEN PROTECTING ME FROM GETTING ARRESTED? AND IS THAT DISCLAIMER TRUE ....EVEN IF YOU DONT HAVE AND ESCORT LICENSE?
AND ALSO HOW DO YOU OBTAIN AND ESCORT LICENSE?

There is no such thing as an escort license. I'm pretty sure that disclaimer would not stand up in court, especially if the cop gets you to to be explicit about a sex act. I too have heard stories about girls getting busted by cops while running ads.

[ANIYAH]

WELL I HAVE READ GIRLS ADS ON EROS THAT STATE THEY ARE LICENSED ESCORT ?? ARE THEY LYING ????

[Felicia Katt]

http://www.bigeye.com/sexeducation/a...osangeles.html

In LA city and county, it is illegal to be an unlicensed escort. You can only be licensed if you work for a registered escort agency. And escorting is defined by the statute as providing time and companionship for money. Several girls here have been busted for escorting when they could not be charged with prostitution.

Felicia

[NYCe]

LOL, Eros will let you put anything in your ad. There's no escort license in the united states. Unless they're working nevada or LA (like Estatic stated above).

The best advice I can give you comes from Norma Jean Almodovar, Executive Director, COYOTE LA/SC:

Here are the top ten instant alert signals that you should be listening for in any conversations you have with a new client. Paying attention to them may spare you from getting busted!

1. He asks you to bring him some drugs. Often cops will try to get an added drug charge against you in order to "cinch" an arrest and be able to manipulate you better. DO NOT AGREE TO BRING HIM ANYTHING STRONGER THAN BREATH MINTS! IF YOU WORK FOR SOMEONE ELSE, BE SURE THAT THEY NEVER ASK YOU TO TAKE DRUGS TO A CLIENT OR ANYONE ELSE.

2. He asks, "So how long have you been doing this?" PLAY DUMB, ASK HIM, "WHY, WHATEVER DO YOU MEAN?"

3. You hear the smoke alarm go off in the other room (if you are visiting him either at 'home' or in a hotel) It is most likely a bunch of horny cops in the other room smoking as they watch you get undressed on the video monitor. If you do get arrested, insist on getting paid for the strip show.

4. He promises to order drinks but then his pager goes off He is not supposed to drink on duty - although he may. If he doesn't have any beverages to offer you, he has no class anyway. Make him order lots of room service before you ever discuss business! Order the most expensive bottle of champagne, then, wait until it arrives and uncork it. At least get a good meal on the taxpayers before you go to jail and have to eat peanut butter sandwiches!

5. He says, "why don't you hum and clap and do a little dance for me?" Clapping is usually the signal for the other cops to come in and make their arrest. You are not required to be the instrument of your own undoing. If he starts clapping, grab your purse and run!

6. He asks you to get undressed but he won't. If you are being videotaped, he will not undress for you so if he acts shy but he wants to see you get naked, refuse to unless he does first. Don't even touch him until he is completely naked. Ask him to grab himself, do a little dance and hum for you- that will amuse the jury when the tape is played in court if he is a cop. [In some states, the police are allowed to have sex with you first and then arrest you. So, this sign might not work. Also, the police can use a real client as a witness against you - someone who is paid by the government to have sex with you and then testify in court against you ... to protect you from exploitation, you understand!)

7. He counts out the money aloud as he pays you. If he has so little class that he would count out the money rather than just discreetly hand it to you, then something is terribly wrong. It is probably being video taped. Act shocked that he is paying you. Tell him you don't know nuthin' about no stinkin' money. Insist that he stop or you will have to leave because you are not that kind of girl. DON'T EVER TALK ABOUT SEX AND MONEY.

8. He insists upon being explicit about a sex act. . . "do you do it from behind?" or, "I'd like an American specialty.. . " If he is a cop, he wants to get you to agree to a sex act - either straight sex, oral sex or anal sex. He is not supposed to say what he is looking for but must try to get you to say it. Play dumb and ask him, "Why, whatever do you mean?" Of course, with legalized entrapment, he can always revert to suggesting the sex act himself and get you to agree to it. Still, DON'T EVER TALK ABOUT SEX AND MONEY.

9. He asks, "what do I get for my money?" Play dumb as above and ask him what ever does he mean. DON'T EVER TALK ABOUT SEX AND MONEY

10. A stranger calls and tells you that his buddy Joe (whom you don't know) says you are lots of fun and he wants to have some fun, too. Check it out. Tell him to have your mutual friend call you to confirm this. If he says his friend is out of town, tell him you are out of town too, forever. If your mutual friend does call, ask questions about his referral. Ask what his friend does for a living and where he works. Call information and see if such a business is listed. Call the business and ask for him by name. Even though your client could be setting you up, the odds are that the police won't go to all the trouble to set up a dummy company listed in the phone directory.

[ANIYAH]

SO BASICALLY DONT TALK ABOUT SEX AND MONEY ON THE PHONE? I USUALLY ALSO MAKE A CLIENT PEEL BUTT NAKED BEFORE HE GIVES ME ANY DONATION THAT MAKES ME FEEL SAFE AS WELL.

[Ecstatic]

Two quick additional notes:

1) There are licenses for escorts in some cities, but not "escorts" as prostitutes; these are strictly, as Felicia says, registered agencies that provide presumably sophisticated companionship for gentlemen on the town (men who need a date for a special occasion, dinner, formal, who will present herself with the appropriate air and manner of a lady in that environment). Of course, the terms escort quickly seques into a euphemism for prostitution, but as NYCe points out, there are no such licenses in the US (outside of Nevada).

2) Regarding NYCe's comments about the undercover cop getting undressed first: this is one of the main reasons behind one of the first things an escorts says to a client in his or her hotel room: "why don't you get comfortable?" meaning get undressed and ready for sex. By doing so, the man becomes a participant and not an observer (plus, as to the other reasons, the escort is moving the session along so that she can get through it quickly or at least in the alloted time).

[Ecstatic]

I would say yes, Aniyah, at least until you really know the client as a regular (and even then). Simply say that "I'm a lady and I don't like to talk about such things on the phone." Even girls that I've known a long time still, perhaps out of habit (but a good habit so I don't mind) refrain from giving out their hotel room number until I've arrived in the lobby. Good, sensible precautions which help us all.

[ANIYAH]

SO ESTATIC YOU THINK MAKNG THEM GETT UNDRESSED FIRST IS A GOOD THING ?