Illegal Immigrants and drivers licenses

[q1a2z3]

All that crap about being different is what the ACLU and other communist groups are using to balkanize America.


Motive for a crime is irrelevant. Premeditation is all we have to know to increase the punishment. "hate speech" and "hate crimes" only exist to try to stop free speech.

[NewYorker]

All that crap about being different is what the ACLU and other communist groups are using to balkanize America.


Motive for a crime is irrelevant. Premeditation is all we have to know to increase the punishment. "hate speech" and "hate crimes" only exist to try to stop free speech.

Motive for crime is irrelevant? Are you serious? So there's no difference between someone who shoots an attacker in self-defense and mugger who shoots a person for not having enough money? Neither one is premeditated but certainly call for different levels of punishment.

"Hate speech" doesn't stop free speech, otherwise all those white supremacy groups wouldn't be able to publish their pamphlets. And how exactly does hate crimes stop free speech? Unless you consider a racially motivated crime free speech?

[Rogers]

There is no such thing as "hate crime."
There is no such thing as "hate speech".

Whoa asshole, you're going to make enemies pretty fast with talk like that here, but then that's probably your aim.

FUCK OFF, TROLL!!!

[trish]

we should listen when q1a2z3 pronounces,

Giving a convicted criminal and extra hard sentence because his victim was of a different race OR WHATEVER...

...wrongly elevates the victim to the status of being "MORE EQUAL"

sounds like this dude knows what he's talking about...and stuff...ya, know...whatever.

[guyone]

If only you bolsheviks would realize that the government has finally criminalized thought. Complaining that your rights are being subverted because of extra security checks at airports yet you don't mind them legislating the way must you think.

Does it really matter or make a difference for what reason a maniac wraps a chain around an innocent mans neck then drags him for miles from his pick up trucks bumper until his head comes off? There is absolutely no circumstance in this country where this is an acceptable practice. This is classified under our current laws as abhorrent behavior.

[trish]

bolsheviks

Gesundheit!

[Rogers]

If only you bolsheviks would realize that the government has finally criminalized thought. Complaining that your rights are being subverted because of extra security checks at airports yet you don't mind them legislating the way must you think.

Does it really matter or make a difference for what reason a maniac wraps a chain around an innocent mans neck then drags him for miles from his pick up trucks bumper until his head comes off? There is absolutely no circumstance in this country where this is an acceptable practice. This is classified under our current laws as abhorrent behavior.

If only you fascists would realize that the government has not criminalized thought. Please cite evidence of your assertion, guyone. You can think any bloody thing you like, but there have always been restrictions on what you can say. For example, you can't go around calling people pedophiles without good evidence, otherwise it's libel. Why should hateful accusations about a persons race, religion or sexuality be any more acceptable, guyone?

You can also hate who or whatever you like, but should you voice your thoughts in a manner that they might incite violence, then it is and should be a crime. Hate crime is even worse. The Holocaust is the best example of hate speech and crimes getting out of hand. Transsexuals and homosexuals were amongst those persecuted. Was the holocaust horrific to you, guyone? If so, was it just the numbers who were murdered, gassed and burned, or was the way that certain groups were targeted also horrific?

Please don't dodge the questions I've underlined, guyone, as I'm really interested in what you have to say.

Thought is a mental process. Speech and crimes are actions. In society, adults are held accountable for their actions and not their thoughts.

[q1a2z3]

PEDRO, GO HOME!!!
Back across the border where you belong.
Lead a revolution to free your country from the idiots who currently rule it. Set up a republic that is democratic. Teach the dullards in your society that when you have a non-discrimination law about national origin IT ONLY APPLIES TO CITIZENS OF YOUR COUNTRY AND NOT SOMEONE WHO SNEAKS INTO YOUR COUNTRY.

Teach your children that hate is not a bad thing. Hating cancer is perfectly OK. Teach them that hating what the left trys to do everyday is just like having cancer and hating them is OK. Teach them that when you love or hate something or someone it is AN OPINION and not a crime. Teach them that multiculturalism and perversity are the enemy. Teach them that nationalism is a good thing because the left will never love your country.

[trish]

Pedro for President!

[trish]

A hate crime is an assault against an individual and the group to which the individual belongs. When some maniac who tortures and murders women is on the loose, women are afraid. They think twice before going out. They consider the time of day, what route to take, whether a drink or a bite to eat with friends is worth the risk. Are the movements of men curtailed in any way? Fuck no. Hate crimes have multiple victims. They physically harm the victim and they obstruct and oppress the freedom of the hated group. Hate crimes are terrorism, pure and simple. Of course I wouldn’t expect a self-satisfied, little white-bread boy to comprehend what to him can only ever be an abstraction. I don’t want laws to tell people how to think, but I do want terrorists behind bars. Evidently, guyone is only against Islamic terrorists.