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    The majority of what we refer to as illegal immigrants, did not break into the country (though certainly many people do) rather they entered on legal work visas and failed to properly renew their green card, or were denied a new visa or something like that.

    As for breaking the laws, I do it all the time, maybe I should be punished not rewarded.

    I speed, I use illicit drugs, I have whored, gambled, trespassed you name it.....



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    Quote Originally Posted by tsmandy
    The majority of what we refer to as illegal immigrants, did not break into the country (though certainly many people do) rather they entered on legal work visas and failed to properly renew their green card, or were denied a new visa or something like that.

    As for breaking the laws, I do it all the time, maybe I should be punished not rewarded.

    I speed, I use illicit drugs, I have whored, gambled, trespassed you name it.....
    I assume you are doing those things in the country that you are a citizen. And that the government is not rewarding you for doing them. Maybe we should have the same harsh punishment that Mexico has for its illegal immigrants . http://www.sbsun.com/ci_3767570


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    Looks like the Governor has changed his mind on this issue.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr_Choc69
    Looks like the Governor has changed his mind on this issue.
    That's what happens when a governor tries to push his own agenda against the overwhelming majority of his constituents, and they fight back. I don't envy Spitzer's chances of getting reelected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quinn
    Quote Originally Posted by Mr_Choc69
    Looks like the Governor has changed his mind on this issue.
    That's what happens when a governor tries to push his own agenda against the overwhelming majority of his constituents, and they fight back. I don't envy Spitzer's chances of getting reelected.

    -Quinn
    Its only a couple of months into his first term. By the time he's up for re-election no one will even remember this.



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    Quote Originally Posted by NewYorker
    Quote Originally Posted by Quinn
    Quote Originally Posted by Mr_Choc69
    Looks like the Governor has changed his mind on this issue.
    That's what happens when a governor tries to push his own agenda against the overwhelming majority of his constituents, and they fight back. I don't envy Spitzer's chances of getting reelected.

    -Quinn
    Its only a couple of months into his first term. By the time he's up for re-election no one will even remember this.
    Until they're inundated with campaign adds mentioning this event, at which time their memory will be refreshed.

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    They will remember. The first time an illegal gets caught drunk driving or charged with vehicular manslaughter his opposition will have ammo.



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    I should have phrased that better, in four years from now when he's up for re-election no one will even care about this issue. It will be dead and buried and there will be a ton of other more recent ones that people is care far more about. This is not a make or break issue for his governship and the fact that he dropped it will make it even less important when he runs for re-election.



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    There is no such thing as "hate crime."
    There is no such thing as "hate speech."

    If you want to live out your 1984 wet dream please deport yourself to europe where they believe in such nonsense.

    Giving a convicted criminal and extra hard sentence because his victim was of a different race or whatever wrongly elevates the victim to the status of being "more equal" than the attacker.



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    Quote Originally Posted by q1a2z3
    There is no such thing as "hate crime."
    There is no such thing as "hate speech."

    If you want to live out your 1984 wet dream please deport yourself to europe where they believe in such nonsense.

    Giving a convicted criminal and extra hard sentence because his victim was of a different race or whatever wrongly elevates the victim to the status of being "more equal" than the attacker.
    A hate crime isn't when someone's victim is another race. It when the crime is specifically motivated by the victim's difference. Such crimes involve a greater amount of thought and choice, which under our law calls for greater punishment. It's the same thing as the difference between manslaughter and murder charges.

    And ironically, the current US resembles 1984 Oceania more than any nation in Europe, even England with it's thousands of cameras.



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