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    Quote Originally Posted by seanchai
    Come on, don't be assholes and ask for material to be posted for free. A few photos is one thing but a whole video?

    I'll ask you to respect our copyright which enables us to get the budget for new content and generally to keep the business running which provides a lot of photographers and models with extra income.
    We're one of the few companies shooting new material in the US and to post material for free is detrimental to the whole business.

    We are actively going after websites/people who break out copyright so please refrain from doing this. One or two images is one thing but a whole video is just abusive. You are also endangering HungAngels which can be sued if they hosted stolen material which you uploaded by the infringed company, if they wanted.

    I let a lot of our companies material be posted here. It works as teasers for some and free porn for others but if I feel it's being over abused, we'll have no choice but to stop any users uploading our material at all.

    Come on, be fair.

    seanchai
    In all honesty Seanchai I'm not sure how you are affiliated with Grooby but I must say you have been very lenient with media being posted here (both pictorial and videos). Sometimes I wonder how much is too much- 30 plus pages of I like them Flat and Best Asses Ever is questionable and I must say, out of everyone I know running the smut industry like it was a legit corperation, you're quite the swell guy. You must be foreign.


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    Yea Seanchai's a bit of a legend.....u know how to please the nation!



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    Quote Originally Posted by flabbybody
    If you take a Grooby clip and post it on a free site, who pays the models, photographers and webmasters? What incentive would a paying customer have in joining the site?
    Well i'm sure uploading that clip for free really hurt the million dollar grooby empire. How many members does grooby have? The girls have already been paid for the shoot. Uploading a couple of free clips would actually give people incentive to join Grooby sites. I know this to be true after downloading Torrent clips, i joined over 15 sites this year alone just to see more. Out of respect for seanchai i NEVER uploaded ANY of the NEWER clips on his site, only the older stuff. Videos edited down to 1 to 3 mins. NOT WHOLE SCENES! The whole scene clips i uploaded are NOT from grooby.



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    Quote Originally Posted by fitz207
    Expand my ego???????? So it would be better for me charge people instead of giving the clip to them?? Which one is worst??? How is hurting you that a few people got to see a couple of OLD videos from your site??

    No matter what you say, i really think you are over-reacting. I only upload on this site and nowhere else. sheeeeeesh, you upload a few clips and some people act like you're giving away military secrets.
    Most of the time I would disagree with everyone but this time I'm in agreement with Seanchai. This argument about your rights to post the clip (which wouldn't even exist if Grooby didn't make it) further retards the point you are trying to make. Sometimes I wonder whether any of you have any idea how stupid you sound when you post your-so called- points of view.


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    Quote Originally Posted by crayons
    Quote Originally Posted by fitz207
    Expand my ego???????? So it would be better for me charge people instead of giving the clip to them?? Which one is worst??? How is hurting you that a few people got to see a couple of OLD videos from your site??

    No matter what you say, i really think you are over-reacting. I only upload on this site and nowhere else. sheeeeeesh, you upload a few clips and some people act like you're giving away military secrets.
    Most of the time I would disagree with everyone but this time I'm in agreement with Seanchai. This argument about your rights to post the clip (which wouldn't even exist if Grooby didn't make it) further retards the point you are trying to make. Sometimes I wonder whether any of you have any idea how stupid you sound when you post your-so called- points of view.
    Yeah, and there would be no seanchai empire if it weren't for long term members like me. 5 year member of shemaleyum 3 year member of franks-tgirls, 4 yrs. at Brazilian-tgirls and on and on.....How are you helping?? How many of his sites have you joined?? You are the one who sounds stupid my friend



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    I don't think I've over-reacting Fitz but I admit I did think you'd uploaded the whole clip. Even so, you did upload the best part of the clip. The models may have already been paid for this clip but I believe we invest a larger amount of our income back into quality reshoots and new models so yes, if you are hurting our income, you are hurting the models, the photographers and the entire industry and not just this "greedy" pornographer.

    It should be our choice on whether we want to release that material as promotional and not yours. We release a load of promo material to the affiliates who try to make sales for us at 50% recurring, so your also taking money out of their pockets (anybody interested in trying to become a reseller of our sites should look at http://www.groobybucks.com

    I take it very personally when people feel it's ok to post the material without asking, we work hard to try and produce a good product which I'm very proud of overall and also is a profitable venture. In this case, not only did my company pay the model but I was also the photographer.

    There is currently an effort going on in the adult industry to combat piracy and posting this sort of material makes it even more difficult for us to track down genuine pirates and not just over-enthusiastic fans.

    All I've every asked on this site is to not abuse our content. Three images of any one models set should be enough to illustrate what you mean. As I stated previously, this will allow those unwilling to pay for websites to get a few free thrills and not over compromise our integrity. No video clips please - use screen caps if you need.

    Use it and enjoy it but please don't abuse it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seanchai
    I don't think I've over-reacting Fitz but I admit I did think you'd uploaded the whole clip. Even so, you did upload the best part of the clip. The models may have already been paid for this clip but I believe we invest a larger amount of our income back into quality reshoots and new models so yes, if you are hurting our income, you are hurting the models, the photographers and the entire industry and not just this "greedy" pornographer.

    It should be our choice on whether we want to release that material as promotional and not yours. We release a load of promo material to the affiliates who try to make sales for us at 50% recurring, so your also taking money out of their pockets (anybody interested in trying to become a reseller of our sites should look at http://www.groobybucks.com

    I take it very personally when people feel it's ok to post the material without asking, we work hard to try and produce a good product which I'm very proud of overall and also is a profitable venture. In this case, not only did my company pay the model but I was also the photographer.

    There is currently an effort going on in the adult industry to combat piracy and posting this sort of material makes it even more difficult for us to track down genuine pirates and not just over-enthusiastic fans.

    All I've every asked on this site is to not abuse our content. Three images of any one models set should be enough to illustrate what you mean. As I stated previously, this will allow those unwilling to pay for websites to get a few free thrills and not over compromise our integrity. No video clips please - use screen caps if you need.

    Use it and enjoy it but please don't abuse it.

    seanchai
    First i'm not a pirate. I have not received a penny for uploading clips. Second There are torrent sites out there that have entire site rips. But i don't see website owners doing anything about that. No they would rather come after fans who upload a few clips because it's easier than going after real pirates who actually turn profit for their uploads.

    Also what do i get for being a long term member of your sites....a free month, half off my membership?? No, i get pissed on.

    Thanks.



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    Quote Originally Posted by fitz207
    Quote Originally Posted by seanchai
    I don't think I've over-reacting Fitz but I admit I did think you'd uploaded the whole clip. Even so, you did upload the best part of the clip. The models may have already been paid for this clip but I believe we invest a larger amount of our income back into quality reshoots and new models so yes, if you are hurting our income, you are hurting the models, the photographers and the entire industry and not just this "greedy" pornographer.

    It should be our choice on whether we want to release that material as promotional and not yours. We release a load of promo material to the affiliates who try to make sales for us at 50% recurring, so your also taking money out of their pockets (anybody interested in trying to become a reseller of our sites should look at http://www.groobybucks.com

    I take it very personally when people feel it's ok to post the material without asking, we work hard to try and produce a good product which I'm very proud of overall and also is a profitable venture. In this case, not only did my company pay the model but I was also the photographer.

    There is currently an effort going on in the adult industry to combat piracy and posting this sort of material makes it even more difficult for us to track down genuine pirates and not just over-enthusiastic fans.

    All I've every asked on this site is to not abuse our content. Three images of any one models set should be enough to illustrate what you mean. As I stated previously, this will allow those unwilling to pay for websites to get a few free thrills and not over compromise our integrity. No video clips please - use screen caps if you need.

    Use it and enjoy it but please don't abuse it.

    seanchai
    First i'm not a pirate. I have not received a penny for uploading clips. Second There are torrent sites out there that have entire site rips. But i don't see website owners doing anything about that. No they would rather come after fans who upload a few clips because it's easier than going after real pirates who actually turn profit for their uploads.

    Also what do i get for being a long term member of your sites....a free month, half off my membership?? No, i get pissed on.

    Thanks.
    Pissed on? How exactly have you been pissed on? I never said you were a pirate, I thought I made that perfectly clear here :
    "even more difficult for us to track down genuine pirates and not just over-enthusiastic fans."

    What do you get for being a longterm member? Well you continue to get the same quality, weekly large updates, discounted rates, increased video sizes & quality, discounted DVD orders, an area to voice your feedback, excellent customer service, a new contact database, photographers seeking out the latest modesl etc, etc that you pay for? Why do you expect half off your membership - I miss your point and reasoning?

    Your paying for access to that content and not for the right to repost our stuff when it suits you.

    I think my point not only makes sense but I'm being very reasonable with it? If you think your entitled to something else, then feel free to email me or put it on the site forum - I don't this is the place for it.

    If I was "coming after" you, I would have sent a legal writ to you. I emailed you a polite & respectfulletter asking for you to refrain from posting this sort of material. I think you need to re-read the emails and posts as it seems like your the one that is over-reacting and being entirely unreasonable?

    seanchai

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    Why do mommy and daddy always have to fight?



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    i always find shit like this irritating. If i pay $50 for a DVD you can bet your ass im going to rip it and back it up. If i pay $29.99 and download some porn, thats my porn, i paid for it. As long as im not making a profit from it im going to do what i want with it.
    Nobody is ruining Grooby's massive pr0n empire by uploading a 2 min fucking clip. TBH i felt bad for Kelly when people uploaded her video for free, that felt wrong to me. Uploading a billionth of teh grooby site content? I call that free advertising, word of mouth. How the hell does Seanchai think we pick what sites we wish to subscribe to? Personally i see what looks good here and then i follow it up.



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