Do T-Girls who don't do porn give us all a bad name ?????

[TsVanessa69]

funny
I find working in the escort and movie business actually harder and more challenging than a so called real job.

[Shining Star]

Think what some people feel is that to a casual observer it seems most if not all trans they meet/see are "working"; and that brings the group down as a whole, especially when fighting for equal rights/non-discrimination.

However the flip side to this argument, and my favourite response is, you tend to find what you are looking for when you look in places where those things are. If you are looking for TS girls in the back of the Village Voice, on CL, Eros.com or other escort sites, or at some of the parties/in the scene; well then yes, you probably may find and come away with the conclusion "all" TS girls are working.

However there are many TS girls who are NOT part of the scene, and go about their lives like the rest of the world. You don't often "find" them because they pretty much live the lives they wish, that is blending in just like everyone else.

OTHO the topic of transgender girls working has been addressed on several fronts, including those active in the community; all of whom point out that if you don't like the idea of girls working, they must be given the same equal chances in society as everyone else.

If one can pass easily, and wrap one's mind into the accepted behaviour for a "GG", then finding and holding employment may be easy; but even then it takes a huge toll mentally (been there and done that). Those same girls, having worked in some cases for years at one place often find themselves fired once their "T" is exposed. Happily today this is changing as more and more companies embrace diversity in the workplace. Companies like Verizon (which left me totally gobsmacked) have quite a few transexuals working for them, and they are who they are. They don't run around in revealing clothing screaming "hey girl!", or what not; they just get on.

Cannot see how working TS girls can bring down an entire class, after all there have been GG skanks and hoes for ages, yet no one is arguing EVERY woman is one.

IMHO the trans community would do much better taking a page from the gay and lesbian book, and work together on a united front. By putting labels on different categories and dividing the group into those deemed worthy versus those who are dammed, will only keep the entire group down. Just my two pence.

[SXFX]

God I wish some one would pay me to have sex with a hot girl. I mean girls the guys on these flicks aren't too ugly are they? Sure they are no Brad Pit...but hay, it's not like theiy are super fuzzy?
Ah what ever each to their own.

[whatsupwithat]

Companies like Verizon (which left me totally gobsmacked) have quite a few transexuals working for them, and they are who they are.

Agree with what you wrote. It's getting to be an everyday occurence.

But, please, for the lay person...gobsmacked?

[Shining Star]

"Gob"

Old English word for mouth, as in "shut your gob".

Gobsmacked, British slang term to mean stunned or flabbergasted; as if smacked in the mouth/standing with one's mouth wide open.

[whatsupwithat]

"Gob"

Old English word for mouth, as in "shut your gob".

Gobsmacked, British slang term to mean stunned or flabbergasted; as if smacked in the mouth/standing with one's mouth wide open.

ahhh.

[SarahG]

I believe you can not do sex work for any serious amount of time and come through it unscathed.

no matter what you do, everything somehow leaves its mark, it's energy on you. you can see it in people on the street. a job, a career kills off parts of your heart and soul without you even knowing.

that was my thought exactly. How many times have you heard of someone, nontrans, working what some people think of as a mainstream job... "taking work home with them" or "having intense work related nightmares" or "filing a stress workers comp claim"

Employment can be quite draining on individuals, hence why- even when people enjoy their job, they get paid for it.

If the variable "strain" on girls in adult entertainment is an argument against that field, then isn't that an argument against any kind of employment by relation?

[Wicked Mira]

. . . However there are many TS girls who are NOT part of the scene, and go about their lives like the rest of the world. You don't often "find" them because they pretty much live the lives they wish, that is blending in just like everyone else.

. . .

If one can pass easily, and wrap one's mind into the accepted behaviour for a "GG", then finding and holding employment may be easy; but even then it takes a huge toll mentally (been there and done that). Those same girls, having worked in some cases for years at one place often find themselves fired once their "T" is exposed. Happily today this is changing as more and more companies embrace diversity in the workplace.

. . .

Cannot see how working TS girls can bring down an entire class, after all there have been GG skanks and hoes for ages, yet no one is arguing EVERY woman is one.

This post is really fabulous and thank you all for your replies! I am so happy to see this kind of reason and intelligence on this site. Thank you, Kirsty, for starting it.

Shining, well said. I couldn't agree more.

In my opinion (here she goes again!), it's all about being oneself in the world and walking whatever path you find yourself on. We all choose who we are and what we do, some just do it more out of desire, some out of necessity. It's the pressure to conform that is the disease, and one of the most insidious things about our society that easily sneaks by us. It's ingrained in us on so many levels.

How about we all just do what our souls and our hearts tell us is right for us and trust that others are doing the same? Frankly, I have all I need to manage my life than to possibly have any energy left to think about someone elses choices. The entire world needs to get laid a whole lot more often and just calm down. It's a service that we in the sex industry are happy to provide.

[slinky]

no matter what you do, everything somehow leaves its mark, it's energy on you. you can see it in people on the street. a job, a career kills off parts of your heart and soul without you even knowing.

Not like sexwork. Yes, every job has it's aggravations, etc. , but there aren't many that leave the mark that sexwork does.

[DJ_Asia]

working in the adult industry in reality,regardless of your gender assignment has its pros and cons.However most people that arent involved in it are very quick to pass judgement and whip out all the cliches and stereotypes before they even know you.

On a casual level I find nothing wrong with working in the adult industry however having a good relationship from within the biz is near impossible.