The term transsexual...why doesn't it apply to me?

[whatsupwithat]

I find it interesting that so many are on this forum and yet so many have nothing to add to this. I would so love to hear from some of the others on this site including the transwomen.

So, it's just Jericho and I that feel the way we do?

[mbf]

well, actually there is no solution for your dilemma. (if it is one) you like what you like (pardon the tautology).

the reason WHY will never be fully understood.

why do I like this or that? I honestly cant say, I just do....

[whatsupwithat]

well, actually there is no solution for your dilemma. (if it is one) you like what you like (pardon the tautology).

the reason WHY will never be fully understood.

why do I like this or that? I honestly cant say, I just do....

Personally, I think it will be understood sooner rather than later. It's all part of the nature vs nurture argument, but neurological science is making incredible strides.

In the meantime, I think my quantifying myself within society and for society to understand it and move beyond it's negative labeling and preconceptions goes hand in hand with the transsexual community gaining rights, respect, and acceptance.

[hondarobot]

well, actually there is no solution for your dilemma. (if it is one) you like what you like (pardon the tautology).

the reason WHY will never be fully understood.

why do I like this or that? I honestly cant say, I just do....

Personally, I think it will be understood sooner rather than later. It's all part of the nature vs nurture argument, but neurological science is making incredible strides.

In the meantime, I think my quantifying myself within society and for society to understand it and move beyond it's negative labeling and preconceptions goes hand in hand with the transsexual community gaining rights, respect, and acceptance.

I think you should slap Vicki Richter next weekend, and tell her to stop being a goofball, and then I'll explain the mysteries of the universe to everyone.

Don't slap her hard, though. I'd have to head east and fuck ya up if you did that.

:P

[mbf]

well, actually there is no solution for your dilemma. (if it is one) you like what you like (pardon the tautology).

the reason WHY will never be fully understood.

why do I like this or that? I honestly cant say, I just do....

Personally, I think it will be understood sooner rather than later. It's all part of the nature vs nurture argument, but neurological science is making incredible strides.

In the meantime, I think my quantifying myself within society and for society to understand it and move beyond it's negative labeling and preconceptions goes hand in hand with the transsexual community gaining rights, respect, and acceptance.

well, maybe yes. but it will look something like those scientific/medical accounts on "what is love", they come up with stuff like higher blood pressure, racing heartbeat, sweaty palms etc. can describe the effects, but wont be able to tell the actual cause.

anyways, may ur search will be a success

[whatsupwithat]

anyways, may ur search will be a success

Thank you.

godspeed!

[peggygee]

If you define transwomen as *women*, then, by default, aren't you defining yourself as heterosexual?

why is there no term for men like me? why is it ignored in the pantheon of sexual literature?

Too far ahead of its time.
They're still too busy codifying what transexuality actually is.


Of course, if yer into pre-ops, there's always...lillbitextrasexual [Oh come on, someone had to!]

Eric, Ecstatic, and now Jericho have really driven home to me the lack of
a positive term to describe men who like transwomen. There are no
support groups per se, and basically they meet on forums like this and
ask each other why do they feel the way they do.

Someone said in another thread that for the transwomen there is a fair
modicum of acceptability particularly if she passes. Also society is starting
to see the medical causes for transsexuality, and that is reducing much of
the stigma. Natal females who are in relationships with transwomen are
deemed lesbians, and there's not a great deall of stigma attached to them.
For a genetic male in a realtionship with a transwoman, thetre may be a
stigma, and as stated there is no term to describe them.

A partial explanation for it may be as Jericho has pointed out that the
subject area of transgenderism is still in it's embryonic or infancy stage.
Thus we don't have the working knowledge of all the aspects of it that we
would like.

But for me there is a very strange consideration to this question. For the
most part the vast majority of men that I have been iin relationships
with have been in relationships with genetic females, some have been
in relationships with transwomen as well.

But post operatively I have met a fair number of men that will only date
transwomen, be they pre or post operative. For me this strikes me as very
odd, and harkens back to what Seanchai said upthread about men who
only date women who have a penis or once had a penis.

I disagree with you. I think it's more demeaning to most transsexuals to know that your purely into transsexuals because let's face it, the only real discernable differences are:
a) either she has a penis or used to have one.
b) when she was born, current norms classed her as male.

In all other aspects other than above, she's a female. So somebody like yourself is purely into her for one of those reasons - and that is demeaning within itself.

I must admit that men who only are interested in women who have a
penis history give me pause for cause. I must admit that I question
whether their affinity is to the woman or to her previous or current
genitilia, ie. the penis.

[hwbs]

i date transsexuals...sorry if i don't have a fancy reason or some scientific answer...i was living this life way before i found this site or knew all of these terms or categories..i don't look for a reason why and i feel i have nothing to prove to anyone on here..if u have a problem with that u can feel free to hit up my box..

[whatsupwithat]

i date transsexuals...sorry if i don't have a fancy reason or some scientific answer...i was living this life way before i found this site or knew all of these terms or categories..i don't look for a reason why and i feel i have nothing to prove to anyone on here..if u have a problem with that u can feel free to hit up my box..

You and I have a lot in common, my man. My problem is sometimes I feel like I have something to prove and I get way caught up in it. I need some ice cream.

[whatsupwithat]

But post operatively I have met a fair number of men that will only date
transwomen, be they pre or post operative. For me this strikes me as very
odd, and harkens back to what Seanchai said upthread about men who
only date women who have a penis or once had a penis.

I must admit that men who only are interested in women who have a
penis history give me pause for cause. I must admit that I question
whether their affinity is to the woman or to her previous or current
genitilia, ie. the penis.

fair point.

but why should that matter? men are attracted to men. women to women. men to women and vice versa. society has grown to understand that being gay or straight has a bio/physiological basis...well, except for the religious wingnuts who think they can 'deprogram' homosexuals. i'm saying that my sexuality and attraction is bio/physiological, as well. this is me.

i have tried to 'deprogram' myself. i went the gay route, the straight route...it never, as jericho said, *felt* right.

i never quite understood why i should be looked down upon for my sexuality by the very people who should be lifting it up.