To the photographers...................................

[JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel]

I think many people have crossed the line judging individuals that do not want their faces plastered on HA. For the record the people I've received IM's or calls from aren't even HA members, they catch wind of their faces on here FROM HA members; with that said I can understand them wanting their faces removed.

No offense but what truly bothers me about some of the responses to this thread is the assumed normality of folks attending a transsexual party. Let's face it, it's not considered normal in this fucked up society we live in. Let's not mistake this bubble of a world we reside in a few hours a day called Hung Angels for the real world we truly live in, where folks get fired, abandoned, forced into retirement, divorced, and/or denied parental visits for the most idiotic things.

Let's not assume that folks that have something to hide are ALWAYS married, or in heterosexual relationships ONLY forgetting the time & effort they might have put into a career, and let's not jump to the conclusion to say they can't play just like anyone else could if they choose to; that would not be fair.

[hillbilly]

yes it's true that i want to be "discreet" about my "down low" activities. that's true whether i am a at strip club or socializing with this subset of culture that traditionally has been pushed to the darkest corners of NYC.

let's face it the people who are criticizing those of us that don't want to be seen in the photographs are those of you who don't work in the mainstream. don't try to tell me that you do. i'm talking working with Fortune 500 companies not some piddly club or social services.

i would think that those of you who have come to live your life out in the open have gone through some struggle to do so and could empathize with those who choose not to.

its so much more than hanging out with transexuals as well. let's face it we are hanging out with PROSTITUTES. show me someone who broadcasts their night to the world when they spent it with prostitutes.

y'all are being so silly you're not so noble because you would allow your photos to be shown. you have your share of dirtly laundry too. we all do.

yeah i'm being shady when i'm out (i miss Mega haha) but i have no regrets about my 20 yrs of being shady. it's just the way it went down.

[whatsupwithat]

I think many people have crossed the line judging individuals that do not want their faces plastered on HA. For the record the people I've received IM's or calls from aren't even HA members, they catch wind of their faces on here FROM HA members; with that said I can understand them wanting their faces removed.

No offense but what truly bothers me about some of the responses to this thread is the assumed normality of folks attending a transsexual party. Let's face it, it's not considered normal in this fucked up society we live in. Let's not mistake this bubble of a world we reside in a few hours a day called Hung Angels for the real world we truly live in, where folks get fired, abandoned, forced into retirement, divorced, and/or denied parental visits for the most idiotic things.

Let's not assume that folks that have something to hide are ALWAYS married, or in heterosexual relationships ONLY forgetting the time & effort they might have put into a career, and let's not jump to the conclusion to say they can't play just like anyone else could if they choose to; that would not be fair.

I decided to post my picture and a link to my myspace page on HA for a very good reason. I have nothing to hide. Am i worried about my career, friends, family? No. Life's too short to spend in hiding, in shame, in fear, in worry of what others might think of me. In the end, I'm wiling to sacrifice anything but myself and who I am. Although, i can totally understand one of the exceptions you posted. When it comes to a child's welfare, I would put that above myself any day.

Change doesn't begin with others, it begins with ourselves. And the trans community needs people to change, needs the support of the men in this community. I guess that's my point.

[SarahG]

i'm talking working with Fortune 500 companies not some piddly club or social services.

I don't deny that this country's attitudes to certain fields and subcultures is a bit messed up.

But; just because someone is working for a fortune500 company doesn't mean they're being given extra scrutiny over their off the job activities.

Keep in mind what companies are in the fortune500, they're not all specialist firms with highly educated/skilled/trained workers. This year walmart is in the top 5, kroger is 26th. Now, I have had a few friends who have been fired from walmarts on the count of their trans status, so I am not saying that being in a fortune500 means its easy to keep your job, I just don't buy that it is all that much more critical as any number of other fields & corporations. Sometimes the smaller companies are even more "strict" in terms of firing & hiring practices.

[peggygee]

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Let's not mistake this bubble of a world we reside in a few hours a day called Hung Angels for the real world we truly live in, where folks get fired, abandoned, forced into retirement, divorced, and/or denied parental visits for the most idiotic things.

You mean like the bubble of a world that tranwomen live in 24/7/365

yes it's true that i want to be "discreet" about my "down low" activities. that's true whether i am a at strip club or socializing with this subset of culture that traditionally has been pushed to the darkest corners of NYC.

let's face it the people who are criticizing those of us that don't want to be seen in the photographs are those of you who don't work in the mainstream. don't try to tell me that you do. i'm talking working with Fortune 500 companies not some piddly club or social services.

i would think that those of you who have come to live your life out in the open have gone through some struggle to do so and could empathize with those who choose not to.

its so much more than hanging out with transexuals as well. let's face it we are hanging out with PROSTITUTES. show me someone who broadcasts their night to the world when they spent it with prostitutes.

y'all are being so silly you're not so noble because you would allow your photos to be shown. you have your share of dirtly laundry too. we all do.

yeah i'm being shady when i'm out (i miss Mega haha) but i have no regrets about my 20 yrs of being shady. it's just the way it went down.

If you do not want to be photographed with a prostitute, don't be out in
public with one. Don't want to be caught drunk driving, don't drive drunk.
Don't want to be arrested for sucking dicks in an airport Senator, don't
suck dicks in an airport bathroom.

In life there are often consequences for your actions.

And while I don't work in social services, though I do volunteer a fair
amount of my time to causes that I believe in, I do not feel that your
comment raising the status of those who work in Fortune 500 and
diminishing those who help their fellow human being is accurate.

Like I said, re-word it, tweak it, put any spin on it that you want, it's still
down low behavior, and I have absolutely no empathy for people who
lead lives of lies, and want others to be their accomplices in those lies.

[mbf]

yes it's true that i want to be "discreet" about my "down low" activities. that's true whether i am a at strip club or socializing with this subset of culture that traditionally has been pushed to the darkest corners of NYC.

let's face it the people who are criticizing those of us that don't want to be seen in the photographs are those of you who don't work in the mainstream. don't try to tell me that you do. i'm talking working with Fortune 500 companies not some piddly club or social services.

i would think that those of you who have come to live your life out in the open have gone through some struggle to do so and could empathize with those who choose not to.

just to avoid misunderstanings: I am not critisizing. anybody can do whatever they want on that matter. I dont care if my pic pop up on a website when I was attending a party or something like that. for others it may be a totally diffeent story

what I cant stand is beeing filmed ten times on my way to the grocerystore just bc everybody became so friggin paranoid since 9 11

[peggygee]

let's face it the people who are criticizing those of us that don't want to be seen in the photographs are those of you who don't work in the mainstream. don't try to tell me that you do. i'm talking working with Fortune 500 companies not some piddly club or social services.

FYI, the vast majority of Fortune 500 companies have policies protecting
gender identity, and sexual orientation. There are many transwomen
working in mainstream America, maybe you don't know many, thus
perhaps you might want to look at other aspects of the transcommunity
than just that ones that you have been creeping around.

[hwbs]

opcorn opcorn opcorn ...this is a good look if u don't want your photo on here

[peggygee]

opcorn opcorn opcorn ...this is a good look if u don't want your photo on here

This is better, and guys make sure you
wear gloves on your hands and on the
little head, wouldn't want to leave any
fingerprints or DNA.

[slinky]

BTW: I think party promoters way underestimate the loss of business due to the photography. An awful lot of guys don't go to parties because they won't even take a chance of going to someplace where they will get photographed. But do you know who will go? "Tranny chasers". That's right, with all the complaints from girls about the chasers, the events get done in a way which makes it the most likely that only "Tranny chasers" will show up, because non-tranny chasers wouldn't get caught on camera. So next time a girl wonders why there are no "regular guys" and only

"Regular guys"?????
"loss of business"???
there are parties where I can't even turn arond, cause its so crowded.Allanah"s parties are Packed!
What...you want to invite a bunch a straight, non tg interested people to stand around and..........what?? talk about the weather. Discuss global politics.
WE are there because WE love the TG form.
WE love the feminine form and shape with the special addition of the cock and balls.
WE love and lust for the girl with a sweet feminine face, soft touchable breast, a nice female figure, and a magnificent bulge between her legs.
IF we wanted plain vinnilla pussy, there are 1000 other, cheaper, less crowded, more private places to go to and try to pick up an ordinary everyday female
But....
WE want the "transgendered" woman
WE are there for the girl with red lips, the tight dress, the long shaply legs, the round ass, the sweet perfume, the erect nipples gently pushing through a silky dress,......and between her legs is that special of erect manhood that makes her soooooo special, so treasured,so wanted ,
by us group of special men, the tranny chasers.

Want to ban the cameras, go ahead.
Want to "protect" people's privacy, ok, so do it.
But that ain't gonna attract "straight " people to come and spend hard earned cash to look and "funny" women!
The only guys who come to this party are those with LOVE in their hearts for the Girls on the stage!

You are clueless and self centered.