Any update on Miriam Rivera?

[Realgirls4me]

It was truly a low point in HA's history. The poor girl had been beaten to within an inch of her life, as asking for support from the community, and some posters started basically insinuating that it was her fault.

So I'm appealing to her friends that if you have any good news about her recovery please post it here and hopefully no one will say anything mean spirited.

That was low. Very low. ...What moron(s) insinuated that?


Nevermind. I'd rather not know.

[Legend]

She probably asked not to be discussed here because some people made baseless accusations that the reason she had been attacked was because of something "shady" she had done.

That doesn't seem logical to me, because it was she and her supportive friends that posted the news about the attacks and updates here. Only when people began throwing around unsupported accusations did she/they ask that the threads be pulled.

It was truly a low point in HA's history. The poor girl had been beaten to within an inch of her life, as asking for support from the community, and some posters started basically insinuating that it was her fault.

So I'm appealing to her friends that if you have any good news about her recovery please post it here and hopefully no one will say anything mean spirited.

The people that were wishing her well and making donations fairly outweighed the people making those kind of accusations,i mean you just don't ask for donations,gifts and suddenly say you don't wanna be discussed anymore,don't the people who helped you deserve to know how your progression is going.

[BrendaQG]

The people that were wishing her well and making donations fairly outweighed the people making those kind of accusations,i mean you just don't ask for donations,gifts and suddenly say you don't wanna be discussed anymore,don't the people who helped you deserve to know how your progression is going.

I would say they don't. It's enough to know that she is recovering. People who are ~24/25 years old can bounce back from things like this.

The whole thing really is a big mystery though. Someone who was once written of in people magazine in the US, and was tabloid fodder for a good while in the UK almost dies. Then not a peep. People say that it would be buried because they say "she had been seeing a client" or had been in porn. I mean those things were true when when she first made the news. I mean what would it take to have a short column of newsprint mentioning that. Then there is the frightening aspect of this. That there is probably someone out there who thinks it's ok to toss someone out of a window and the police don't care. Last but not least all the transgender activist types can do with the story is moan and complain about the premise of that old TV show. That it was "degrading to all transwomen" ( mainly those who are old ugly cannot pass and would never be in that kind of situation in 1 billion years). As if any of that crap has anything to do with the matter at hand.

Yes there are a ton of unanswered questions.

[house]

The people that were wishing her well and making donations fairly outweighed the people making those kind of accusations,i mean you just don't ask for donations,gifts and suddenly say you don't wanna be discussed anymore,don't the people who helped you deserve to know how your progression is going.

I would say they don't. It's enough to know that she is recovering. People who are ~24/25 years old can bounce back from things like this.

The whole thing really is a big mystery though. Someone who was once written of in people magazine in the US, and was tabloid fodder for a good while in the UK almost dies. Then not a peep. People say that it would be buried because they say "she had been seeing a client" or had been in porn. I mean those things were true when when she first made the news. I mean what would it take to have a short column of newsprint mentioning that. Then there is the frightening aspect of this. That there is probably someone out there who thinks it's ok to toss someone out of a window and the police don't care. Last but not least all the transgender activist types can do with the story is moan and complain about the premise of that old TV show. That it was "degrading to all transwomen" ( mainly those who are old ugly cannot pass and would never be in that kind of situation in 1 billion years). As if any of that crap has anything to do with the matter at hand.

Yes there are a ton of unanswered questions.

Who says the POLICE DONT CARE?? Yeah maaaan, the government, they dont caaaare maaaaan. You want some applause for saying something like that? Do you have any idea about what happened or what the detectives in charge have in terms of evidence? Its so easy to say the police don't care. If you care so much, write to a precinct and organize a protest to get something done...wait but YOU DONT CARE enough to do that.

[BrendaQG]

It feels like I am hijacking this thread. Such was not my intent. So be it. What was said demands a public response.

Who says the POLICE DONT CARE?? Yeah maaaan, the government, they dont caaaare maaaaan. You want some applause for saying something like that? Do you have any idea about what happened or what the detectives in charge have in terms of evidence? Its so easy to say the police don't care.

why the hostility?

What we have is what should be treated as a case of attempted murder in which there have been no arrest or prosecutions or real investigation as far as anyone knows. It's not like this happend in the middle of nowhere in Montana either. Their would have been at least one witness, afterall someone called for an ambulance. There would also be some physical evidence of some kind. Given those circumstances it is 100% reasonable to conclude the authorities really don't care, aren't trying, or are just plain incompetent.

If you care so much, write to a precinct and organize a protest to get something done...wait but YOU DONT CARE enough to do that.

I cared, but to her I am virtually a perfect stranger. Nor am I a known activist. For such reasons when I did try to raise this issue with such people. I really rode them on this. Eventually the activist I had the most contact with, as well as others expressed that they feel the very existence and activities of people like Miriam (and incidentally practically every TS who post here). Which implies that they feel that Miriam or anyone remotely like her "undermies their hard work" and so is not worthy of their help (see here). They are full of "reasonalbe' excuses for why a young latino TS is unworthy of the kind of help that susan Stanton got (as opposed to Izza Lopez who was also fired for being TS but unlike stanton would not have savings etc. to fall back on and also is not white). For good measure ,you will note, she saw fit to personally attack me.

I wan't no applause I am just a concerned curious citizen like everyone else who commented in this thread.

[NYTSJulie]

I think it was kinda messed up she was asking for donations then after she got some she asked to threads on her removed.

[Legend]

I think it was kinda messed up she was asking for donations then after she got some she asked to threads on her removed.

That's exactly what i was thinking,her freind nikki was literally begging for help and then all of a sudden just asked for the threads to be remove.

[Tanuki]

Ithink unless you have been a victim like this it would be hard to stand up and tell someone how they should behave.
Furthermore. tabloids dont discuss REAL life issues.. just bubblegum fluff.. A tragic story like this is not going to sell magazines.
haters should turn off there computers and go outside and get some sunshine.

[yodajazz]

I would not call the people who have posted in this thread “haters”. When ever there is a mystery, people will ask questions. As far as the investigation, it is always difficult to know what the police have and are really doing. I think it may have been easy for the perpetrators to leave unnoticed after their crime. This is pure speculation, but when there are professional criminals involved, like ‘mafia types’, people are very reluctant to come forward as witnesses. And of course it would be understandable if Miriam herself was afraid to tell all she knows. It’s a mystery.

I think Brenda is correct about the support from the trans community. A certain trans activist saw to it that information about Miriam was removed from her Wikipedia post after someone tried to update it about her attack. She ended with pics and bio information being removed, rather than added to the article. I thought it was very shady. Wikipedia said that the attack could not be documented, and here we have seen pics of her injuries. From my limited understanding, Miriam’s past and a porn actress and other activities, made her unworthy of public support from some in the community.

No one can judge what another person should do for their recovery, but I agree what has been stated here by others. Despite negativity from a few, there was a great outpouring of support from many people. I among many people said that our prayers were with her, and I did pray. I don’t think that she got a lot of cash donations, however. But she did get some. I think someone from a band said they were writing a song about her. I do not remember when she ask that information be removed, if people were thanked or not for their support or not. Generally, I think that it is important to acknowledge good will and also ignore the ignorance of some people.

[Legend]

I hate that the accident happened but something went on there that none of us has any knowledge of and for her not to come out with somes detail is a little suspect after all people aren't going to support you if you don't tell them anything.I'm just saying you can't fault the public or trans community for not supporting her when they didn't know any of the details.