Results 41 to 50 of 83
-
06-22-2007 #41
If you've got so many problems with religion why don't you just stop going to church?
John Ellis Bush in 2012!
-
06-22-2007 #42Originally Posted by trish
Dawkins himself noted that scientific theories (neo darwinism) can rely on only so much “luck” before they cease to be credible.Now, when will the atheist/darwinists prove a single protein arose unaided.
When people abandon the truth, they don’t believe in nothing, they believe in anything.
-
06-22-2007 #43
- Join Date
- Mar 2006
- Location
- The United Fuckin' States of America
- Posts
- 13,898
At issue here is the very issue YOU brought up several posts back: how can we account, in detail (you wanted details, right?), for the appearance of proteins on Earth. I concede God may or may not have made them, but neither proposal answers the question. Let’s grant that God made them. What did He use? Which protein did He make first? Which building blocks did He make first? Did he construct the building blocks for the first time as He was linking them into the first protein? Did He have to defy entropy or was His procedure in accord with thermodynamics. A proper answer to your question will no doubt provide answers to some of these questions as well.
"...I no longer believe that people's secrets are defined and communicable, or their feelings full-blown and easy to recognize."_Alice Munro, Chaddeleys and Flemings.
"...the order in creation which you see is that which you have put there, like a string in a maze, so that you shall not lose your way". _Judge Holden, Cormac McCarthy's, BLOOD MERIDIAN.
-
06-22-2007 #44Originally Posted by trish
Einstein said that the greatest velocity possible is that of light in free space. Nothing can go faster because, mass increases with velocity. It would take an almost infinite amount of thrust to increase the speed of the almost infinitely massive object, the ship your inside of.At the speed of light, the almost disappears, and we have an infinite mass needing an infinite amount of energy to keep it traveling at the infinite speed of light.
Now scientists beleive all this without ever experiencing any of it. They just accept it never asking why. But, their approach, on behalf of their career, respects their tabus. Where a Christian's universe is described in historic terms or metaphor, a physicist`s universe is made of numbers.The scientists say it is infinite, not comprehensible, or simply not known yet. The religionist or non-secular scientist, says that which is ultimate and not known, should be described by what is known, plus logic.
source;Larry Leonard
When people abandon the truth, they don’t believe in nothing, they believe in anything.
-
06-22-2007 #45
- Join Date
- Mar 2006
- Location
- The United Fuckin' States of America
- Posts
- 13,898
You're the one who asked the technical question and thought its answer would somehow be religiously significant. If you think you're in a better position to answer it, then please do. Which protein did God make first and how did He make it?
"...I no longer believe that people's secrets are defined and communicable, or their feelings full-blown and easy to recognize."_Alice Munro, Chaddeleys and Flemings.
"...the order in creation which you see is that which you have put there, like a string in a maze, so that you shall not lose your way". _Judge Holden, Cormac McCarthy's, BLOOD MERIDIAN.
-
06-22-2007 #46Originally Posted by trish
Now scientists beleive all this without ever experiencing any of it. They just accept it never asking why. But, their approach, on behalf of their career, respects their tabus. Where a Christian's universe is described in historic terms or metaphor, a physicist`s universe is made of numbers.The scientists say it is infinite, not comprehensible, or simply not known yet. The religionist or non-secular scientist, says that which is ultimate and not known, should be described by what is known, plus logic.
You`re the numbers person. When will the atheist/darwinists scientifically prove a single protein arose unaided.
When people abandon the truth, they don’t believe in nothing, they believe in anything.
-
06-22-2007 #47
- Join Date
- Mar 2006
- Location
- The United Fuckin' States of America
- Posts
- 13,898
Never. The assertion that "proteins arose unaided" is not a scientific hypothesis. At least not in that vague form. Care to be more specific about what you mean by "unaided" and what you mean by "prove".
"...I no longer believe that people's secrets are defined and communicable, or their feelings full-blown and easy to recognize."_Alice Munro, Chaddeleys and Flemings.
"...the order in creation which you see is that which you have put there, like a string in a maze, so that you shall not lose your way". _Judge Holden, Cormac McCarthy's, BLOOD MERIDIAN.
-
06-22-2007 #48
- Join Date
- Mar 2006
- Location
- under sail
- Posts
- 1,032
Originally Posted by White_Male_Canada
Alright Then.
-
06-22-2007 #49
- Join Date
- May 2007
- Posts
- 670
Originally Posted by Oli
-
06-23-2007 #50But in the world of physical fact, modern science reigns.
Let`s take a step back to the beginning Trish ol` gal,
how did the first protein invent itself ?
Nice thread hijack asshole.He's playing a flanker, Oliquote
You`re kidding right ? Using purified water/dumping in ampicillin/super heating to 80C/centrifuging/adding reagents/SEEDING/non-conclusive "potentials for sequentional evolution" ! ?
To google, cut and paste the long discredited U.M. experiment CLEARLY and UNEQUIVOCALLY tells us you`re an ignoramous.
When people abandon the truth, they don’t believe in nothing, they believe in anything.