Why is it that brazilian girls all have balls?

[Dkg]

Travesti





However, there's nothing romantic about the life. The travesti rob their clients, inject silicone and take hormones to make their bodies more womanlike, are beaten up, live in postage-stamp-size rooms, can only hold boyfriends by giving them money and gifts, get AIDS, grow old, sometimes become drug-addicted, and rarely have financial security. They steal from each other, fight over boyfriends, and feel unloved.

That's pretty sad. I really feel sorry for them.

[mbf]

bc the brasillian ones are only "TS" for the money/escort/porn scene... when theyve had enough they go back to being men.

hear, hear, the expert on Brazil ts matters is giving a free lecture. based on exactly what? the (in)famous Lisa Lawer-case? or your personal experience, as a white, young, middle class TS born and raised in an OECD country, probably not speaking portugese, never been to brazil not knowing any brazil tgirl personally (note: these are all assumptions, correct me if i am wrong) - is this a fien example of western arrogance or just sloppiness?

the fact that youre a ts yourself isnt a free ticket for posting unbased rubbish

and you dont know more about the brazil or thai ts-scene than the everage guy whio comes here.

i happen to know 4 so you jerk offs can talk all the crap you want... i didnt say ALL... i didnt claim to be the know all and as usual peggy posted a relevant article that only further BACKED what i said up... so keep dreaming you jackasses that have met 1 ts if any at all know what the fuck your talking about... w/ the exception of dj... but that still doesnt mean just bc there is one well known case shes the only.

you can call me jackass and jerkoff ten times i stand by my words and its a fact. you dont know nothing about the brazil ts scene. the article, as i have read it, stated that many travestis or bonecas or whatever name is beeing used start at gay boys. i havent read much about the reverting process there.

i havent said i know anything about ts in brazil or anywhere else. you did and you assume that i did. WRONG. read what i wrote not what you like to read so you can get all aggressive again.

and i guess you assume that i care if they in fact went back beeing a guy? wrong again. i couldnt care less. its their life, they can have four tits, three balls and two pussies.

what i dont like is generalisation and that "oh we in the western world know so much cuz we have tv, the net and live in the information age" attitude.

anyways, this thread has probably taken the right direction via asking or requesting information form people ACTUALLY LIVING THERE.

[calebshung]

Is it a cultural thing? I have noticed that many TS girls from the US, Asia, Mexico, Europe etc., have an Orchidectomy to enhance femininity, hairlessness etc., but the Brazilian girls seem to always have intact balls. Just wondering if anyone had info or opinion on this.

I think a super feminine TS with an "orchy" is a huge turn on. Like the amazing and flawless "Madison".

i did not know that

[peggygee]

Travesti





However, there's nothing romantic about the life. The travesti rob their clients, inject silicone and take hormones to make their bodies more womanlike, are beaten up, live in postage-stamp-size rooms, can only hold boyfriends by giving them money and gifts, get AIDS, grow old, sometimes become drug-addicted, and rarely have financial security. They steal from each other, fight over boyfriends, and feel unloved.

That's pretty sad. I really feel sorry for them.

Equally sad, is that many times the same set of events
occurs domestically as well.

[peggygee]

That's interesting Peggy. The whole idea of a "third sex" ties up with discussion we had on the berdache and the kathoeys and ladyboys of Thailand and the PI.

By the way, I don't think one can generalise on TVs as being "hetero male crossdressers". I would think there is a difference (fine as it may be) between TV and CD and would also suggest that TVs do not necessarily bat for one team or the other (indeed, some are bisexual, are they not?).

Transvestite is the medical / psychological term.
Cross dresser is the term used by the layperson.

While there are no hard and fast rules for the the sex object
choice of the transvestite, they tend to be statistically
heterosexual.

Again I defer to Benjamin;

Type Two: Transvestism (Fetishistic)
Gender Feeling: Masculine
Dressing Habits and Social Life: Lives as a man. Dressing periodically or
part of the time. Dresses underneath male clothes.
Sex Object Choice and Sex Life: Heterosexual. Rarely bisexual.
Masturbation with fetish. Guilt feelings. Purges and relapses.
Kinsey Scale: 0-2
Conversion Operation: Rejected
Estrogen Medication: Rarely interested. Occasionally useful to reduce
libido. Psychotherapy: May be successful (in a favorable environment.)
Remarks: May imitate double (masculine and feminine) personality with
male and female names.

Type Three: Transvestism (True)
Gender Feeling: Masculine (but with less conviction.)
Dressing Habits and Social Life: Dresses constantly or as often as
possible. May live and be accepted as woman. May dress underneath
male clothes, if no other chance.
Sex Object Choice and Sex Life: Heterosexual, except when dressed.
Dressing gives sexual satisfaction with relief of gender discomfort. May
purge and relapse.
Kinsey Scale: 0-2
Conversion Operation: Actually rejected, but idea can be attractive.
Estrogen Medication: Attractive as an experiment. Can be helpful
emotionally Psychotherapy: If attempted is usually not successful as
to cure.
Remarks: May assume double personality. Trend toward transsexualism.

[peggygee]

That's interesting Peggy. The whole idea of a "third sex" ties up with discussion we had on the berdache and the kathoeys and ladyboys of Thailand and the PI.

A side note;

In Pornography the term 'Shemale' (along with tranny, ladyboy
and "chick with a dick") is commonly, used in pornography and the sex
industry; videos and magazines involving such people are a common sub-
genre of pornography. It is often seen by transsexual people as a
powerful term of abuse.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Lwollert/Shemale

The more politically correct term for kathoey is sao (or phuying) praphet
song ("a second kind of woman"), or phet thee sam (third sex).

[LG]

I think there is a clear distinction between the two types as identified by Benjamin. I would suggest that many people might say that CDs to just one grouping. Although naturally TVs cross-dress, I'd say that not all TVs define as cross-dressers.

The question is "why does a cross-dresser cross-dress?" Is it for sexual satisfaction, is it because they feel comfortable in women's clothing, is it because they identify more with women than men? There are many reasons why one would choose to do it and I don't think it's fair to lump them all together.

I think Benjamin was on to something, but even his years of research cannot amount to the experience of just one person who has gone through these things. If we could put research aside for a little while (and as a researcher I also find that very difficult), I'd like to see what people actually believe on the issue and what the opinions of the guys and girls here are (including the TVs here).

That said, your post is well thought-out and well-written as always,

LG

[Rod la Rod]

As someone who grew up in the L.A. Hollywood Tranny scene in the Late 70's and 80's I have know many TS's that have gone back to their male persona.

Can anyone name a TS who has been on the scene turning tricks for 10-15 years or so and is still around and healthy?

What is the longevity of the average beautiful young TS in Hollywood or any large city? What happens when you turn 40 and turning tricks or doing porn is no longer an option.

[Dkg]

Travesti





However, there's nothing romantic about the life. The travesti rob their clients, inject silicone and take hormones to make their bodies more womanlike, are beaten up, live in postage-stamp-size rooms, can only hold boyfriends by giving them money and gifts, get AIDS, grow old, sometimes become drug-addicted, and rarely have financial security. They steal from each other, fight over boyfriends, and feel unloved.

That's pretty sad. I really feel sorry for them.

Equally sad, is that many times the same set of events
occurs domestically as well.

almost makes me want to go out and do something about it.....but then I start thinking about that project pat song "don't save her"

[taniatv]

I consider myself and describe myself as a transvestite (at this time), this is simply because I haven't had any surgery yet and I'm not taking hormones.

The word transvestite is Latin the actual translation is trans - 'cross' vestite - 'dresser' but to me being a transvestite is the first step on the ladder to becoming what I ultimately want: physically female.

The term cross dressing, for me at least doesn't come close. I consider some of the guys I see who want to wear a dress, panties or nylons in a session to be cross dressers. Once these guys cum their female aspirations are done. I believe that for transvestites the need and desire to be in female garb and mode is much deeper than a sexual fantasy and for me personally like I already said it's the first step.

All the Transsexuals in the world had to have been a transvestite at one point. Before hormones and surgery they were technically transvestites. If they dressed and explored their feminine side with make-up etc. (which I'm sure they did) then at that point in their transformation they were transvestites there's no other description for it.


That's my opinion anyhows.