Are Transexuals emotionally Stable?

[Birgitta]

La cosa you.keep calling ts woman guys, and what.i find offensive is that you assume i did not think deeply about my own situation, i never said im biologically female, and i cant defend myself in english language writing from my mobile phone...you choose not to believe, that is your choice, you do not want to understand, fine..
My sister is a feminist, my god even i am, she ia a masculine woman and she believes and understands me but naturally a lot of masculine woman wont believe us, what we are doing messes with their self image, it does not take a lot to understand that...
I dont think you treat me respectfully, you come across as a creep with your scientific theories
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And you know what????
Let them abort us, i never wanted to be a ts anyway and would not wish it on anyone else...
But i am worried for all the bisexual and straight guys that have found their sexual identity because we excist, what will happen to them

And me being disrespectfull, ive been on this forum for two months and this is the last subject im contributing to coz i really am fed up with the majority of the guys here, you being one of them...

You think you are so smart but not for one moment have you thought about what it perhaps would be like to stand in my shoes,

You are here to yerk off and you dont respect the girls in your fantasy, that makes you a pervert in my view

And you dont have to educate me on how fucked up the world is and the human race, i know

[Birgitta]

oh and btw, naturally a girl born in the wrong body raised in the wrong gender will have psychological and emotional problems, i dont believe most girls that dont have problems without going into therapy to be real woman...

Take any boy or girl, give them a sex change when they are born, raise them in the wrong gender, give them the wrong sex hormones and i am sure most will be suicidal, especially if it cannot be fixed

[dderek123]

oh and btw, naturally a girl born in the wrong body raised in the wrong gender will have psychological and emotional problems, i dont believe most girls that dont have problems without going into therapy to be real woman...

Take any boy or girl, give them a sex change when they are born, raise them in the wrong gender, give them the wrong sex hormones and i am sure most will be suicidal, especially if it cannot be fixed

So the majority of transsexuals are not emotionally stable.

Life is hard enough as it is. I personally believe that transsexuals have a very difficult life. Some can deal with it all because they are strong or they have the right support from friends and family. Others who are not so fortunate have a good chance of developing problems.

Everyone has baggage. Just some can deal with it better than others.

[Birgitta]

Hey this guy is smart. I think I'll keep reading!

Cool story, bro.

Huh?

WTF?

He thinks he's smart, but im not a stupid girl, i am very selfconsciouss and aware of my own situation and the world around me and my relation with the world around me.

I btw understand a lot of feminists that claim tswoman arent woman, i find it understandable coz i think the same exactly. But i have known a lot of twoman also that were more woman, both on the inside and out, then most woman are...

I know a very friendly open minded masculine feminist that told me she cant imagine wanting to be a woman...she is projecting her thoughts and emotions on me because she rather would have been male...
What she does not understand is that i want to be male too, and im dead serious, i dont want to be a woman, i dont even much like woman lol but i cannot choose my genderidentity...

[Birgitta]

So the majority of transsexuals are not emotionally stable.

Life is hard enough as it is. I personally believe that transsexuals have a very difficult life. Some can deal with it all because they are strong or they have the right support from friends and family. Others who are not so fortunate have a good chance of developing problems.

Everyone has baggage. Just some can deal with it better than others.

There are a lot of ts woman that were happy straight guys that discovered they were woman when they started dressing up and it turned them on, then they want more, live fulltime and get srs.

I dont believe a lot of them are actual woman

Also i think a lot of tgirls are not woman but rather effeminate men that improve their social life and love life by going fulltime,

But i dont think a lot of them are actual woman....

I dont believe a girl born in the male body and therefor devoid of an identity and sense of self from a very early age will NOT develop psychological problems....unless they are able to live like girls as children

[LaCosa]

La cosa you.keep calling ts woman guys, and what.i find offensive is that you assume i did not thunk deeply about my own situation, i never said im biologically female, and i cant defend myself in english language writing from my mobile phone...you choose not to believe, that is your choice, you do not want to understand, fine..
My sister is a feminist, my god even i am, she ia a masculine woman and she believes and understands me but naturally a lot of masculine woman wont believe us, what we are doing messes with their self image, it does not take a lot to understand that...

Birgitta, just a slight background information, I've voted for all Democrats except for once in my life. (although I refuse to ever vote for any Democrats again)

I consider myself at this point in life a political agnostic that leans "liberal" on some things and "conservative" on others.

You know... I got banned from a Catholic web board for mentioning you transsexuals as I would mention blacks, women, bikers, cops or any nationality of people. The fact that I admitted some of you are very attractive looking certainly didn't help either. Mentioning transsexuals was considered by the mods to be "R rated" subject matter. But I argued you all are human and apart of this world. So, I don't transsexuals with disdain or as objects with no human qualities.

But I can't win when it comes to the issues of homosexuality and transsexualism. For me to make everyone happy and fit in every crowd I would have to wear a different "hat" for each crowd I'm around. I would have to betray what I actually think.

And I'm not trying - not intentionally - to call T-girls guys. Actually, I'm pretty pleased you all are so adamant your girls. The last thing I would want if I was in a relationship with a T-girl is for her to want to be treated like a man or think she was a man.

And I think you are asking too much of me. Empathy I can have. I can empathize a transsexual or Bosnian Muslim for that matter. But I can not feel and experience exactly what you do. I'm not transsexual. So, I can empathize by trying to put myself in your shoes, but I'm still going to be left with my intellectual opinion. And for the record, I empathize with most pedophiles (excepted some of the extreme violent and cruel ones) - possibly the most hated people today. But I'm not a pedophile and I'm going to have my opinion.

I dont think you treat me respectfully, you come across as a creep with your scientific theories.

Listen... I appreciate science and what little I have learned, and naturally some of it is going to shape my world view or at least inform my opinion. But I'm not as into the whole science praise thing as you think.

I'm probably a little more zealot on the science thing after having gotten into a very mean spirited debate with a cat on another site once. Without going into - or writing a bunch about it - I basically used to not mention much science "stuff." I would talk more from my personal opinion as well as provide the views from the Catholic Church. But I was accused of always deferring to religion and never science. Even worse it was insinuated I hated biology and science. This was coming from more than one atheist that had no science education at all.

After all of that I've become a little more offensive with deferring to science in my commentaries.

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And you know what????
Let them abort us, i never wanted to be a ts anyway and would not wish it on anyone else...
But i am worried for all the bisexual and straight guys that have found their sexual identity because we excist, what will happen to them

And me being disrespectfull, ive been on this forum for two months and this is the last subject im contributing to coz i really am fed up with the majority of the guys here, you being one of them...

Birgitta, there is no need for you to leave or stop contributing in threads, I've always maintained, and I still believe to this moment, that this site (the porn angle and hustle aside) is more for you gals. And I mean that empathetically. You girls have a difficult enough time in life and it's nice to have a social space - even online - to feel safe from the hostility or bigotry in the world.

So, please stay and continue contributing on the board and socializing with your friends.

You think you are so smart but not for one moment have you thought about what it perhaps would be like to stand in my shoes.

No, you are 100% wrong. I don't feel that confident in science subjects and I'm not that well educated in any of them. But I've had the benefit of having a little education on some fundamentals in science. Biology mainly.

To give an analogy, if education and knowledge in sciences was marked from 0 to 30 I would place myself at about 7 or 8. Now, just imagine where that might place many people that never had any science education? See what I'm saying?

You are here to yerk off and you dont respect the girls in your fantasy, that makes you a pervert in my view.

I'm not going to say I've never fondled myself looking at two or three of the girls on this site - I have. But I'm being honest when I tell you since the date I've become a member of this site myself fondling to pictures constitutes 1% of the time and focus or goal on the board - maybe 3% at the most. The vast majority of my energy and focus is on reading threads, maybe giving comment on some pics in threads, and sometimes engaging in a debate.

I do look at a lot of porn but it's not on this site. I prefer this site for the forum (kind of similar to Playboy magazine actually having good fuckin articles at times).

I'm no more a pervert than most other people in the world. Actually, that Catholic website I was kicked off of would view anyone attracted to, dating, or married to a transsexual as a pervert. I had to endure being judged by those people (many women - oh the women hated me the worse! for speaking well of you T-girls) while sticking up for you gals (I typed "guy" at first, but then it dawned on me you might think I meant "guy" as males, in this case), so, you can spare me your judgement too.

And I respect the girls just fine enough. I'm not going to treat any of you like men. So, why don't we just leave it at pre-op T-girls being girls with balls and dicks? And I'm not being sarcastic nor meaning to be obtuse. I mean for real... you gals are girls but with certain male anatomical features.

[LaCosa]

He thinks he's smart, but im not a stupid girl, i am very selfconsciouss and aware of my own situation and the world around me and my relation with the world around me.

Birgitta, this is from my reply to you that I posted in post #155 on page 16. How do you construe this as me thinking I'm "smart" (I think I'm intelligent in some things true) or insulting you?

I don't think you're stupid. But I think we are talking about this from two very different points. Because of that I think misunderstanding in any further conversation of the subject is inevitable. So, I think I'll just humbly bow out the topic.

When I said, "I think we are talking about this from two very different points," I was trying to say that we have two different educational backgrounds and personal experiences, at this point in our lives, that will impact our perspectives. And I was trying to phrase that in the most respectful way I could.

Please understand this: It's not me trying to "be smart" but I don't think it's right to ask any person to abandon their education simply for peer pressure or popular view. Or even for someone - as yourself - that has deep, sincere feelings about something personal to her that she's certain she knows from her personal experience. I'm not making light of your personal experience.

Should an atheist believe the person that walks cured out of a wheel chair crediting a saint or God with their new ability to walk?

I had uncle with a very high IQ that was schizophrenic too. When not on his medication he would perform "Mass" and swore God spoke to him and gave him the power to spread AIDS in the world. He really believed this stuff when he was not taking his medication. This same uncle was homosexual too I later found out from my mother (his sister). He passed away a few years ago.

So, I have not been trying to make light of your personal experiences which I'm sure to you is truth, as you experience it as truth. But at this particular moment - from what lessons I've felt I've learned in biology (how I assimilate it in my mind at least) - I'm the atheists in this situation, with respects to people being born X, Y, and Z.

[Birgitta]

Thete have been very few studies done on the cause of transsexuals, but the studies that were done point to a physical cause, hormonal and genetic i think...i dont need to know cause i know unfortunately im not mad...not according to myself or any therapist i have seen...educate yourself first before making assumptions/accusations about transwoman,
And last but not least, i could not care less about you wanting a chick with a dick, i date entirely different guys then you and someone with your attitude i will never let near me, let alone touch me..

And i dont care if you dont understand that, im used to guys like you that dont understand and i am through wasting my time here...

Good luck
Birgitta

[dreamon]

bumping 4 year old troll threads... cool.

[Miss Fagina]

Hey, I liked what LaCosa wrote. Not really what anyone would expect to find on a forum devoted to the promotion of cam shows or escort services, but I read with much interest anyway. I don't think he's completely up to snuff on transsexual scientific theory though (or avoiding the subject), but then again Birgitta clearly isn't either. And by all means lets not go there, since that often, somehow seems to blow up, into fights between girls thinking they're the only one who's the "real deal" and everybody else fakers... Perhaps this is to late already.