appearance of post-op pussies

[62des]

Whatever. I try to do a search on somethings and THOUSANDS of posts come up, do you actually think I'm gonna look through all of that?! Then when I try to get to the next search page its talkin about no search options match your criteria or something. Some of you people talk as if you know SO MUCH MORE than everybody else when you don't know how much of an ass you're coming off to be. No offense but it has to be said. As a man who's seen so much pussy on the net AND real life you can't tell me how experienced I am at telling the real thing from surgery. There's always a trace of something that seems odd. Why don't you drop a few pictures and see if I'm bullshitting or do I know what I'm talkin about.

[peggygee]

WTF is up with this! I come here to learn more about transexuals and my attractionto them and I get this? I asked what's a GG SIMPLY because I wasn't familiar with the terms used here and also wasn't familiar with "Top" and "bottom" until like 2 days ago. Why are yall watching me so hard just what did I do wrong. Yea I've been visiting transexual porn sites now for a long while but just recently learned of forums where we could interact. That's a bunch of bull how yall just start attacking me for no reason! Just because I didn't know of the terminology here I am suspicious? Haven't you all heard of this little thing called "learning"?

Well man, it's like this: A lot of your questions have been asked many, many times before. A simple search would turn up answers to your questions and show you how fruitless many discussions there have been. Yes, you have a point about not knowing what certain terms mean, but again....I think there was a thread about that too.

After you've been here a while, you get kind of tired of reading the same old thing. Certain topics are taboo, it's much better to observe first than to jump straight into the ocean. There are sharks and they will bite your ass! It doesn't matter how well meaning your question is, certain things are untouchable. Watch and learn first.

Close, but no cigar.

It isn't just what you say, but also how you say it.

And for me personally, referring to transwomen as 'shemales'
and making disparaging remarks about post operative
women are fighting words.



And whenever that occurs, we will be having this discussion
again.

Because;

IPOWA is the acronym for the International Post
Operative Womens Association.

Our mission statement:

Mission:
The primary objective of the International Post
Operative Women Association (IPOWA)
is education and advocacy on issues related
to post operative transsexual women.

Specifically:
Providing information to the general public, government
entities, academia, and our members at large.

Said information shall consist of, but not be limited to issues
of Law, Employment, Health, and Technology.

We will coordinate effective and efficient strategies, and
policies through continuity, communication, and collaboration.

Finally, IPOWA will never remain mute, to statements that are
libelous, slanderous, or derogatory in nature, that are made to,
or about women in general, and, transgendered and post
operative women specifically.

[TomSelis]

Whatever. I try to do a search on somethings and THOUSANDS of posts come up, do you actually think I'm gonna look through all of that?! Then when I try to get to the next search page its talkin about no search options match your criteria or something. Some of you people talk as if you know SO MUCH MORE than everybody else when you don't know how much of an ass you're coming off to be. No offense but it has to be said. As a man who's seen so much pussy on the net AND real life you can't tell me how experienced I am at telling the real thing from surgery. There's always a trace of something that seems odd. Why don't you drop a few pictures and see if I'm bullshitting or do I know what I'm talkin about.

Yes, but that's the point. What you're basically saying is "can't be bothered." But had you taken the time out to read some of those threads, you would see that some people have made some really fucked up statements about post-ops.

[Kriss]

maybe this whole thread got off on the wrong foot, but I do not need people getting all judgemental with me and calling me f*cked up in so many words. Thanks a lot, Kriss!

My bad. I, for one, stand by what I have said and what has obviously been taken the wrong way by others here: I admire post-ops, and as long as I do, what does it matter why I do. And mere sex objects they are not to me.

But to spare you my stupid inane clueless comments in the future, this will be my last post. Ever.

My real problem is with the folowing statement

A neo-vagina in itself is very erotic and intriguing to me, at times even more so than a GG's parts. Somehow it's a turn-on to think that they had a dick once..

That statement is SO wrong. Believe me , if you tell that to a post-op Transwoman she will probably give you a swift "hack-job" of your own.

It's quite simple, Transwomen are WOMEN. The LAST thing a TS woman want's to hear is that you are interested in her only because of her TS status. It's disgusting and abusive to treat TS women as an 'oddity', fixating on the genitals and what 'was there'. These girls get the surgery so they can just be themselves, live their lives, so let them. I hate these guys who like girls for WHAT they WERE and not WHO they ARE. These men are poison to Transwomen, am I wrong?

[peggygee]

Whatever. I try to do a search on somethings and THOUSANDS of posts come up, do you actually think I'm gonna look through all of that?! Then when I try to get to the next search page its talkin about no search options match your criteria or something.

Some of you people talk as if you know SO MUCH MORE than everybody else when you don't know how much of an ass you're coming off to be. No offense but it has to be said. As a man who's seen so much pussy on the net AND real life you can't tell me how experienced I am at telling the real thing from surgery. There's always a trace of something that seems odd. Why don't you drop a few pictures and see if I'm bullshitting or do I know what I'm talkin about.

Admittedly the search function here can take a little getting used
to, but if you are interested I could share some tricks with you
on how to better navigate it.

As to your second point, about folks speaking as if they were
authorities on transgenderism. I can not attest to their level of
expertise.

However, in my instance, I have lived full time as a transwoman for
over thirty years. Ten of those years have been as a post operative
transwoman.

I have intimate, real world experience with trans / natal women and
their vaginas, as well as formal training on the topic of transgenderism.

Thus, I feel I know wherof I speak.

[peggygee]

maybe this whole thread got off on the wrong foot, but I do not need people getting all judgemental with me and calling me f*cked up in so many words. Thanks a lot, Kriss!

My bad. I, for one, stand by what I have said and what has obviously been taken the wrong way by others here: I admire post-ops, and as long as I do, what does it matter why I do. And mere sex objects they are not to me.

But to spare you my stupid inane clueless comments in the future, this will be my last post. Ever.

My real problem is with the folowing statement

A neo-vagina in itself is very erotic and intriguing to me, at times even more so than a GG's parts. Somehow it's a turn-on to think that they had a dick once..

That statement is SO wrong. Believe me , if you tell that to a post-op Transwoman she will probably give you a swift "hack-job" of your own.

It's quite simple, Transwomen are WOMEN. The LAST thing a TS woman want's to hear is that you are interested in her only because of her TS status. It's disgusting and abusive to treat TS women as an 'oddity', fixating on the genitals and what 'was there'. These girls get the surgery so they can just be themselves, live their lives, so let them. I hate these guys who like girls for WHAT they WERE and not WHO they ARE.

These men are poison to Transwomen, am I wrong?

They are a

[62des]

OK I can respect this. I do 100% see post op transexuals as women I agree. I see pre op transexuals as women but others might not. I guess the "shemale" part is what threw me off. I didn't know it was such an offensive word. I guess its kinda like the "N" word said to me. Well there could've been a more polite way to tell me and not attacking me for my ignorance. My goodness if its THAT important it should be in a "sticky" so everyone can read it.

[peggygee]

OK I can respect this. I do 100% see post op transexuals as women I agree. I see pre op transexuals as women but others might not. I guess the "shemale" part is what threw me off. I didn't know it was such an offensive word. I guess its kinda like the "N" word said to me. Well there could've been a more polite way to tell me and not attacking me for my ignorance. My goodness if its THAT important it should be in a "sticky" so everyone can read it.

Cool beans.

Yeah, there are a few topics and buzz words that are pretty
much guaranteed to provoke a flame war.

And if you're a person of color, I think you can empathize with
how the 'S' word is like the 'N' word.

But overall, this can at times be a great place. And if as you state,
you are looking to learn more about tranwomen, that can happen
as well.

There are a number of very bright, informed, compassionate people,
that may be able to share their insights.

HA - 'It's not all about 'dick pics'.

Oh, and by the way;

[roy404]

If you guys just knew how many post-op girls, especially from the eastern Europe countries, pose for mens mags and I mean Spread beaver pink shots you would s--t..
I personally have a date with a post-op stripper here in town Monday that has danced for 6 years without anyone knowing. I knew her in New Orleans and she got ahold of me when she moved. I also date many others in fact more than pre-op's.
As the ladies here said there are all types of surgery. And as I have said before much of the result is due to the girls after care and how she takes care of HERSELF.
Yes some look bad but so do a few GG ones after a few kids.
You people have to remember most of the post-op in the world are NOT in the adult entertainment world.

[TJ347]

I don't know enough about this subject to comment on it (though that doesn't stop most people)... However, it is interesting, and I'd like to know from whence some people are getting the idea the vagina of a post-op transsexual female and a genetic female are so radically different in appearance, so that I might gain some insight.

Anyone? Pics? Links?