Ron Paul..Whats the Story??

[qeuqheeg222]

sad but most likely true francis..so sad for a country to claim to be the best in everything yet to be so ignorant on so many levels...and we are not NO.1 at everything anymore...stupid,ugly,ignorant,american deathsuckers said william s. burroughs

[guyone]

I think Obama's plans are very, very naive. Crazy gobbeldy gook health care ideas, schools in prisons, etc. How about rewarding the law abiding, middle class worker for a change?

In NYC Oxford offers a health care plan with pretty decent coverage for $4,800 per year which is about 10% of the average median income for Americans. Do you really think the government can do better? What about all the unemployed health care workers who will be out of work when they are no longer needed by the insurance companies. Some will work for the newly established national health care service as tenured civil servants who as we all know NEVER make mistakes and are so very sympathetic to our problems.

[LG]

I think Obama's plans are very, very naive. Crazy gobbeldy gook health care ideas, schools in prisons, etc. How about rewarding the law abiding, middle class worker for a change?

In NYC Oxford offers a health care plan with pretty decent coverage for $4,800 per year which is about 10% of the average median income for Americans. Do you really think the government can do better? What about all the unemployed health care workers who will be out of work when they are no longer needed by the insurance companies. Some will work for the newly established national health care service as tenured civil servants who as we all know NEVER make mistakes and are so very sympathetic to our problems.

Naive? I just think they're a little progressive. The health care issue is a major one and perhaps some areas offer affordable health care plans but not all. Can the government offer quality health care at a lower cost? It has been done in Europe so why not?

As for health care workers being laid off, I think that if the economy grows they will find new jobs.

If we don't nominate either John Edwards, Wesley Clarke or Bill Richardson, we're going to lose; plain and simple.

Possibly true. If I were a Democrat, I wouldn't want John Edwards- he's been in the news for a number of wrong reasons. In most cases the criticism wasn't valid, but it won't help him.

Wesley Clark seems good. A war veteran, intelligent and seems reasonable enough about most things. But will he run?

Governor Bill Richardson I know very little about. Hillary seems the most likely to get the nomination, to me and she could win. Gore could win the presidency too, if they can get him to run in the primaries. But I do think that Barrack Obama would make the best president. He could usher in a new era for the US.

[guyone]

Naive? I just think they're a little progressive. The health care issue is a major one and perhaps some areas offer affordable health care plans but not all. Can the government offer quality health care at a lower cost? It has been done in Europe so why not?

Ask princess Diana what she thinks about European health care. NY has one of the highest health care costs in the nation and its pretty affordable if you don't dump your weekly paycheck at a casino.

As for health care workers being laid off, I think that if the economy grows they will find new jobs.

OK so some people will get rehired by the government to work the rest will have to find other work. I guess those are the little details that get worked out when the dust settles. As a result the government will get less tax revenues because the insurance companies will be making considerably less. The answer - - - RAISE TAXES! So eventually businesses are paying 50% of their income in taxes like in France. There's an incentive for ya! Not to mention the economy will be growing at a record pace if businesses are forced to pay higher taxes....AAHHHHHHHHHHHH!

[qeuqheeg222]

healthcare costs have gone up by something like 85% in the last 10 yrs..so in yer great world of republican free markets and the made up such has the demand for medical care gone up 85% in this country?should the supply have raised prices 85% to meet this supposed demand?...p.s when you blame those dang illigal immigrants for this remember the number of them in this country tripled or quintupled under yer boy shrubya(he wants his big business bros to get all the cheap labor possible to compete with china?)...

[guyone]

And your point is?

[Blank]

The America he apparently wants is the white-washed Christian one that was an illiusion of the 1950's. In addtion to opposition to gay rights, abortion and stem cell research, he hs espoused some very racist views in the past

Paul has said "Opinion polls consistently show that only about 5 percent of blacks have sensible political opinions, i.e. support the free market, individual liberty and the end of welfare and affirmative action,"

Paul continued that politically sensible blacks are outnumbered "as decent people." Citing reports that 85 percent of all black men in the District of Columbia are arrested, Paul wrote:

"Given the inefficiencies of what D.C. laughingly calls the `criminal justice system,' I think we can safely assume that 95 percent of the black males in that city are semi-criminal or entirely criminal," Paul said.

Paul also wrote that although "we are constantly told that it is evil to be afraid of black men, it is hardly irrational. Black men commit murders, rapes, robberies, muggings and burglaries all out of proportion to their numbers"

In one issue of the Ron Paul Survival Report, the newsletter he published since 1985, he called former U.S. representative Barbara Jordan a "fraud" and a "half-educated victimologist."

He has also expressed some anti-semitic points of view. In another of his newsletters, Mr. Paul also wrote that "By far the most powerful lobby in Washington of the bad sort is the Israeli government" and that the goal of the Zionist movement is to stifle criticism.

He might have some good ideas, but not enough to make up for an otherwise very narrow mind.

FK

"The America he apparently wants is the white-washed Christian one that was an illiusion of the 1950's"

He wants countries to respect us and make friends with nations, something he never fails to mention when discussing foreign policy. He wants to return our civil liberties which are threatened by the Patriot Act and military commissions act.

The whole racial thing is explained here, whether you choose to believe it or not is your choice:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_pau...letter_on_race

*Yes I know, anyone can edit wikipedia but the info has a credible source. The reason I don't link to that is because you have to register and subscribe to the website to read it. The sources are linked in the wikipedia article.

[El_hefe]

Yeah, just to clarify felicia's misrepresentation of Pauls views.....he IS against all those things as FEDERALLY MANDATED laws, eg, if Portland OR wants to legalize gay marriage & Lubbock TX doesn't want to - that should be the citizens' perogative in both of those jurisdictions... Same with drug laws, consensual adult sex, etc.... San Francisco wouldn't have to have the same laws as Tulsa.
Also if you believe that individual rights should trump in this republic & any group, blacks or religious right, who largely side with political factions that want to federalize mandated behavior (hiring quotas, prayer in schools, eminent domain, the Drug War), you would characterize them as illogical without being racist or anti-God.[/list]

[deecee]

Ron Paul is the only true candidate because he isn't running for President as a politician like the other candidates. He truly cares about this country and the constitution. He is not against the gay lifestyle. he just believes the states should make the decision and the Federal gov't should stay out of it. Imagine if you got your paycheck and it was touched by nobody. you get to keep 100% of it. Imagine you wanted a loan on a house or a car. Instead of going to bank to qualify and then paying a huge interest rate you would get the money that congress coined interest free. Ron Paul visions an America with very limited gov't. He believes that people should be in control of their own life. he said that sure maybe your neighbor might do something you don't approve of but as long as he doesn't try to harm or hurt you.. (which is the same line of what Thomas Jefferson said). Before you make judgment on him, listen to what he says and not what other people tell you he said (including this post) All the other candidates, Republican or democrat are all playing for the same team and all are getting funded from special interest groups who in return want to use the White house for their own personal agendas. And if they help put a man in the White House they are going to want the favor returned which usually isn't in the best interest of the American people.

[qeuqheeg222]

people will often believe a simple lie,no matter how bad then think through the complex truth...history and religion are the beginning of this human apathy..and still to this "enlightened" day in th 21st century we find ourselves fightin tribal and sectarian or religious violence akin to the middle ages circa a.d.1000......