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    Quote Originally Posted by Felicia Katt
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    You mean that tgirls are the answer to the ultimate question of life, the universe and everything?
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    not enough?



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    Quote Originally Posted by whatsupwithat
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    You mean that tgirls are the answer to the ultimate question of life, the universe and everything?
    glad someone got it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trans_Lover
    not enough?
    Man, I don't get you. One minute you're saying you love tgirls, the next you spout crap like:
    trannies are all nut cases
    I don't even know why you hang around here, since, as you claim this is
    a forum full of fags in denial
    where
    99% of topics are from self obsessed fucktards
    This place, you claim
    seems totally full of self centered tards
    and most of us
    are fucking idiots, and tweaked in the head
    Apparently"
    certified tranny experts" are just closet queers
    , you say so we can just blow you
    and swallow a chunky load
    Chunky? Ewww...

    So I must ask you once again. What the fuck is your problem? Are you schizophrenic or just retarded?


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    Quote Originally Posted by LG
    just retarded
    Since you clearly know the answer, why ask the question LG?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Felicia Katt
    Quote Originally Posted by whatsupwithat
    Quote Originally Posted by Felicia Katt
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    You mean that tgirls are the answer to the ultimate question of life, the universe and everything?
    glad someone got it

    FK
    Sorry, I was having coffee at the Restaurant at the End of the Universe, so couldn't post promptly.


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    Quote Originally Posted by BeardedOne
    Quote Originally Posted by Felicia Katt
    Quote Originally Posted by whatsupwithat
    Quote Originally Posted by Felicia Katt
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    You mean that tgirls are the answer to the ultimate question of life, the universe and everything?
    glad someone got it

    FK
    Sorry, I was having coffee at the Restaurant at the End of the Universe, so couldn't post promptly.
    well, i got it too........



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    Quote Originally Posted by Felicia Katt
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    The meaning of all things in the universe. I loved those books growing up, and the movie opened it up again for me recently.



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    Quote Originally Posted by BeardedOne
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    Quote Originally Posted by whatsupwithat
    Quote Originally Posted by Felicia Katt
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    You mean that tgirls are the answer to the ultimate question of life, the universe and everything?
    glad someone got it

    FK
    Sorry, I was having coffee at the Restaurant at the End of the Universe, so couldn't post promptly.
    I find that highly improbable

    meow

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    Quote Originally Posted by peggygee
    Quote Originally Posted by AGTFB
    Whoa! 1 in 10000? I always heard it was 1 in 250.


    If it's 1 in 10000, how are there so many of them out there?
    AGTFB

    That is is an interesting question.

    I believe the answer lies in the fact that this APA article is quoting the rate found in Western countries.

    However if you factor in countries like Thailand, Brazil, etc, then this may skew the results.

    Also, with the Internet, and rapid air travel, you tend to have one large 'global village'. Thus the 'hottie' ten thousand miles away, is on your desktop in a nanosecond, or in your arms after a short airline flight

    How prevalent are transgender people?

    It is difficult to accurately estimate the prevalence of transgender people in Western countries. As many as 2-3% of biological males engage in cross-dressing, at least occasionally. Current estimates of the prevalence of transsexualism are about 1 in 10,000 for biological males and 1 in 30,000 for biological females. The number of people in other transgender categories is unknown.
    Quote Originally Posted by yodajazz
    Ok, lets do the math. 1 in 10,000 = 10 in 100,000 = 100 in 1 million. Then the 1 in 10,000 will come to the larger cities for community support.
    So I wonder how many would be in a large city like NYC or LA? If the US is approaching 300 million then that would mean 15, 000 M to F in the US.

    If you include other gender varients such crossdressers, at 2 to 3 percent
    that would mean 3 to 4.5 million in the US using the number of 150 million males.

    Anyway, i have a question of my own. Can post-ops generally experience orgasms though oral sex only? A good percentage of GGs can do it; so I hear: not that I've ever tried it myself.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ecstatic
    Quote Originally Posted by peggygee
    Quote Originally Posted by AGTFB
    Whoa! 1 in 10000? I always heard it was 1 in 250.


    If it's 1 in 10000, how are there so many of them out there?
    AGTFB

    That is is an interesting question.

    I believe the answer lies in the fact that this APA article is quoting the rate found in Western countries.

    However if you factor in countries like Thailand, Brazil, etc, then this may skew the results.

    Also, with the Internet, and rapid air travel, you tend to have one large 'global village'. Thus the 'hottie' ten thousand miles away, is on your desktop in a nanosecond, or in your arms after a short airline flight

    How prevalent are transgender people?

    It is difficult to accurately estimate the prevalence of transgender people in Western countries. As many as 2-3% of biological males engage in cross-dressing, at least occasionally. Current estimates of the prevalence of transsexualism are about 1 in 10,000 for biological males and 1 in 30,000 for biological females. The number of people in other transgender categories is unknown.
    This is a fascinating subject indeed, Peggygee. I've posted some research (by others) and speculation on that research (by myself and others) in this forum and other forums in the past.

    I've read various estimates from various sources (some of which have been discussed on HA, in VR's forum, and on TGT), ranging from 1:30,000 to 1:5 (the first seems extremely low, the second absurdly high; the most credible estimates range between 1:250 to 1:3000). Lynn Conway (http://ai.eecs.umich.edu/people/conw...successes.html) estimates 30-40,000 post-op TS in the US; she also has the figure of 50,000 TS in Malaysia (a country of 22 million). Due to differing social attitudes, estimates of the TS population in a country like Thailand are probably much more accurate than in the US, where so many are stealth. Thailand's 300,000 translates to 1:206; I doubt that the US ratio of TS to the general population is nearly as great, but 1:3000 seems reasonable (+/- 100,000). It's frustrating though to search for any real data relative to the US demongraphics because there is so little hard data to work with.

    However, what it means to be transgendered, as you indicate, varies from culture to culture. Many Brazilian transsexuals (those who have had extensive surgeries and HRT to emulate their ideal female form) are not transgendered in the sense that we may use the term: witness Lisa Lawer reverting to male (and she's not the only one). In Thailand, it's commonplace for katoey to not even have breast implants but simply dress very feminine and wear their hair very long, yet they are psychologically transgendered (cf. Male, Female and Transgender: Stereotypes and Self in Thailand by Sam Winter and Nuttawut Udomsak, http://www.symposion.com//ijt/ijtvo06no01_04.htm). (Of course, many katoey do indeed have feminization surgery and GRS, there's the full spectrum.)

    This is only the initial stab at estimating the ratio of transgendered to the general population, and it may be far off for any number of reasons, but it's a start. The best estimates, for instance, show a ratio of 1:206 for Thailand (approx. 300,000 TS out of a base population of over 62 million) and 1:270 for the Philippines (approx. 250,000 out of 80 million), which is within the range I propose (+/- 1:300), though the cultural differences between these southeast Asian countries are extreme in many ways (all TS in the Philippines are considered gay, while Thais are considered a "third sex" or katoey, distinct from gay men and more accepted socially--though not without limitations).

    In other words, regardless of what the known transgender population of any country is, there must be a statistically valid ratio of transgendered to normally gendered persons in any population, and I'm suggesting that that ratio is on the order of 1:300 or even 1:200. However, many people may not even realize that they are transgendered (as evidenced by the number of TS who comment on their confusion prior to beginning their transition, going through gay phases and the like because they don't understand their own innate nature). Moreover, some people may become transsexual without actually being transgendered (this is reportedly the case among many of Brazil's TS population, where many are actually gay men, not transwomen: see Lisa Lawer as an example). Social and cultural patterns, coupled with individual actualization, probably make it impossible to determine the ratio with any precision. But if transgenderism is innate, and especially if it stems from prenatal development (which is appearing to be the case for homosexuality), then it stands to reason that there is a statisical baseline of TG people in the general population.
    Sources: American Psychological Association
    http://www.apa.org/topics/transgender.html

    http://www.hungangels.com/board/view...=12755&start=0



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