A good indication of bad service... maybe?

[johnnyshemalelover]

There's a certain escort who posts to this board. She's outstandingly beautiful, far beyond most and gorgeous enough to be a Playboy cover girl. I'm not going to mention her by name so please don't ask--I would mention her by name IF I actually hired her and had a bad experiences, but because I'm judging based solely on email communications, it would be grossly unfair to name her.

Though she's the most beautiful shemale I've ever seen (and I've seen enough of her photos to know), I not only wouldn't hire her, I wouldn't have sex with her if she paid me. I know that sounds ridiculous, but read on and I'll explain why.

First, I sent her this:

Hi. I saw you on Hungangels.com. Are you still in the escort business? If so, I was wondering if I could trouble you for your pricing structure, as I may decide to hire a shemale escort someday, and you really are drop-dead gorgeous! I'm johnnyshemalelover on hungangles.com, just FYI.

Thanks in advance.

Her response was simply that she is still escorting, and to check out her group. She ignored the question about pricing, and the compliment. I believe she sent a "canned" response.

I replied to her:

Thank you, Gorgeous.

I didn't see rates there, though. Maybe I didn't look in the right place? But I appreciate the lovely photos you've shared!

Do you like the song "Over the Rainbow"? I just found the most hauntingly beautiful rendition ever. You can play it on my myspace page which is (deleted for this post for privacy)

I don't know if you ever make it to Minneapolis or Chicago, but if I ever decide to hire you as an escort I can just go to one of the cities you're touring in. The way I see it, spending time with someone like you is a once-in-a-lifetime thing, so saving up and spending extra to travel would be ok. Again this is just how I see it, but I wouldn't be just paying you for the time you spend with me... I'd be paying you for the memories of the encounter as well, and I'll have those forever.

Her reply in its entirety:

My rate is xxxx for overnight and xxx incall. (I replaced the rates with "x" to protect her privacy. Let's just say the overnight rate was well over two grand.)

That's it.

My reply to her:

xxx incall? That's per hour, right? Not bad pricing. Higher than average of course, but you're worth it as far as being a world-class beauty. I will probably only hire an escort once in my life, so I want to make it a memorable experience. Beauty is only one facet of the experience, though. I could have sex with the most drop-dead gorgeous person on the planet, and the experience would be a bad one if that person made me feel insignificant. As an escort, people are paying you ultimately for how you make them feel.

The curt responses you've given me show a lack of any sort of regard for me as a person. That pretty much kills any desire I would have had for you. This is not meant as a personal criticism but rather as business advice.

If you're doing as well in your business as you would like, then my advice is of no use to you, and I apologize for wasting your time. If, however, you aren't getting as many repeat customers or customer referrals as you'd like, then you might want to consider what I've said.

The first rule as a service provider is that the most important client (or potential client) you'll ever have is the one you're focused on at the time. If you develop that sort of attitude, treating every client or potential client as though they are your most important customer ever, then you'll not only have repeat customers, you'll have raving fans who will sing your praises to others.

Take care, and have fun.


Essentially, when I am with an escort I know they're only having sex with me for the money, and I know that because I'm no prize I'd probably never get someone like that in real life, but for a little while I'd like to be able to pretend that I am an attractive and desirable enough human being that this person I'm hiring thinks I'm a hot stud. If I just want to have an orgasm, I can always jerk off. If I hire an escort, it's the human experience I'm paying for, not the hole or the prong or the chestal fat deposits or saline bags.

If the escort I'm hiring doesn't do a halfway-convincing job of acting like they care about me as a person or at least want my body, then it's pretty hard for me to pretend they do. Judging by her emails, she sees clients as contemptible wads of cash and nothing more.

Now, I could be wrong. It could be that she's so good, and gets so many clients, she doesn't have time to respond personally to all of them. That's why I'm not revealing her identity, because I am making some mighty big criticisms here based solely on assumptions.

If I have a question for the group, it would be:

Have you ever had an experience with an escort who was visually appealing and got you off sexually but left you emotionally unsatisfied because they made you feel like "just another john"?

[JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel]

Johnny Johnny Johnny Johnny Johnny.......................................

a few things to consider:

1. She gets 99 other emails like that a day.
2. She gets 99 other replies to the 99 emails a day.
3. She gets 99 replies to the 99 replies she replied to from the original 99 emails a day......................

My point? Beautiful or not factor in that many of these girls work with the 9:1 ratio of ads being responded to. Meaning that out of 10 responses 9 of them will be bullshit or guys looking for something she's not thinking about handling at the time, and 1 of them that just wants the time, knows the drill, and has the envelope ready upon door opening.

I just did an ad for a chick and she called me back to tell me she's gotten great "RESPONSES" to the ad. Guys were calling her saying it's the best in Miami right now and how they couldn't believe the pics were her, etc, etc, etc. Only a few said "I'd like to make an appt." Many were like "let's set something up for the weekend."

In the future if it's someone you think is hot and you know you want to see, just keep it brief via email or the phone. You want to talk do it during or after the session, because that's when you'll have her undivided attention away from the other 99 folks emailing her..............

[johnnyshemalelover]

Johnny Johnny Johnny Johnny Johnny.......................................

a few things to consider:

1. She gets 99 other emails like that a day.
2. She gets 99 other replies to the 99 emails a day.
3. She gets 99 replies to the 99 replies she replied to from the original 99 emails a day......................

My point? Beautiful or not factor in that many of these girls work with the 9:1 ratio of ads being responded to. Meaning that out of 10 responses 9 of them will be bullshit or guys looking for something she's not thinking about handling at the time, and 1 of them that just wants the time, knows the drill, and has the envelope ready upon door opening.

I just did an ad for a chick and she called me back to tell me she's gotten great "RESPONSES" to the ad. Guys were calling her saying it's the best in Miami right now and how they couldn't believe the pics were her, etc, etc, etc. Only a few said "I'd like to make an appt." Many were like "let's set something up for the weekend."

In the future if it's someone you think is hot and you know you want to see, just keep it brief via email or the phone.

"Johnny, Johnny, Johnny" yourself.

Didn't you read my whole post?

Here's one line I think you missed:

It could be that she's so good, and gets so many clients, she doesn't have time to respond personally to all of them.

Get it yet?

You want to talk do it during or after the session, because that's when you'll have her undivided attention away from the other 99 folks emailing her..............

You lack comprehension, you never even came close to getting my point. I never said I wanted to talk to her. I said that her replies were curt and left me feeling like a contemptible wad of cash. According to you, I should pay the money before I get any indication she's going to treat me differently at the session, and if she doesn't, I suppose I'm just out the thousands of dollars? No, sorry, that's bullshit. I'm pretty sure most escorts have a no-refund policy. If she's too busy to reply herself, she could include in her canned response "Sorry guys, but I get too many emails to reply to each one personally." The fact that she doesn't mention that tells me she's unconcerned about how she's perceived.

So either her business is doing so well she doesn't have to show courtesy in her responses, or she's just clueless about customer service. If the former is true, then obviously my advice to her isn't needed; but if she would like more customer referrals and repeat customers, or if she's wondering why more of the guys who email her don't eventually hire her, then it would do her well to heed it.

It would do you well to read more carefully, LOL!

[JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel]

Johnny I will admit I feel asleep ½ way through your post...................but regardless of my patience through your boring attempt to get some broad that failed miserably I hope you got the point I was trying to make:

In the future if it's someone you think is hot and you know you want to see, just keep it brief via email or the phone. You want to talk do it during or after the session, because that's when you'll have her undivided attention away from the other 99 folks emailing her..............

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[hwbs]

shes protecting herself legally...why do you think alot of the girls got their ads pulled off ser...cause it lists the monetary donations....it comes off as prostitution instead of escorting...i have dated many girls that do escort...i have heard all of the crazy calls (they never stop no matter what time)...u prob caught her on a bad day....otherwise just move on and find someone else...there are tons of escorts that rate a 10 on looks but zero on service...remember that please...i speak the truth......

[johnnyshemalelover]

Johnny I will admit I feel asleep ½ way through your post...................but regardless of my patience through your boring attempt to get some broad that failed miserably I hope you got the point I was trying to make:

In the future if it's someone you think is hot and you know you want to see, just keep it brief via email or the phone. You want to talk do it during or after the session, because that's when you'll have her undivided attention away from the other 99 folks emailing her..............

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You're stupid. Learn to read.
Hope that was simple enough for you.

[johnnyshemalelover]

shes protecting herself legally...why do you think alot of the girls got their ads pulled off ser...cause it lists the monetary donations....it comes off as prostitution instead of escorting...

No, I disagree. Escort service is completely legal. If I had asked her "what are your rates for sex" then you'd have a valid point. I simply asked what her rates were. And she told me the second time I asked, so she wasn't worried about the legality, she just didn't read the first post or didn't care to respond.

i have dated many girls that do escort...i have heard all of the crazy calls (they never stop no matter what time)...u prob caught her on a bad day....otherwise just move on and find someone else...there are tons of escorts that rate a 10 on looks but zero on service...remember that please...i speak the truth......

Thank you for understanding my point and for answering my question! That's good advice, and exactly what I was looking to find out. I was beginning to think the only responses I would be getting were the clueless ones from whiskybreath.

[BrendaQG]

Getting calls at 3:AM....the cognitive dissonace that I felt upon getting such a call did help drive me out of that business. Hell Tyra Banks, and Hallie Baerry look like shit at 3AM why would I look any better. ugh.

JhonnyShemale lover ...I'll just call you JSL

I can only imagine the cranky wierd stupid calls that other girls with better more elaborate ads get. From my own experience with the net it is quite a dangerous place. You have no idea if the person you are talking to is deranged, or a cop, or a serious customer.

If you want to experience a TS go to a bar or club and pick someone up in person. Furthermore don't loose your nerve, and just look at your shoes when you get there.

[lisaparadise]

as an escort and a very good one at that lets just say we all have our bad days and emails are so impersonall that we dont return them for the simple fact that bell made a telephone for us to comuminicate with and because most of us get over 100 emails a day we just have very busy lives and just dont have the time to return them all.if the girl in question is who i think it is im sure if ya did a search you would find a number.if you think most of us dont feel out clients by way of phone calls well we do,just because your interested in a girl doesnt always meen they will fit what your looking for aka if i got a call and didnt feel i could fullfill what he is looking for then id suggest a few others who are in my area that will fit his fantacy,the good escorts will do that because only a few of us are smart enough to know that its more impotant that the client gets what hes paying for over lying to the guy and promising stuff your not accustomed to doing just to make a buck. just my 2 cents

[johnnyshemalelover]

Getting calls at 3:AM....the cognitive dissonace that I felt upon getting such a call did help drive me out of that business. Hell Tyra Banks, and Hallie Baerry look like shit at 3AM why would I look any better. ugh.

JhonnyShemale lover ...I'll just call you JSL

I can only imagine the cranky wierd stupid calls that other girls with better more elaborate ads get. From my own experience with the net it is quite a dangerous place. You have no idea if the person you are talking to is deranged, or a cop, or a serious customer.

If you want to experience a TS go to a bar or club and pick someone up in person. Furthermore don't loose your nerve, and just look at your shoes when you get there.

Brenda, thank you for the advice and encouragement. You seem like a really nice person.

I got the impression that you believe I called her. Am I correct? If that's the case, then two out of three people responding have misunderstood my original post, and one of them being as intelligent as you, makes me think it wasn't written very clearly.

Maybe I'll delete it if I can--hollywoodbuckstrap answered my question anyway, so no reason to keep it there.

I'm looking forward to checking out your article "The Dynamics of Planck Scale Space-Time." It sounds great!!