Retired generals, Iraq veterans launch anti-war ads

[Quinn]

CONCORD, New Hampshire (AP) -- Three retired generals challenged a dozen members of Congress in a new ad campaign Wednesday, saying the politicians can't support President Bush's policies in Iraq and still expect to win re-election.

"I am outraged, as are the majority of Americans. I'm a lifelong Republican, but it's past time for change," retired Maj. Gen. John Batiste told reporters.

"Our strategy in Iraq today is more of the same, a slow grind to nowhere which totally ignores the reality of Iraq and the lessons of history," Batiste said. "Our president ignores sound military advice and surrounds himself with like-minded and compliant subordinates."

Batiste and Paul Eaton, also a retired major general, are featured in the ads by VoteVets.org. They challenge the president's argument that he listens to his commanders on the ground in Iraq and say the president's Iraq policies endanger U.S. security.

"The fact is, the president has never listened to the soldiers on the ground effectively," said retired NATO Supreme Allied Commander Wesley Clark, who ran for president in 2004. "This administration is not listening to the troops and is not supporting them."

Moderate Republicans target of ads

Other veterans promoted the campaign at a news conference in Manchester, the start of a six-state publicity tour targeting Sens. John Sununu of New Hampshire, Susan Collins of Maine, Norm Coleman of Minnesota and John Warner of Virginia, plus nine House members. All are Republicans.

Many in the group, including Sununu, have criticized various aspects of administration policy, but all have opposed legislation to establish a timetable for withdrawing American troops.

"Telling members of al Qaeda, militias or insurgent groups the date we will begin and end troop withdrawals is irresponsible," Sununu said.

When VoteVets.org ran ads in February, Sununu said critics of the war have every right to speak out, "but no group or individual should claim to speak for all the patriotic Americans serving in Iraq and around the world in our armed forces."

The House members targeted by the new ads are Mary Bono of California, Phil English of Pennsylvania, Randy Kuhl and James Walsh of New York, Jo Ann Emerson of Missouri, Timothy Johnson of Illinois, Fred Upton of Michigan and Michael Castle of Delaware.

English's spokeswoman, Julia Wanzco, fired back.

"The congressman has long stated that he is for a political settlement not a surge, and at the end of the day, these ads are more about cheap Democratic political stunts than about solving the actual problem," she said.

[chefmike]

Have you noticed how the neo-con chickenhawks, and their apologists, have replaced 'islamofascist' with 'capitulation' as their latest buzzword?

This yet another desperate attempt at diverting attention from the real problems that BushInc have spawned in Iraq and the US.

[Quinn]

Have you noticed how the neo-con chickenhawks, and their apologists, have replaced 'islamofascist' with 'capitulation' as their latest buzzword?

This yet another desperate attempt at diverting attention from the real problems that BushInc have spawned in Iraq and the US.

LOL.... It's what want wits do when they can't accept reality. We are loosing in Iraq because this administration has shown nothing buy gross incompetence at every stage. When 71% of military families – traditionally a very Republican constituency – say that the war is being mismanaged, you know we’re in trouble.

It gets even worse when you look at polling data (great articles have appeared in the Military Times and Stars and Stripes that shows how the overwhelming majority of military personnel – and personnel serving in Iraq in particular – disapprove of Bush’s handling of the war. Ouch!!!

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[chefmike]

Being a former swabbie, I'm very happy that senators Webb and Warner are speaking out against the fiasco in Iraq, as both have held the position of Secretary of the Navy in the past.

[Quinn]

Couldn't agree more. At this point, all were doing is wasting money we can't afford to spend, weakening our deterrent capability against potentially formidable adversaries, and strengthening Iran's already winning hand.

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[svenson]

americans and foreign persons see truth now. very few dumb persons dont. all others do.

[Quinn]

The evidence is quite overwhelming at this point.

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[chefmike]

More on this:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jon-so...h_b_48428.html

[svenson]

More on this:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jon-so...h_b_48428.html

a good link