just an opinion on banning

[novaboi]

I've never posted here before, I'm not sure how much weight my opinion carries but i wanted to weigh in on all of this kelly talk. I'm not sure what kelly did is really worth banning her, I‘m not even sure of what all happened. But tsntx had this to say on the forum
"i didnt even read half of what you wrote and i DONT need to... i saw the "ban kelly thread" and was going to comment on it AFTER i read the 10 NEW pages on this one... i WAS going to say i didnt think YOU needed to banned just put on a warning of some sort... but for you to call me out and just rag and rant on me when i have NEVER done that to you? FUCK YOU YOU STUPID, SELF ABSORBED, UGLY, GRANDMA DEATH LOOKING LIL CROSSDRESSER!!
i said VERY clearly that ill call BS out when i see it.. THOSE TITS ARE PAINTED ON! the ones YOUR IGNORANT lil self are trying to use w/ blackmagic "against" me CAME FROM BEFORE I TRANSITIONED!! YOURE A FUCKING MORON AND IF ONE OF YOUR "HOT" CLIENTS PUSHES YOU OUT OF A 4TH STORY WINDOW THE AUTHORITIES SHOULD CONTACT ME FIRST AS ILL GLADLY SHOW THE BLOOD ON MY HANDS. YOU FUCKING HALF-WIT... run back to monicas side/ site ...

WE DONT WANT YOU HERE ANYMORE" Someone else on the same forum told kelly to go kill herself. I personally find those kind of words very disturbing. In my mind wishing death on someone on this forum, or wanting gladly wanting to be partly responsible for a persons death are much worse than someone telling a lie ( in my opinion a rather small one )
I don't decide who gets banned on here, nor do I want to. I don't necessarily think any of the 3 people i've mentioned should be banned at all. But I do think wishing death on someone is much more grievous than telling a lie.
Also not that what I think matters so much on this forum, but I think all the attacking of appearances should die down as well. Kelly I have seen you do this as well like Jen and Vicky, maybe it's a defense mechanism for some of you I don't know. I too am guilty of this, in the 5th grade I made fun of a girl for being fat, i wrote on the board Erica is fat and got stuck under the desk, to this day I feel terrible for that. But I think the world would be a much better place if perhaps we learned to look a little more inward for beauty then outward. People come in all different shapes and sizes, I know this is just an online forum and we're all hiding behind screens in a way, it's the nature of the internet, but words can hurt. Sometimes peoples can be quite self conscious of their looks, I know I was growing up, and it affected me a lot. I'm rambling here a bit I guess, but if we're going to be banning things around here lets start by banning people telling others to go kill themselves. I know debates get heated, by how would you all really feel if you found out, someone you had told to do such act actually went out and did that? Or if you found out you played some role in a person going over the edge and killing a bunch of people, like the tech shooter did. Just to note i'm not saying that justifies killing a bunch of people. But I do think the world would be much better off if we learned to respect people a lot more.
I would hope this forum could turn into a positive discussion. And to tstnx i'm sorry if you felt i was just spot lighting you, i didn't mean to, i just couldn't remember the name of the other poster, the one who told her to go kill herself. And I will add that you probably didn't actually mean what you wrote there. So I hope you don't take offense at what I said.

[novaboi]

correction I have posted here twice apparently, forgot about the first time.

[yodajazz]

I for one agree with what you say, from what I could understand. Some of the girls (women) here get so bent out of shape from a perceived insult. They counter attack in the most vicious language.

But practically every girl posting to this forum has boat loads of admirers here, who would do anything for them. They also have plenty of actual and potential support from the other trans women here. There are some basic insecurities behind these beautiful women, just like the rest of us.

Welcome here. You seem to be a thoughtful person. This is not always appreciated but you can learn a lot here.

[TJ347]

I'm new to the forum, but have already found it full of people who think that because they have 5,000 posts, they have more of a right to have an opinion than you do. I've also found from reading different threads that many of the girls seem to have a chip on their shoulder, or "diva" complex, likely because of the incessant fawning of fans here who desperately try to curry favor with them. I think it's sad that if I say, for instance, Jessica Host is the hottest thing out there, a 52 year old man in Minnesota sees fit to call me an "idiot newbie" and such, simply because he's convinced Vo D'Balm is where it's at. If some folks here had their way, I suspect any newcomer who didn't lavish praise on Allanah and Vicki would be banned immediately, as if those people didn't have a right to their opinion because they weren't one of the fifty founding members. Mind you, I have no problem with Allanah or Vicki, I'm just making a point based on what I've experienced here so far. But such is the world we live in... Why should HungAngels be any different really?

[suckseed]

I think I'm personally not inclined to say anything else...it's gotten boring, and no one's mind is being changed about anything. I'm guilty of being judgmental, and jumping into a thread with a full tank in my flamethrower. I try not to do that anymore.

To make a couple of observations...and they are my own, I don't care to have to defend them...I think it's a shame that Kelly ever felt the need to use fake pics or facts. She's cute...probably cuter than she thinks, or she wouldn't have used them. She's going with the 'I did it for Matt' story, but obviously it's happened before. She doesn't believe in herself enough yet. But I'm not going to throw her under the Ban Bus for that. I honestly feel bad for the kid. On the other hand, bashing Vicki's looks is just silly. She's obviously a great looking lady with a banging career to prove it. She's the first and still the only pornstar I've ever shared personal information with, and she's always been cool to me and funny and patient when I've shared something.
See, I like Arianna, Crayons (if that's really a woman!), Julie, Harajuku, Felicia...almost every woman here has been cool to interact with. But the fighting, while entertaining...well no one looks great when everyone's chucking shit into the fan.

The thing is, to quote Dolores Cleighborn, "Sometimes being a bitch is all a woman has to hold on to." Women are SOOO sensitive about their looks.
Every girlfriend I've ever had sees only her flaws...it gets really old reassuring them. We guys may be blockheads at times, but I think in general we're a lot better at blowing off disagreements, and can you imagine if guys got into flame wars centered on their looks? Haha...'Oh yeah, well you have a roman nose and your butt is fat!' Christ they'd be laughed out of the room. It's fucking irrelevant to the discussion at hand.

[NYCe]

Most of the Kellygate posts will soon be deleted or locked.

[hwbs]

AMEN ............

[suckseed]

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[MacShreach]

Most of the Kellygate posts will soon be deleted or locked.

[tsntx]

I've never posted here before, I'm not sure how much weight my opinion carries but i wanted to weigh in on all of this kelly talk. I'm not sure what kelly did is really worth banning her, I‘m not even sure of what all happened. But tsntx had this to say on the forum
"i didnt even read half of what you wrote and i DONT need to... i saw the "ban kelly thread" and was going to comment on it AFTER i read the 10 NEW pages on this one... i WAS going to say i didnt think YOU needed to banned just put on a warning of some sort... but for you to call me out and just rag and rant on me when i have NEVER done that to you? FUCK YOU YOU STUPID, SELF ABSORBED, UGLY, GRANDMA DEATH LOOKING LIL CROSSDRESSER!!
i said VERY clearly that ill call BS out when i see it.. THOSE TITS ARE PAINTED ON! the ones YOUR IGNORANT lil self are trying to use w/ blackmagic "against" me CAME FROM BEFORE I TRANSITIONED!! YOURE A FUCKING MORON AND IF ONE OF YOUR "HOT" CLIENTS PUSHES YOU OUT OF A 4TH STORY WINDOW THE AUTHORITIES SHOULD CONTACT ME FIRST AS ILL GLADLY SHOW THE BLOOD ON MY HANDS. YOU FUCKING HALF-WIT... run back to monicas side/ site ...

WE DONT WANT YOU HERE ANYMORE" Someone else on the same forum told kelly to go kill herself. I personally find those kind of words very disturbing. In my mind wishing death on someone on this forum, or wanting gladly wanting to be partly responsible for a persons death are much worse than someone telling a lie ( in my opinion a rather small one )
I don't decide who gets banned on here, nor do I want to. I don't necessarily think any of the 3 people i've mentioned should be banned at all. But I do think wishing death on someone is much more grievous than telling a lie.
Also not that what I think matters so much on this forum, but I think all the attacking of appearances should die down as well. Kelly I have seen you do this as well like Jen and Vicky, maybe it's a defense mechanism for some of you I don't know. I too am guilty of this, in the 5th grade I made fun of a girl for being fat, i wrote on the board Erica is fat and got stuck under the desk, to this day I feel terrible for that. But I think the world would be a much better place if perhaps we learned to look a little more inward for beauty then outward. People come in all different shapes and sizes, I know this is just an online forum and we're all hiding behind screens in a way, it's the nature of the internet, but words can hurt. Sometimes peoples can be quite self conscious of their looks, I know I was growing up, and it affected me a lot. I'm rambling here a bit I guess, but if we're going to be banning things around here lets start by banning people telling others to go kill themselves. I know debates get heated, by how would you all really feel if you found out, someone you had told to do such act actually went out and did that? Or if you found out you played some role in a person going over the edge and killing a bunch of people, like the tech shooter did. Just to note i'm not saying that justifies killing a bunch of people. But I do think the world would be much better off if we learned to respect people a lot more.
I would hope this forum could turn into a positive discussion. And to tstnx i'm sorry if you felt i was just spot lighting you, i didn't mean to, i just couldn't remember the name of the other poster, the one who told her to go kill herself. And I will add that you probably didn't actually mean what you wrote there. So I hope you don't take offense at what I said.

well if you didnt keep up then you should stfu. hows that sweetheart? you didnt want to read the 3500+ posts w/ her ranting and raving and using personal attacks on me when i wasnt ever attacking the dumb broad. do you REALLY think i give a flying fuck if she/he uses fake pics? NO. thats her fucking biz. but DONT try to insult MY intelligence and say "the sky is blue in this pic" while holding a pic of a BLACK star-y night! like i told the wench. im on the side of truth and not on the side of BULLSHIT. she chose to keep to the side of BS thus putting her against me by her own will. if you DONT know the whole truth on something or just have an opion of something that hasnt involved you... STFU.