What is a 'tranny chaser'?

[peggygee]

when a gir likes u , ur her husband...when its over u are a chaser, lmao

That's hot.

[eze]

I'd have to say that the article is heavily biased against any male who is attracted to a tgirl. I never considered myself a tranny chaser, as I'm not out to only get sex. I have no problem admitting that she has a cock, or that I like to let my partner have the dominant role from time to time. I'm not homosexual, straight, or bisexual. I am what I am. I refuse to use gender or sexual organs to decide wether I am attracted to someone.
I guess I got off on a tangent there. Back on topic, I feel that the article is heavily biased and ignorant. I was originally going to quote some of the ignorant statements, but there's simply too many.

I do however think that this could spart an interesting conversation.

I have to agree 100%
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Although I am still young and would need to tell my parents, being in a relationship with a tgirl would help the understanding of it all. I dont seek Tgirls for pure sexual pleasure, although my first experiences may be like that, I would considering just having a relationship with a girl or tgirl. It doesn't matter. I dont call myself gay or bi, or straight, I am what I am. Although I guess you can say, I find the more "passable girls" attractive then I do the non passable ones, but then I can say, these are the types of tgirls I like, everyone in this world in beautiful in one way or another, even if I find them not attractive someone else will. So to label nearly any guy as a tranny chaser is wrong.

We live in a society where being "gay" is wrong. So you have to understand and deal with men who just want to live out a fantasy.

[MacShreach]

Hi Peggy, nice to meet you and I see you have another of your thought-provokers there.

IIRC that site has been around a long while--two years at least--but frequently goes tits-up when its bandwidth gets overloaded--probably whenever someone posts a link to it on sites like this.

Although its tone is excessively shrill and defensive I basically think the article is on the money and reflects the attitude of a significant number of men who post here. They are indeed seeking to be sodomised and dominated by a person with a uniquely male characteristic, a dick, without ever having to admit that they are as queer as nine-bob notes.

However there are also men here who freely admit they are either gay or bisexual and seem to be relaxed with it. I do take some contention with the notion that "tranny chasers" as defined in the article are automatically psychopathic and will go on to become sex criminals; for most men this whole thing never gets past the fantasy stage. Nevertheless I do think such men would have to be treated with great caution, especially by any transsexual woman they were sexually involved with.

I think transsexual women are often in a very lonely position, particularly if they are pre-op, especially when they encounter men who do not want to practise sex that reinforces their femininity-- ie they want to be buggered by them. It is clear that pre-op escorts frequently lie to their customers; a significant number will only perform acts of penetration for money and if asked privately and anonymously in the context of a journalistic interview will say they do it for cash but they would never do it in love. When these girls go post-op they often, unsurprisingly, steer well clear of the type of men who were formerly their clients.

However there is still the issue to be dealt with, for the post-op woman, that at least for the foreseeable future, a man having a relationship with such al woman voluntarily foregoes one of the biggest reinforcements of maleness there is, fatherhood, unless the man is older and has already achieved this.

Furthermore the language used amongst such men and current on sites like this, terms such as "topping" and "bottoming" are straight out of the gay lexicon. I never, ever heard a genetic woman describe herself or even be described as "a bottom" (although it is possible that within the lesbian world there are usages I don't know about.) Why therefore would a transsexual woman want to have such terms applied to her? She is a woman, and words like "top" and "bottom" in this context are part of gay male language.

It is also very clear that a good many "transsexuals" working in the sex industry are not women at all but simply gay men who have adopted the garb of femininity to the extent of changing their bodies. Naturally the business of gay sex with other men is not an issue for them. I must admit this was something I was really unprepared for when I began looking into this area closely. I can understand why genuinely transsexual woman want to distance themselves from people like that, although often I find the tone used by some transsexual women is too strident. Gender and sexuality are very broad churches and there is no black and white, only shades of grey. Whatever turns you on turns you on and nobody should be judgemental about consensual sex acts.

However, having said all that, there are clearly also pre-op TS women who are genuinely women who do like to use their penises in a penetrative manner yet who are determined to have GRS as soon as they can afford it. I believe this is an extention of role-play in that, as women, they are turned on by their unique ability to transform themselves from the female, penetrated, role to the male penetrating role. That must be a pretty powerful sexual hit, and indeed I have spoken to several girls who have said exactly that.

I am personally quite boring sexually, though I try hard to make it entertaining (I am a man who likes to penetrate women) but I think I can see how it might be that some men--often quite powerful, dominant men--might be turned on by being forcefully taken. I can also see how such a man might be thilled by this but unable, because of his normal dominance, to do it with someone he identified as another man. Enter the TS. Nadia has made some good comments on this recently.

Unfortunately, and to return to the article, the problem with this is that the woman is objectified-- she just becomes whatever pretty shape is pushing the penis, and judging by some of the views routinely expressed here, she doesn't have to be that pretty, as long as the dick is up to the task.

I think it's tough enough for genetic women to deal with that kind of objectification and they at least have a few real anchor-points to hold on to; for a transsexual woman, particularly a pre-op, this must be quite difficult; after all they are trying to establish a self-identity that in general society does not want them to have and also have to literally fight their bodies to get there.

It's a shame because in fact some women who have become women, whether or not they retain the elements of their anatomy that are in question here, are amongst the smartest, most fascinating, strong and genuinely funny women, for that matter people, I have ever met or communicated with. I guess you just don't go through all that stuff without developing strength of character.

Now I do realise that there will be indignant howls of pique from the knob-jockeys who will cry that this is retrograde, that the world has no need of definitions like "gay" or "straight," and to an extent I sympathise with them. But that's just cause I'm a sympathetic person and having to take a cold hard reality check can be tough.

[Kriss]

when a gir likes u , ur her husband...when its over u are a chaser, lmao

oops , nearly forgot....

opcorn

[Ecstatic]

Tranny Chasers are men who want to pursue homosexual acts without dealing with another man dominating them. They fetishize transgender women-particularly the penis. That’s why there are few, if any, websites devoted to post-op transsexual women.

Tranny Chasers generally come in three basic categories—I know this is oversimplification, but it works in the short run. They all share one common denominator: they all want to explore homosexual relations and perform the ‘bottom’ role.

This is definitely oversimplification. While there are definitely elements of truth here, it sounds like the author was mad at someone or more likely generalized a series of experiences and observations of forums like this. That these three types exist, I don't doubt, but I think other types exist as well. Here's a statement made in another forum:

Trannychaser is a term used for people interested in a subsection of paraphilia regarding transsexuals. In general, a trannychaser is someone who is attracted to male-to-female transsexuals (although some 'chasers find female-to-males equally as attractive) solely on the grounds that the individual is transsexual.

What is paraphilia?

A paraphilia is a condition in which a person's sexual arousal and gratification depend on fantasizing about and engaging in sexual behavior that is atypical and extreme. A paraphilia can revolve around a particular object (e.g., children, animals, underwear) or around a particular act (e.g.,inflicting pain, exposing oneself). - http://health.discovery.com/centers/...araphilia.html

However, note that a paraphilic condition is one in which gratification depends upon the extreme sexual fantasy, fixation or situation. Not all men who are attracted to m2f transsexuals (or even only to pre-op transsexuals) are paraphilic; some are, and some are not.

This piece does however illustrate why I'm only slightly more comfortable with the term "admirer" than I am with "tranny chaser": neither represents the truth and depth of my attraction, though one is less insulting (both to myself and to those to whom I am attracted).

Hey MacS, how's by you? Long time, my friend!

[TJT]

I don't want to be buggered by anyone. Hell,I dread my annual prostate exam and thats just a finger?

I think you're right though. It's psychologically safe way for a lot of guys to deal with bi and gay tendencies they may not want to face.

"There's a dick down there but she looks like a girl,so it doesn't count?" "

"BTW,I always wanted to.... uh.....could you put that in there?"

[sucka4chix]

That article has about as much validity as a survey done by the cigarette makers on the dangers of smoking! Or an article about homosexuality written by Tim Hardaway. Way way way off the mark. I'm pretty laid back, and I don't stir up alot of sh*t, but in the words of DMX, "y'all gon' make me lose my mind up in here!!" I'm gonna start callin' bullshit bullshit, and that's some dark brown been constipated for days BULLSHIT!

[lahabra1976]

"There's a dick down there but she looks like a girl,so it doesn't count?" "

Well I think this is where the worlds definition of gay,straight,bissexual is messed up. They think by being with someone who looks like a girl and has a penis means you like men. They think your interest is defined by the sexual organ/parts and that is all that matters.

Well I tell you what I love breast, but just cause a woman has big breast and a ugly face doesn't mean I have an interest in her. I love nice butts, but just cause a woman has a nice butt and a ugly face doesn't mean I want to be with her.

Point is the interest a person has in someone isn't simply defined by sexual organs, its much more than that. I think someone who loves transexuals has no problem admitting the girl he is with has a penis. Its right there its not like you can ignore it, especially the big ones But there is the beauty and the breast and the butt, personality...That attract him also.

So it is absolutely wrong to believe that just cause a man likes being with a transexual that has a penis means that he likes men also cause he may not like the look of men's faces in terms of beauty and the fact they have no breast, etc.

[yodajazz]

[Sticks head above parapet]

Matchbox psychology has a lot to answer for!

The bitter rantings of someone who's just found out she has parity with the minge sisters.

Tranny chasers - There's no big secret, no ulterior motive, no dark design - It' pure, it's simple...It's sex!

If a girl needs some elaborate man-hating construct to make her feel better after she's just found out she's been used, then more power to her, she's just found out what it's like to be a gg [they've been doing it for years]; But, it doesn't change the reality. That for the majority of tranny chasers...It's just sex.

Like the saying goes, All men are bastards

Some grow out of it, some don't.

I agree with this. And the problem is that the article seems to put down every one who would be attracted to them sexually. However, sexual attraction is a part of many very good relationships.

The article over simplified by placing almost all into three categories. And then went on to over simplify within the categories it defined. Over simplification can be worse than nothing at all because it paints a false picture.

I believe that the site is down completely. I remember reading it a couple of years ago. I was incensed and wrote the site. We exchanged maybe three mails. My correspondent did admit that it was not that bad that someone would want to please them sexually.

Over all I agree with most of the responses to this thread. Thanks again Peggy for bringing it up.

[TSChaser]

I didn't pick this nickname, it's what some of the tgirls I know jokingly call me, so I went with it.

I have to agree with those on the side of "oversimplification", I don't fit into any of the described categories.

Interesting article though; excellent topic.

TSChaser