Post-Op Pics

**johnnyshemalelover** · 06-25-2007

Originally Posted by Silvester

Hey Johny, I'm with you on this. I just find these pics scattered amongst the TGP's while I'm searching 4 pics for good looking passable trannies. I, like you, have never seen a real post-op pussy. I suppose the problem is that us guys assume on here that all TS's b4 getting SRS were into being photod pre-op. I suppose since most TS's who have no contact with the erotica biz get SRS, the last thing on their mind is getting a photo of it taken for all to see, they just slowly dissolve into society full time as a woman. The other problem is that a post-op TS could just show photo of her pussy which looks good, and we accuse her of posting a fake pic, and ask to show her face, or pics of herself pre-op. These pics are scary, and no doubt a lot of TS's on here have looked at these pics and cringed, but there seems to be a poor lack of communication amongst TS's concerning this matter, and what the final result will look like. Then again, as Im drunk, I could be talking bullshit...

LOL no, I agree... Since I have never seen any post-op pussies myself, I'll have to take the words of the people who have, and assume that the almost all the post-ops who love to pose for the camera just happen to be ones whose surgeries went badly. As I did mention though, I have seen two photos here that looked passable, so I know it can be done.

**johnnyshemalelover** · 06-25-2007

[quote="peggygee"]

Originally Posted by johnnyshemalelover

I'm not saying these photos are typical post-op vaginas,

I don't know what a typical post-op vag looks like.

Originally Posted by peggygee

Basically find the information to support your position, and to refute
mine.

Allow me to paraphrase our conversation to date:

Me: I'm not saying all post-op vaginas look bad, I just want to know why almost all the photos I see of post-ops are bad ones.

You: You're wrong. Post-op vaginas don't look bad, they look good.

Me: I'm not saying they don't, I'm just asking why almost all the photos I see of post-ops are bad ones.

You: You're wrong. Post-op vaginas don't look bad, they look good.

Me: Ok, fine. I don't know what typical post-ops look like, and I'm assuming you're right (that they look good) because you obviously know a hell of a lot more about this than I do, since I've never even seen one. All I want to know is why all the photos I see are of bad ones.

You: You're wrong. Post-op vaginas don't look bad, they look good. If you still think they don't, then prove it.

Look, I don't doubt what you're telling me. I have no experience here and you have a lot. You clearly have very high intelligence as well, and I mean that sincerely.

Being an intelligent, educated and rational person doesn't mean you never have feelings, of course. The problem with feelings is that when they're strong, they can interfere with perception which of course leads to communication difficulties.

Everyone has at least one thing they're so passionate about they forget reason. I have lots of them myself. I am guessing you're hurt, frustrated, sick and fed up with attacks from guys who get offended by GRS and react by insulting the result; and that's the sore spot which I am inadvertently pressing on here.

You're still lumping me in with all the people who are pissed at post-ops for getting their penises lopped off so they try to say all post-op vaginas look horrible. I've explained it to you several times that this isn't what I'm saying, but I can't get through the storm of emotion that surrounds you on this issue. You simply refuse to hear me. If that's the way you need to handle the issue, ok then.

I no longer expect an answer and I've lost interest in getting one.

I hope I haven't offended you.

LG · 06-25-2007

If I can end this long, tedious misunderstanding once and for all, here is a link from Lynn Conway's site, complete with many pictures of post of vaginas performed by the now retired Eugene Schrang who performed over 900 SRS procedures (and yes, the vaginas in the photos do look pretty good).
http://ai.eecs.umich.edu/people/conway/TS/SRS.html

See also Dr Suporn's site:
http://www.supornclinic.com/
http://www.chet-plasticsurgery.com/Srs_result.html

For a listing of surgeons (for the girls):
http://www.tsroadmap.com/physical/vaginoplasty/

To compare photos of vaginoplasties performed by different surgeons:
http://www.annelawrence.com/srsindex.html

And for some rather upsetting photos and videos of the procedure (not for the squeamish):
http://srs-resources.info/srs%20imag...%20videos.html

I believe the debate is now over. Thank you.

**peggygee** · 06-25-2007

[quote="johnnyshemalelover"]

Originally Posted by peggygee

Originally Posted by johnnyshemalelover

I'm not saying these photos are typical post-op vaginas,

I don't know what a typical post-op vag looks like.

Originally Posted by peggygee

Basically find the information to support your position, and to refute
mine.

Allow me to paraphrase our conversation to date:

Me: I'm not saying all post-op vaginas look bad, I just want to know why almost all the photos I see of post-ops are bad ones.

You: You're wrong. Post-op vaginas don't look bad, they look good.

Me: I'm not saying they don't, I'm just asking why almost all the photos I see of post-ops are bad ones.

You: You're wrong. Post-op vaginas don't look bad, they look good.

Me: Ok, fine. I don't know what typical post-ops look like, and I'm assuming you're right (that they look good) because you obviously know a hell of a lot more about this than I do, since I've never even seen one. All I want to know is why all the photos I see are of bad ones.

You: You're wrong. Post-op vaginas don't look bad, they look good. If you still think they don't, then prove it.

Look, I don't doubt what you're telling me. I have no experience here and you have a lot. You clearly have very high intelligence as well, and I mean that sincerely.

Being an intelligent, educated and rational person doesn't mean you never have feelings, of course. The problem with feelings is that when they're strong, they can interfere with perception which of course leads to communication difficulties.

Everyone has at least one thing they're so passionate about they forget reason. I have lots of them myself. I am guessing you're hurt, frustrated, sick and fed up with attacks from guys who get offended by GRS and react by insulting the result; and that's the sore spot which I am inadvertently pressing on here.

You're still lumping me in with all the people who are pissed at post-ops for getting their penises lopped off so they try to say all post-op vaginas look horrible. I've explained it to you several times that this isn't what I'm saying, but I can't get through the storm of emotion that surrounds you on this issue. You simply refuse to hear me. If that's the way you need to handle the issue, ok then.

I no longer expect an answer and I've lost interest in getting one.

I hope I haven't offended you.

Johnny, thanks for your thoughts.

You are right to a large extent that the constant attack on post ops has
me somewhat defensive.

From your initial posts, I thought that you were yet another one on the
attack.

What hurt even more so, was that I didn't initially perceive you as a
threat. You struck me as a decent, amicable, likable fellow.

And that's even with a name like 'johnny shemalelover', which if you've
read any of my numerous posts on the topic is also a sore spot.

And because you struck me as a decent guy, I let my guard down a bit.
It was while letting my guard down that you began your line of
questioning, and I felt like I had been suckerd by the rope-a-dope.

Admittedly, I didn't think you were sincere about your concern for post
ops, because I am ass-u-med that you were like many of he men
here who are cock-centric and who become very testy when their object
of affection has been taken away from them.

To answer your question, you can go to any of the sites of the many
surgeons who perform SRS, and view their work.

And there are post op websites and forums, some run by women, most
of a non porn nature.

Before I close, I do want to address the lingering question why don't more
post op women show off their vaginas.

There are of course many post op women who remain in the
transcommunity, or the industry for a variety of reasons.

But after yearning and struggling all of your life to be the women that you
knew you were, and now you are legally, aesthetically, and for thw most
part functionally that woman.

Well then...you are on the first train or plane out of trannyville.

And most don't come back.

**peggygee** · 06-25-2007

Thanks LG for your post, you must have made it just as I was typing
my response.

Those are good links, and should allow those that would like to
peruse the pussy to do so.

There are a few surgeons that are missing, and of course the forums
and websites that I alluded to aren't there.

It has been posited that there are 30,000 - 40,000 post op transwomen in
America, seems like you would have a better chance seeing Bigfoot
than a post op. http://www.hungangels.com/board/view...=12755&start=0

Maybe that's cause us gyno-Americans, don't particularly want to be found.

**muhmuh** · 06-25-2007

Originally Posted by LG

...

hm from a quick look at the pics it would seem like the clitoral hood and the labia minora are more or less absent in op results
is that observation of mine correct?

**youcancallmeclaire** · 06-25-2007

Another flaw that annoys me about srs results is that some surgeons make the labia minora dive directly into the opening of the vaginal canal rather than partially circle the outer rim of it, which I've only seen maybe once on a natal vagina.
And the labia minora are too small or missing completely.
If I get srs, I want something substantial enough to pierce down there.

That, and I just like big flappy labia. lol

**Rod la Rod** · 06-26-2007

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