Are you guys into Shemales only or do you go for TVs and CDs

[Coroner]

I never thought this would be an issue here. Why am I here? I want to get in touch with a world I don´t have access to in real life. I don´t know anybody I could talk to about this even my sister but I never tried to. I´m here because my attraction to Transsexual women, not guys in women´s dresses. And I thought this is supposed to be a board for those who love Transsexual women and that CD/TV category is more a gay topic because they´re nothing than guys who dress as women and live in double roles. That´s respectless to the transwomen that feel like women and live like women.

Trisexual is not into guys but into guys with wigs and their mother´s clothes. Wtf is this supposed to mean? I mean, where´s the difference? If somebody of the guys here dresses as a woman for fun or a costume party, you´d jerk off and say that you´re not into guys...... huh??

[trisexual]

I never thought this would be an issue here. Why am I here? I want to get in touch with a world I don´t have access to in real life. I don´t know anybody I could talk to about this even my sister but I never tried to. I´m here because my attraction to Transsexual women, not guys in women´s dresses. And I thought this is supposed to be a board for those who love Transsexual women and that CD/TV category is more a gay topic because they´re nothing than guys who dress as women and live in double roles. That´s respectless to the transwomen that feel like women and live like women.

Trisexual is not into guys but into guys with wigs and their mother´s clothes. Wtf is this supposed to mean? I mean, where´s the difference? If somebody of the guys here dresses as a woman for fun or a costume party, you´d jerk off and say that you´re not into guys...... huh??

It's funny Coroner says that...last time I checked MtoF meant they were born male. And the last time I checked, how did a lot (not all) of TS get started? What, as CDs and TVs...oh wow. Guess you didn't know that.

And correct me if I 'm wrong but did I say I'd sleep with all CDs? Or even all transsexuals for that matter? Find where I said that. As far as males, no I do not find males attractive. Meaning you. Although you appear to act more feminine than masculine anyhow.

[francisfkudrow]

I see that it's time for our bi-monthly discussion
of appropriate terms to use in reference to transwomen.




Terms that will keep me off the soapbox :

You will not go wrong with these: women, ladies,
female, transwomen, transsexual, transgender, t-girl,
transperson.

Gender variant and gender dysphoric person are okay but sound
very clinical. TS and TG also are acceptable as abbreviations.

And just between you, me and the 10,000 other people reading
this, using any of the above terms will endear you to a trans -
woman quicker and more effectively than calling her a "she-male',
'he-she', 'shim', 'lady boy', tranny and the like, which are all
perjorative or deragatory terms created by the porn industry
for marketing purposes.

Whenever this debate reoccurs, it always strikes me as odd, that right there at the top of every page on this site is the phrase "10 Free Minutes of Shemale Video on Demand for HungAngels Members - Click Here".

If the term "shemale" is offensive (and I'm not saying it isn't), shouldn't the title this link be rephrased?

[Jennifer_English]

Personally I dont find the word shemale offensive at all...

Call me what ya like... I am ME

:O)

x

[Coroner]

I never thought this would be an issue here. Why am I here? I want to get in touch with a world I don´t have access to in real life. I don´t know anybody I could talk to about this even my sister but I never tried to. I´m here because my attraction to Transsexual women, not guys in women´s dresses. And I thought this is supposed to be a board for those who love Transsexual women and that CD/TV category is more a gay topic because they´re nothing than guys who dress as women and live in double roles. That´s respectless to the transwomen that feel like women and live like women.

Trisexual is not into guys but into guys with wigs and their mother´s clothes. Wtf is this supposed to mean? I mean, where´s the difference? If somebody of the guys here dresses as a woman for fun or a costume party, you´d jerk off and say that you´re not into guys...... huh??

It's funny Coroner says that...last time I checked MtoF meant they were born male. And the last time I checked, how did a lot (not all) of TS get started? What, as CDs and TVs...oh wow. Guess you didn't know that.

And correct me if I 'm wrong but did I say I'd sleep with all CDs? Or even all transsexuals for that matter? Find where I said that. As far as males, no I do not find males attractive. Meaning you. Although you appear to act more feminine than masculine anyhow.

I´ll forget the last you said, I don´t know where you get this from. You know, you have to make a thick (not dick) line between the CD-appearance and the CD identity. Transsexual people appear as CD´s in the early stage of the own identity discovery but they don´t dress vecause they just want to dress as women. They want to live as women because they feel that way.

You my friend are totally gay and what makes me appear more feminine? Is it my respect to TS-women as individuals? I´m not just jerking-off here. If showing understanding means being feminine, I don´t care but you don´t seem that you can deal with being gay. Don´t forget, I´m not the one who wants kiss someone with beard so watch out what terms you use for people you don´t know.

[MrsKellyPierce]

Coroner that was very well said. Being a transexual doesn't just deal with the outside but also the inside. Our brain tells us we are women. Even the ones that look like "Homer Simpson In A Wig" if they feel as a woman, They are a transexual first and foremost. They were never "crossdressers or transvestites" due to the fact being a crossdresser or transvestite has to deal more with pleasure and for a fun time. We transexuals live this as a lifestyle not on a weekend or to go to a club. And our brains certainly tell us we are female.


That is why it is offensive to be compared or even be called a crossdresser or transvestite.

[trisexual]

I never thought this would be an issue here. Why am I here? I want to get in touch with a world I don´t have access to in real life. I don´t know anybody I could talk to about this even my sister but I never tried to. I´m here because my attraction to Transsexual women, not guys in women´s dresses. And I thought this is supposed to be a board for those who love Transsexual women and that CD/TV category is more a gay topic because they´re nothing than guys who dress as women and live in double roles. That´s respectless to the transwomen that feel like women and live like women.

Trisexual is not into guys but into guys with wigs and their mother´s clothes. Wtf is this supposed to mean? I mean, where´s the difference? If somebody of the guys here dresses as a woman for fun or a costume party, you´d jerk off and say that you´re not into guys...... huh??

It's funny Coroner says that...last time I checked MtoF meant they were born male. And the last time I checked, how did a lot (not all) of TS get started? What, as CDs and TVs...oh wow. Guess you didn't know that.

And correct me if I 'm wrong but did I say I'd sleep with all CDs? Or even all transsexuals for that matter? Find where I said that. As far as males, no I do not find males attractive. Meaning you. Although you appear to act more feminine than masculine anyhow.

I´ll forget the last you said, I don´t where you get this from. You know, you have to make a thick (not dick) line between the CD-appearance and the CD identity. Transsexual people appear as CD´s in the early stage of the own identity discovery but they don´t dress vecause they just want to dress as women. They want to live as women because they feel that way.

You my friend are totally gay and what makes me appear more feminine? Is it my respect to TS-women as individuals? I´m not just jerking-off here. If showing understanding means being feminine, I don´t care but you don´t seem that you can deal with being gay. Don´t forget, I´m not the one who wants kiss someone with beard so watch out what terms you use for people you don´t know.

Who said anything about kissing someone with a beard? If you feel defined by borders than call me what you will. I like sex with people of all genders. You are the confused one, "respecting" penises and refusing to call yourself what you are, a transexual chaser. It's funny how if you look at the poll, I'm not the only one who likes PASSABLE TVs/CDs (is that enough clarity for you?). Just because I don't say what you wantto hear doesn't make me any less respectful of transsexuals. Did I call a TS a TV, no, becuase like you, I know and understand the difference. As far as being gay, what constitutes as being gay? You've slept with a female with a penis, you've sucked a penis...so tell me again, what makes you any different than I? SO you're gay if you get sucked off by a CD, but you're straight if it's by a TS? Or are you partially gay and not as you said "Totally gay"? Keep telling yourself that. Maybe you're the one who's CONFUSED.

Speaking of being disrepectful, you calling me "totally gay" is an insult to homosexuals. So it's ok to praise transsexuals but bash homosexuals? Tsk tsk.

Kelly Shore I neglected to think about that, so I thank you for your input. I was too hasty in responding.

[MrsKellyPierce]

I never thought this would be an issue here. Why am I here? I want to get in touch with a world I don´t have access to in real life. I don´t know anybody I could talk to about this even my sister but I never tried to. I´m here because my attraction to Transsexual women, not guys in women´s dresses. And I thought this is supposed to be a board for those who love Transsexual women and that CD/TV category is more a gay topic because they´re nothing than guys who dress as women and live in double roles. That´s respectless to the transwomen that feel like women and live like women.

Trisexual is not into guys but into guys with wigs and their mother´s clothes. Wtf is this supposed to mean? I mean, where´s the difference? If somebody of the guys here dresses as a woman for fun or a costume party, you´d jerk off and say that you´re not into guys...... huh??

It's funny Coroner says that...last time I checked MtoF meant they were born male. And the last time I checked, how did a lot (not all) of TS get started? What, as CDs and TVs...oh wow. Guess you didn't know that.

And correct me if I 'm wrong but did I say I'd sleep with all CDs? Or even all transsexuals for that matter? Find where I said that. As far as males, no I do not find males attractive. Meaning you. Although you appear to act more feminine than masculine anyhow.

I´ll forget the last you said, I don´t where you get this from. You know, you have to make a thick (not dick) line between the CD-appearance and the CD identity. Transsexual people appear as CD´s in the early stage of the own identity discovery but they don´t dress vecause they just want to dress as women. They want to live as women because they feel that way.

You my friend are totally gay and what makes me appear more feminine? Is it my respect to TS-women as individuals? I´m not just jerking-off here. If showing understanding means being feminine, I don´t care but you don´t seem that you can deal with being gay. Don´t forget, I´m not the one who wants kiss someone with beard so watch out what terms you use for people you don´t know.

Who said anything about kissing someone with a beard? If you feel defined by borders than call me what you will. I like sex with people of all genders. You are the confused one, "respecting" penises and refusing to call yourself what you are, a transexual chaser. It's funny how if you look at the poll, I'm not the only one who likes PASSABLE TVs/CDs (is that enough clarity for you?). Just because I don't say what you wantto hear doesn't make me any less respectful of transsexuals. Did I call a TS a TV, no, becuase like you, I know and understand the difference. As far as being gay, what constitutes as being gay? You've slept with a female with a penis, you've sucked a penis...so tell me again, what makes you any different than I? SO you're gay if you get sucked off by a CD, but you're straight if it's by a TS? Or are you partially gay and not as you said "Totally gay"? Keep telling yourself that. Maybe you're the one who's CONFUSED.

Speaking of being disrepectful, you calling me "totally gay" is an insult to homosexuals. So it's ok to praise transsexuals but bash homosexuals? Tsk tsk.

Kelly Shore I neglected to think about that, so I thank you for your input. I was too hasty in responding.

It's all good in the neighborhood lmao just putting my

[Coroner]

I never thought this would be an issue here. Why am I here? I want to get in touch with a world I don´t have access to in real life. I don´t know anybody I could talk to about this even my sister but I never tried to. I´m here because my attraction to Transsexual women, not guys in women´s dresses. And I thought this is supposed to be a board for those who love Transsexual women and that CD/TV category is more a gay topic because they´re nothing than guys who dress as women and live in double roles. That´s respectless to the transwomen that feel like women and live like women.

Trisexual is not into guys but into guys with wigs and their mother´s clothes. Wtf is this supposed to mean? I mean, where´s the difference? If somebody of the guys here dresses as a woman for fun or a costume party, you´d jerk off and say that you´re not into guys...... huh??

It's funny Coroner says that...last time I checked MtoF meant they were born male. And the last time I checked, how did a lot (not all) of TS get started? What, as CDs and TVs...oh wow. Guess you didn't know that.

And correct me if I 'm wrong but did I say I'd sleep with all CDs? Or even all transsexuals for that matter? Find where I said that. As far as males, no I do not find males attractive. Meaning you. Although you appear to act more feminine than masculine anyhow.

I´ll forget the last you said, I don´t where you get this from. You know, you have to make a thick (not dick) line between the CD-appearance and the CD identity. Transsexual people appear as CD´s in the early stage of the own identity discovery but they don´t dress vecause they just want to dress as women. They want to live as women because they feel that way.

You my friend are totally gay and what makes me appear more feminine? Is it my respect to TS-women as individuals? I´m not just jerking-off here. If showing understanding means being feminine, I don´t care but you don´t seem that you can deal with being gay. Don´t forget, I´m not the one who wants kiss someone with beard so watch out what terms you use for people you don´t know.

Who said anything about kissing someone with a beard? If you feel defined by borders than call me what you will. I like sex with people of all genders. You are the confused one, "respecting" penises and refusing to call yourself what you are, a transexual chaser. It's funny how if you look at the poll, I'm not the only one who likes PASSABLE TVs/CDs (is that enough clarity for you?). Just because I don't say what you wantto hear doesn't make me any less respectful of transsexuals. Did I call a TS a TV, no, becuase like you, I know and understand the difference. As far as being gay, what constitutes as being gay? You've slept with a female with a penis, you've sucked a penis...so tell me again, what makes you any different than I? SO you're gay if you get sucked off by a CD, but you're straight if it's by a TS? Or are you partially gay and not as you said "Totally gay"? Keep telling yourself that. Maybe you're the one who's CONFUSED.

Speaking of being disrepectful, you calling me "totally gay" is an insult to homosexuals. So it's ok to praise transsexuals but bash homosexuals? Tsk tsk.

Kelly Shore I neglected to think about that, so I thank you for your input. I was too hasty in responding.

It´s not ok to bash homosexuals and I´m not doing this. Maybe I didn´t express myself the way I wanted to because English is my third language. I also don´t like and don´t recognize that sexual categories, because nobody´s 100 % straight or gay. Sexuality is too complex to be divided into exact categories. I didn´t say ur the only one into TV´s/CD´s, I took an example on you because you started the thread. I respect your open-minded view on sexuality but don´t understand the point that ur into CD´s who are in fact men with wigs, nothing more but not into men? A TS woman is not someone with a wig who is a man during the day and a "woman" at night. If someone for example dresses as a bear at a costume-party that doesn´t make him a bear nor does he feel like a bear.

I never fucked a transsexual woman but I would. I don´t think I´d suck her cock but I´m attracted to her with a cock because there would be no point for being here or jerking-off on T-girls pics. But I´m attracted to the whole T-girl, not just the cock. I don´t want a man and I´m not confused. What we are can´t be really defined. Being gay is reserved because a gay male is a man who´s into men and cock is not all that makes you a man.

All I wanted from you is to explain the difference between being into a man with a wig and a women dress but not into the "usual" man?

[peggygee]

I see that it's time for our bi-monthly discussion
of appropriate terms to use in reference to transwomen.




Terms that will keep me off the soapbox :

You will not go wrong with these: women, ladies,
female, transwomen, transsexual, transgender, t-girl,
transperson.

Gender variant and gender dysphoric person are okay but sound
very clinical. TS and TG also are acceptable as abbreviations.

And just between you, me and the 10,000 other people reading
this, using any of the above terms will endear you to a trans -
woman quicker and more effectively than calling her a "she-male',
'he-she', 'shim', 'lady boy', tranny and the like, which are all
perjorative or deragatory terms created by the porn industry
for marketing purposes.

Whenever this debate reoccurs, it always strikes me as odd, that right there at the top of every page on this site is the phrase "10 Free Minutes of Shemale Video on Demand for HungAngels Members - Click Here".

If the term "shemale" is offensive (and I'm not saying it isn't), shouldn't the title this link be rephrased?

As you have stated, when it re-occurs, we will have this discussion
yet again.

And without going on a long diatribe about it, I will put forth a few things
to ponder.

'IF', you and the majority of transsexuals say they are WOMEN, what
is the logic of having MALE anywhere in a term that is descriptive of
them. The same is true of the term LADYBOY, 'IF' they are WOMEN, then
they are WOMEN, period!

Why would a WOMEN who has sacrificed, fought, bled, struggled with
every fiber of her being want to hang on to vestiges of her past.

And 'If' she is not a WOMEN, then those of you that are lying with her
bedding down with her, in relationships with her, are lying with MEN,
and playing a very clever game of semantics and wordplay, in pursuit
of your sexual gratification.

Either, they are WOMEN, or TRANSWOMEN, if we are to be legally, and
biologically correct.

And Francis to answer your original question as has been stated, 'shemale'
is a marketing term created by the porn industry, some transwomen
are fine with it, others are not, much like the 'N' word amongst the
peple of my race.

I would say that the vast majority are not.