IRISH CAR BOMBS

[Paul]

arnie...look at that video yourself....that happened in the 80s....this is 20 years later and it's nothing like that.

[Jamie Michelle]

Well?

Persoanlly, I just had one a few minutes ago and it was ok. Not great, but a decent drink. Of course it helps that I'm celebrating St. Paddy's today...

Here's the background on the real "Irish" bombings:

"British double-agent was in Real IRA's Omagh bomb team," Neil Mackay and Louise Branson, Sunday Herald (U.K.), August 19, 2001 http://web.archive.org/web/200112301...rald.com/17827

"Ulster spies to 'blow MI5 cover,'" Rosie Cowan, Guardian (U.K.), July 6, 2002 http://www.guardian.co.uk/military/s...750427,00.html

"IRA torturer was in the Royal Marines: Top republican terrorist exposed in court documents as a special forces soldier," Neil Mackay, Sunday Herald (U.K.), December 15, 2002 http://web.archive.org/web/200212220...rald.com/29997

"Top double agent in IRA guilty of 'up to 40 murders'," Irish Independent, May 12, 2003 http://web.archive.org/web/200305142...p?story=405475

"Focus: Scappaticci's past is secret no more--Liam Clarke reveals how he discovered the identity of the British Army's prize 'mole' but could not reveal it throughout four dangerous years," Sunday Times (U.K.), May 18, 2003 http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article...683795,00.html
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle1133402.ece
http://www.irishfreedomcommittee.net/NEWS/may_2003.htm

"The army asked me to make bombs for the IRA, told me I had the Prime Minister's blessing ... then tried to kill me; Exclusive: confessions of a secret agent turned terrorist," Neil Mackay, Sunday Herald (U.K.), June 23, 2002 http://web.archive.org/web/200206271...rald.com/25646

"Thatcher 'gave go-ahead for IRA assassinations,'" Neil Mackay, Sunday Herald (U.K.), June 23, 2002 http://web.archive.org/web/200206271...rald.com/25739

"MI5 'helped IRA buy bomb parts in US,'" Enda Leahy, Sunday Times (U.K.), March 19, 2006 http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article...092574,00.html

"The story of an unsung hero," Laurence White, Belfast Telegraph (Independent News and Media), August 9, 2006 http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/ne...p?story=701894
http://www.geocities.com/tetrahedron...nsung-hero.htm

"UK agents 'did have role in IRA bomb atrocities,'" Henry McDonald, The Observer (U.K.), September 10, 2006 http://observer.guardian.co.uk/polit...869019,00.html

"Her Majesty's Terrorist Network: Former IRA moles expose British Government sponsored terror," PrisonPlanet.com, September 21, 2006 http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles...hermajesty.htm

Alex Jones interviews Kevin Fulton and Martin Ingram, September 21, 2006 http://prisonplanet.tv/audio/210906fulton.mp3

Chapter 3, "British Intelligence: Her Majesty's Terrorist Network," in Order Out of Chaos: Elite Sponsored Terrorism & the New World Order by Paul Joseph Watson (Alex Jones Productions, 2003) http://www.infowars.com/pdfs/order_ch.PDF
http://sandiego.indymedia.org/media/2006/10/119693.pdf
http://www.amazon.com/dp/0974338109/

"Stakeknife Named: British double agent who murdered for the IRA" http://cryptome.org/fru-stakeknife.htm

[VIDEO] BBC Interviews Kevin Fulton http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsa/n5ctrl/pr...ulton10apr.ram

Stakeknife: Britain's Secret Agents in Ireland by Martin Ingram and Greg Harkin (University of Wisconsin Press, 2005) http://www.amazon.com/dp/0299210243/

"Explosive Art," Martin Ingram's Blog http://www.opertiondinnerout.blogspot.com

The below is an archive of mainstream major media news articles about how the British MI5/MI6 staged most of the IRA terrorism and supported al-Qaeda and Osama bin Laden:

http://www.prisonplanet.com/archive_mi5terror.html

[arnie666]

arnie...look at that video yourself....that happened in the 80s....this is 20 years later and it's nothing like that.

I'm just explaining what the 'cause' was all about.There was more to it than what was said. The reality of what that money bought. And why I found the drink so offensive.

No it's not like that now . And I hope we don't return to that.

[Jamie Michelle]

arnie...look at that video yourself....that happened in the 80s....this is 20 years later and it's nothing like that.

I'm just explaining what the 'cause' was all about.There was more to it than what was said. The reality of what that money bought. And why I found the drink so offensive.

No it's not like that now . And I hope we don't return to that.

Yes, I join with you in hoping that the British government doesn't choose to stage any more bombings to be blamed on Ireland in order to provide a pretext for further subjugating Ireland. But then, nowadays there wouldn't be much reason for that, as Ireland's subjugation under the British government is pretty complete.

[specialk]

[arnie666]

You know I think it's funny when Americans talk about British Army collusion with Loyalist paramilitries and NISB, MI5 links to the IRA when Irish Amerian politicians supported the IRA and republican movement.

Indeed I thought it hysterically funny when pres Clinton invited Specky twat over on St Patricks day when the IRA were blowing up half of London. Personally I wouldn't have the neck to mention it if I was a Yank but still.....

I looked at all your links some not all by the way as some failed (I have a crap internet browser) who wrote all that not specky twat was it?

Sure Iam not denying the fact there were two wars in NI one that was kep quiet and was rather nasty. The FRU did recruit the very same PIRA and INLA we were fighting on a daily basis.By recruiting the terrorists or close family members we had all kinds of intel on tap . E.g Marty McGartland a brillant man who prevented around fifty murders by PIRA.

We were in the basis of saving lives. What you have here are some named/ unamed individuals making allegations and threats against a former employer (the crown ) .Some may well be 'walting it up' and some may want more money . As I will admit the Armed forces do not take adequate care of people in particular those whose service had a profound affect on their lives.My point is it is not proven and you have jumped to conclusions. At least I am able to see that my 'side' are not blameless. Indeed I feel the loyalists who abducted and murdered random innocent Catholics are as repulsive as driving human bombs into Army checkpoints.

These men are being used by people with their own ends (such as yourself) for when faced with embarrasing incidents from your own side explain it away. 'Ah well those Brits blew themselves up'.They tend to do this when civvys get caught up in it. Often times when it is 'just' a soldier or a peeler they won't bother with that. I have heard all sorts of conspiracy theories such as the IRA and sinn vein were in fact so heavily infiltrated by British Intelligence that Specky and Mc guiness where both working for the Brits.Or that that the Garda worked in collusion with the IRA

Iam sure there were British Spies in sinn fein and the IRA. but the IRA did try to kill the British Government in the 80's brighton bomb.So I doubt there was high lvl Government involvement in 'false flag ops'. Oh and there is a 'shoot to kill policy' in NI .This can be proven by the shooting of Mcgartland in 1999. But ultimately it was about saving lives rather than killing .There were numerous moles in the IRA and they saved many lives. But you would rather focus on a few tragic incidents such as Omagh for your own ends. But still you seem to have a good audience here judging by the seeming 'slant' of this message board.

Oh and final point there is a huge moral difference between financing terrorism (Irish Americans) and getting involved in terrorist cells.Too in the long run save lives.

Is what Iam saying falling on deaf ears? probably.

Maybe you will take notice from this American rather than me about the significance of this drink....

http://www.dailynexus.com/article.php?a=13515

[Vicki Richter]

Arnie, aren't you the same guy who posted in another thread that you like girls to lick your unwashed shitty ass to degrade them?

[arnie666]

Arnie, aren't you the same guy who posted in another thread that you like girls to lick your unwashed shitty ass to degrade them?

Why are you into that? sorry I live in the UK so I don't think you can go to town on my arse. sorry..Lots of people find that spam funny ....

[chefmike]

On a slightly lighter(and much needed) note, the first Brit crime film that I ever saw was "The Long Good Friday", and I think that most will agree that it's a top-notch crime drama...and I thought that the way that the screenplay wove the IRA into this superb crime flick was riveting...and I'm speaking as a US citizen who has since seen most Brit and Australian crime flicks of note...

[Quinn]

A really great movie to be sure.

-Quinn