WHO HERE WANTS A REALTIONSHIP...REAL TIME....WITH A TS GIRL

[ONEWORLD]

...YOU SEEM TO KNOW A LOT...

THAT'S RIGHT...

THAT'S NOT YOU'RE IMAGINATION, I DO.

Why were the girls and her friends trying 2 convince you that you were GAY?

Maybe..u were sucking her cock..jerking her off..etc....etc...!

BECAUSE SO MANY MEN PORTRAY THAT STRAIGHT PERSONA BUT SECRETLY LIKE TO GET "YAKKED" THAT ONE OF MY X'S WAS ALWAYS WAITING FOR THAT SIDE TO COME OUT OF ME, AND IT NEVER DID & IT NEVER WILL...NOW AS FAR AS FRIENDS, NO MATTER WHO YOU DATE, A GIRL'S FRIENDS ARE ALWAYS GONNA TRY YOU, KNOCK YOU, AND SECOND GUESS YOUR EVERY DECISION...THAT PAR FOR THE COURSE...

A transsexual is man that feels like a woman inside!

So when a guy messes with a man...what does that make him?

BISEXUAL OR GAY not HETEREO

LET'S TRY THIS AGAIN.

A MAN THAT LOOKS AT ANOTHER MAN WITH LUST IS "GAY".

A MAN THAT LOOKS AT ANOTHER WOMAN WITH LUST IS "STRAIGHT".

A MAN THAT LOOKS AT A MAN THAT APPEARS TO BE WOMAN

WITH LUST IS "STRAIGHT."

THEREFORE TO TAKE THIS TO IT'S LOGICAL CONCLUSION, IF THE MAN

IN THE THIRD EXAMPLE HAS SEX WITH THE TG, THEN HE IS A STRAIGHT

BI-SEXUAL MAN...NOW, IF HE NEVER SEES THE PENIS, THEN IN MY

OPINION, HE'S STRAIGHT AND HETEROSEXUAL, THOUGH TECHNICALLY

IT IS A MAN HE'S HAVING SEX WITH.

[Reddman]

I concur with Mega on the 51% take especially as it relates to my own attraction/love/lust for t girls. I find that T girls have that special X factor thing i find so alluring and undefinable. While i agree with shade's take somewhat ---yes going back to the "forbidden fruit" a few more times makes you a lil less than str8 in my book too.

However the X factor (ok I'm speaking for self here) does not simply just equal out to be all about the she dick. I got crazy tranny radar even b4 i knew what a tranny was. If i see a gurl 3 blocks away and walking in the opposite direction I get a lil ""twinge" thing that happens If i happen to catch up and spook the t, I'm not thinking about moma's trade. I'm into her because shit that's what i like. Mega stated it in raw dog terms (as always) but yes i guess for me it's the ying/yang ampped up fem vs. male energy even in the most passable girls that sparks the sparks in me.

God made trannys and likewise also created guys and girls (and other trannies) who are into them. Define it how you like.

[LBCDO]

LISTEN UP, IM NOT ATTRACTED TO MEN AT ALL.....MEN GROSS ME OUT......BUT WHEN THAT MAN LOOKS LIKE A WOMEN IT BECOMES A TOTALLY DIFFERENT BALLGAME....LIKE ABSOLUTE SHADE SAID, YOUR FUCKING THE ILLUSION OF A FEMALE , BUT THERES A COCK THERE AND IM SURE YOU TOUCH IT, ITS A TS GIRL AKA A MALE WHI HAS ULTRA FEMINISED HIMSELF INTO THE ILLUSION OF A BEAUTIFUL WOMEN ......BUT THE TRUTH IS ITS REALLY JUST THE ULTIMATE FEMININE MALE..... YES I THINK OF HER AS A HER BECAUSE OF THE FEMININITY....BUT THE SEXUALITY IS NOT FEMALE, HOW CAN IT BE....BE HONEST WITH YOURSELF...ITS OK TO THINK OF TRANNYS AS GIRLS , I DO TOO....SHADE THINKS FOR HERSELF AS SHE , NOT HIM...BUT SEXUALLY THERES NO SUCH THING AS A GIRLS DICK AND IN REALITY WE ( ALL US GUYS ON THIS SITE ) ARE ARE REALLY COURTING THE ULTIMATE FEMININE MALE...ITS OK......JUST BECAUSE YOU PUT RABBIT EARS AND A COTTON TAIL ON A SQUIRREL DONT MAKE IT A RABBIT, ITS A SQUIRREL THAT NOW LOOKS LIKE A RABBIT , BUT ITS REALLY NOT.........

I agree with you 110% in everything said there. Thats how I feel. LOL, to touch up on someting you said, when I first started taking interest in TSs, I used to try to talk freaky to them and would call a dick a clit and ass pussy, etc. becuase I thouhgt it would make the girl feel better. I learned that I got more negatuve responses then when i just said what the hell it is. That TClit shit only sounds good on the internet, and is lame in perosn, LOL. They know what they were born with! If you get to that point wiht a girl, you should be able to know what to say for her example, LOL. Damn I was yound and stupid, LOL. Callin ass a girls "TPussy", LOL.

The reason I am on this board? Because I enjoy ALL apsects of transexual women. I can appreciate a girl who looks damn good [i.e. the dominican girl people were raggin on in the other thread because she was big]. A girl doesnt have to be naked for me to be turned on. I like to find out about other issues in other oarts, Uf yi bitucedm U an a newby posting, but I have been viewing for a while. I post in the sections that actually talk about something more than view the XXX pics. Check my post history. I wont lie, I do look at the pics when I feel that I wanted to be aroused, but my focus is mainly on the text and issues. Thats why I am on this board more tha I am on the BTG and Yum boards. Its like playboy. Sure there are pics in it, but there are also articles on other things that are surprisingly interesting!

[Ecstatic]

These discussions always seem to splinter into the same old dimorphic sexual dichotomy, time and again. The original topic of the thread gets lost in the shuffle*. The distinctions between sexuality and gender always seem to get lost. The infinite variety of human sexual and gender behavior always seem to be whittled down to either/or options of straight or gay (and occasionally someone remembers bi). Arguments become reductio ad absurdum exercises. Guys seem to either berate other guys for pretending to be straight or defend their interest as not being gay. Girls, who want understanding and acceptance of their feminine nature and gender (regardless of their physical sexual nature), often attack guys who claim to want girls for their femininity but who really (or also) want the girls' cocks. sigh.

I'm glad that I'm bi, have always been bi, and simply don't care if any particular sexual behavior is seen by others or defined by society as homo, hetero, or quatro (that's sex in an Audi, by the way )

* fwiw, to address that topic, if I were single and not in love with the woman I have been married to for 24 years, yes, I would love a TS SO assuming that we clicked on a wide range of interests beyond our bodies

[lmw222001]

I Don't Agree With Mega On Most Things, But In This Case I Do. If You're A Man That Comes To This Board You :
1) Like/Love TGirls And Go Out With Them Sexually And Or Emotionally

2)You're Giving It Some Very Serious Thought

3)Have A very Serious Sexual Facination With Them

In All Of The Above You Like Women With Cocks. And There's Nothing Wrong With That. A Lot Of This Discussion Is Just Semantics And Bullshit.
Labels,Labels,Labels. C'mon Folks, Get With It.

If You're A Man, Be Secure Enough In Your Masculinity To Admit That It's
Shemales That You Prefer.

[hwbs]

damm why ru people always messin with MEGA...whos str8 ,whos bi whos gay whos curious, whos drunk lol...who cares.... u people think u are any better if u just top...cause to rest of the world u are all the same i f u like trannies, lol..most of these people still probably have big issues with their sexuality..every new person in here tries to vindicate that they only look at that and they only do this ,,its your preference...just because you like to top does not make u better thaN every one else on this board ...i kind of look at this situaTION LIKE ALLANAH says about her parties.."there is something for everybody" ...true most girl like men who top ..but being around a bit i find that alot of girls like their guys more versatile ( i guess its a new topic 4 the cencus beureau..so whatever floats your boat....i dont care eitherwise....well gotta run ,have a turkey in the oven, lol...

[Ecstatic]

Mega, that's certainly one of the joys of being with a TG: when she's aroused, you know it. That's also what excites me about sex with guys, too: I just love to see my partner get physically excited--rock hard--from what we're doing. There's no faking that, but it's not about how gg's might fake arousal, it's that the response from a tg is so total. I just love to pleasure another, and to see that response just gets me hard, too. I've never been attracted to guys as such--I never look at a guy and start thinking about what he's like in bed or any of that, like I do with gg's and tg's--but I totally enjoy the sexual energy, the mutual response as we both get excited and get off. I know eclipse said something about how a girl--tg or gg--wants a "real man" but there are many types of "real men", not just the John Waynes and Mel Gibsons, and for me a big part of it is pleasuring another. I just love that response--and then what we can do with it--that's the sexual draw.

But also like you say, the sex is only a part of the deal. There's so much more in any relationship. I love my wife--been together 30 years, married for 24--only woman I want to be with, day in and day out, you know? She's a hetero gg, but she knew I was bi when we met (I was in the only gay LTR of my life at that time), and it didn't bother her a bit. Understand, she has NO interest in sex AT ALL. But I love her completely and can't imagine being without her. The sex just isn't that important, not compared to the rest of our lives together. But sex is important to me...and for a long time I was hurting because I had pretty much given up gay sex in the 80s (combination of being married and the AIDS scare), and had very few opportunities for female sex, either (though we have an open marriage). So I found myself totally captured by the feminine attributes of tg's, and missing the gay part of bisexuality as well, and I decided a few years ago to see a tg escort. I've never looked back. I love the sex, but the only girls who I see regularly are those I've connected with a lot deeper than just the sex.

I hope you find someone new, Mega. You'll never replace Julissa, of course, but someone else who you can love and who loves you just as much. I'm lucky that I found my wife when I was only 24 and love her more today than ever, and that she's totally cool with my outside interests (so long as I play safe, of course). She doesn't want to deny me sexual fulfillment, but sex is just something that just isn't for her (for too many reasons to go into here), so I have a bit of a compromise. It's all cool.

[ABSOLUTE SHADE]

I find it so hiliarious that a man that "THINKS" he's str8...uses "FAGGOT" words...

Mama....don't be fustrated...get castrated!

[ONEWORLD]

WHY ARE YOU HERE?...

ON THIS BOARD OR IN THIS WORLD?…I’VE ALREADY ANSWERED THE BOARD QUESTION IN ANOTHER POST.no homo I WAS BROUGHT INTO THIS WORLD THROUGH A POST-OP AT A YOUNG AGE AND DIDN’T DEAL WITH PRE-OPS UNTIL MUCH LATER I N LIFE.

These discussions always seem to splinter into the same old dimorphic sexual dichotomy, time and again. The original topic of the thread gets lost in the shuffle*. The distinctions between sexuality and gender always seem to get lost. The infinite variety of human sexual and gender behavior always seem to be whittled down to either/or options of straight or gay (and occasionally someone remembers bi). Arguments become reductio ad absurdum exercises. Guys seem to either berate other guys for pretending to be straight or defend their interest as not being gay.

*GRINS*

YES, I TOO GROW WEARY OF THESE TYPES OF DISCUSSIONS.

YOU LIKE THE SAME THING EVERY OTHER GUY ON THIS SITE DOES.......I DONT CARE WHAT YOUR GIRL SAYS OR WHAT HER FRIENDS SAY.....YOUR HERE CAUSE YOU LIKE CHICKS WITH DICKS AND SEXUALLY IT TURNS YOU ON ...ADMIT YOU LIKE GIRLS WITH A PENIS AND WHEN YOUR FUCKING HER OR SHE FUCKS YOU , YOUR HAVING GAY SEX WITH A GIRL WHO HAS A PENIS.....ADMIT IT....WHEN 2 PEOPLE OF THE SAME GENDER HAVE SEX ITS GAY SEX....FUCK AL;L THAT NONSENSE YOU JUST WROTE....YOUR DEAD WRONG.....

LISTEN, I UNDERSTAND WHY YOU MUST PERPETUATE THIS POINT OF VIEW…I’M FINE WITH THAT. THIS BOARD IS A PROMOTIONAL TOOL AND DISCENTING OPINIONS LIKE MINE ARE COUNTER-PRODUCTIVE TO YOUR ULTIMATE GOAL…I SAY THIS BECAUSE, I REFUSE TO BELIEVE THAT SOMEONE CAN BE SO RIGID IN THEIR THINKING & SEE THIS ISSUE IN ONLY BLACK & WHITE TERMS.no homo AS I SAID BEFORE, I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH DUDES THAT LIKE THE PENIS, BUT IT’S NOT MY CUP OF TEA.no homo I HAVE NOTHING AGAINST GAY DUDES, AGAIN IT’S JUST NOT MY THING…SORRY TO TOPPLE YOUR PRECARIOUSLY STRUCTURED HOUSE OF CARDS…

I WANT TO KNOW WHY YOU FEEL THE NEED TO RATIONALISE THIS....

WHY RATIONALIZE IT?

…BECAUSE THAT’S WHAT RATIONAL PEOPLE DO…DO YOU KNOW WHAT RATIONAL PEOPLE DON’T DO?…THEY DON’T ARGUE WITH IRRATIONAL PEOPLE. YOU SEEM TO REPEAT THE SAME EMOTIONAL TIRADE OVER & OVER AGAIN AND SAY THAT I’M WRONG…WHY?…BECAUSE YOU’RE RIGHT…THERE’S NO LOGIC OR REASON BEHIND YOUR POSITION. IT SEEMS YOU ARE HAVING A MARVELOUS TIME IN THAT “SIMPLE”, FLAT WORLD YOU LIVE IN; WHERE EVERYTHING IS SO CRYSTAL CLEAR & WHERE RIGHT AND WRONG EXIST ONLY TO SERVE AT YOUR BECKON CALL. FOR THE RECORD, I DON’T CLAIM TO BE RIGHT ABOUT ANYONE, BUT I THINK I KNOW MYSELF A LITTLE BETTER THAN YOU…

AM I ALONE?

ASK YOURSELF THE QUESTION, WHY ARE THE GIRLS ON THIS BOARD, FOR THE MOST PART, EXPRESSING THAT THEY DON’T LIKE TO DATE DUDES IN THEIR PERSONAL LIFE THAT ARE INTERESTED IN WHAT’S BETWEEN THEIR LEGS. THINK ABOUT IT, SOMEONE HAS TO BE GIVING THESE GIRLS WHAT THEY WANT, OR ARE THEY ALL SINGLE? HMMM.

YOUR FUCKING A TRANNY IN THE ASS ITS GAY SEX

no homoI THINK I AGREED UPON THE TERM “BI”…AND THOUGH I PERSONALLY DON’T CONSIDER MYSELF THAT, I ACCEPT THE LABEL SINCE OUR SOCIETY, TO A POINT, DEPENDS ON CLASSIFIERS & CATEGORIZERS TO SEPARATE, GROUP, AND CONTROL US.

[Toro]

YOU LIKE THE SAME THING EVERY OTHER GUY ON THIS SITE DOES.......I DONT CARE WHAT YOUR GIRL SAYS OR WHAT HER FRIENDS SAY.....YOUR HERE CAUSE YOU LIKE CHICKS WITH DICKS AND SEXUALLY IT TURNS YOU ON ...ADMIT YOU LIKE GIRLS WITH A PENIS AND WHEN YOUR FUCKING HER OR SHE FUCKS YOU , YOUR HAVING GAY SEX WITH A GIRL WHO HAS A PENIS.....ADMIT IT....WHEN 2 PEOPLE OF THE SAME GENDER HAVE SEX ITS GAY SEX....FUCK AL;L THAT NONSENSE YOU JUST WROTE....YOUR DEAD WRONG.....

LISTEN, I UNDERSTAND WHY YOU MUST PERPETUATE THIS POINT OF VIEW…I’M FINE WITH THAT. THIS BOARD IS A PROMOTIONAL TOOL AND DISCENTING OPINIONS LIKE MINE ARE COUNTER-PRODUCTIVE TO YOUR ULTIMATE GOAL…I SAY THIS BECAUSE, I REFUSE TO BELIEVE THAT SOMEONE CAN BE SO RIGID IN THEIR THINKING & SEE THIS ISSUE IN ONLY BLACK & WHITE TERMS.no homo AS I SAID BEFORE, I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH DUDES THAT LIKE THE PENIS, BUT IT’S NOT MY CUP OF TEA.no homo I HAVE NOTHING AGAINST GAY DUDES, AGAIN IT’S JUST NOT MY THING…SORRY TO TOPPLE YOUR PRECARIOUSLY STRUCTURED HOUSE OF CARDS…

ASK YOURSELF THE QUESTION, WHY ARE THE GIRLS ON THIS BOARD, FOR THE MOST PART, EXPRESSING THAT THEY DON’T LIKE TO DATE DUDES IN THEIR PERSONAL LIFE THAT ARE INTERESTED IN WHAT’S BETWEEN THEIR LEGS. THINK ABOUT IT, SOMEONE HAS TO BE GIVING THESE GIRLS WHAT THEY WANT, OR ARE THEY ALL SINGLE? HMMM.

no homoI THINK I AGREED UPON THE TERM “BI”…AND THOUGH I PERSONALLY DON’T CONSIDER MYSELF THAT, I ACCEPT THE LABEL SINCE OUR SOCIETY, TO A POINT, DEPENDS ON CLASSIFIERS & CATEGORIZERS TO SEPARATE, GROUP, AND CONTROL US.

ONEWORLD I feel EXACTLY the same way you do. I couldn't have said any of your posts better. But if I am going to label myself anything it's 'straight', simply because that's how I feel, and unless people knew specifically that I had been with a TS before, that's what they'd think I am. I have no interest in dick, and no interest in a TS who isn't 100% passable as a woman.

Seems to be a lot of people trying to 'out' some of the men on here, which is a pretty gay thing to do if you ask me. There's a definite split in the men who hang with TS. Not all of us are gay or bi.

The real hot TS, the genuinely passable kind who actually can attract straight men, don't feel the same way about this gay/straight thing - I can promise you. Some of them read this board but never post. That's how I got turned on to this site.