Iraq one of U.S.'s Greatest Foreign Policy Disasters

[olite71]

The "war" which began as a continuation of the Global War on Terror "GWOT" first sought justification in national security--i.e. WMD's in Iraq posed a threat to the security of the United States.

Then No WMD's were found.


The justification of the war was therefore shifted a bit--or at least the focal point of the justification was. No longer was it WMD's but it was spreading democracy and freedom to a nation ruled by a tyrant.


Then it was (re)discovered that the belief in the success of "spreading democracy" to vast hostile territories peopled with cultures wholly unfamiliar with the judeo-christian western tradition was nothing less than naive in the best light---naive perhaps for Woodrow Wilson who as an academic first taking the U.S. on the world stage probably didn't know better, but reckless and irresponsible by 21st century leaders who had decades of raelpolitik foreign policy guided by Marshall, Eisenhower, and Kissinger to learn from (and 2 out of 3 from their own party!).

Somewhere during this failure the faint battle cry of "better the terrorists kill there than here" has been heard. This battle cry is a sad testimonial to how low our moral center has descended....

For what it implies is that the USA has the birthright to go into another country and act as a "decoy" to bring in terrorists to phuck up and kill thousands and tens of thousands and hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians--as is going on right now.


Saddam was a terrible thing---but living under a tyranny is still better than dying in absolute chaos--and more people have died in the past four years in Iraq then would have died if the tyrant were still in power.

That's not a good report card.


And now we're left with the big humpty dumpty after the fall never to put the pieces back together again...I for one am for staying in there if only to save face for some while--and perhaps that is what's going on...as if the United States were saying to the Iraqi people: "Sorry for helping to cause all this chaos in your country, but we'll stay here and try to pot as many of the bad guys as we can...but it ain't easy, Achmed, it ain't easy."

Sure it ain't easy---and that's why you think long and hard before going on a three mile swim after you've eaten a pizza and drunk a case of beer--and it's why you learn from history before blundering blindly into the same old mistakes founded on the same faulty theories.

[guyone]

The Kurds seem pretty happy.

[olite71]

The Kurds seem pretty happy.

Well, the hundreds of thousands dead must be happy too--because they ain't complaining.

The Kurds seem pretty happy.

Well, the hundreds of thousands dead must be happy too--because they ain't complaining.

They're too busy with their 72 virgins.

[olite71]

The Kurds seem pretty happy.

Well, the hundreds of thousands dead must be happy too--because they ain't complaining.

They're too busy with their 72 virgins.

And who are the thousands of dead virgins busy with?

[guyone]

As I said before the Kurds are very happy.

[olite71]

As I said before the Kurds are very happy.

Assuming they are, the goal of this war was never to "make the Kurds Happy at the price of driving Iraq into chaos."


Hell, the shareholders of Halliburton and Raytheon are very happy too, What's your point?

Hell, the shareholders of Halliburton and Raytheon are very happy too, What's your point?

LMAO!!!

Halliburton lost about 2.5 BILLION dollars in 2006 doing work in Iraq that BIG OIL won't do. How are they happy?

[olite71]

Hell, the shareholders of Halliburton and Raytheon are very happy too, What's your point?

LMAO!!!

Halliburton lost about 2.5 BILLION dollars in 2006 doing work in Iraq that BIG OIL won't do. How are they happy?

Halliburton's shareholders have made a ton of money from 2003 through 2007... The war has enhanced their position not hurt it, even including the loss you cite above.

Hell, the shareholders of Halliburton and Raytheon are very happy too, What's your point?

LMAO!!!

Halliburton lost about 2.5 BILLION dollars in 2006 doing work in Iraq that BIG OIL won't do. How are they happy?

Halliburton's shareholders have made a ton of money from 2003 through 2007... The war has enhanced their position not hurt it, even including the loss you cite above.

While true that speculators have driven the stock up, that has hardly anything to do with anything.