Do you feel it's wrong?

[MrsKellyPierce]

I voted yes because I think that at least at some point you should come clean that you were born a guy. If you have the personality and the looks, the guy is going to dig you, and if it gets serious, there is always going to be that notion in the back of the mind: "Should I tell him?" Believe it or not, but this is a serious thing for guys. They might be totally turned off just at the thought.

I think that it is best to be honest up front. If they like you, excellent. If not, excellent. The important thing is that they like you and all of you.

That is what I think.

Where did I say I never tell them or keep playing what you call "charade" please read before you reply. Assuming makes an ass out of you and me

[TheGuard]

I don't see it as wrong, at that stage you're only talking and getting to know eachother. I think it may be unfair at a certain point, but if someone's intentions are true then it shouldn't matter in early conversations because they're supposed to be looking for a relationship, not sex ideally, so when they find out there shoudn't be all that much invested or expectations to where they can't just walk away unharmed. I honestly think it's fair to avoid whatever bias may be associated with TS in getting to know the real person.

Now my question to you, you like straight boys. I consider myself straight. What's the difference between someone who is 'straight' but know he likes transsexuals and a 'straight' boy who doesn't know but would be with a TS if it ends up at the same point logic wise. Just curious, not accusatory.

[Vala_TS]

This question goes back quite a few pages, possibly on another thread.

Kelly, you said something about not being able to have any guy you want because of your cock. So are you saying that you want SRS just to fit in or because it's what your truly want? I'm not trying to mess with you or anything like that, I'm just saying, get SRS because that is what YOU really want, not because you think it'll make you fit in. You'll be full of woes and regret later on if this is the only reason you're doing it.

Vala,

[catpower]

Actually Kelly, I never called anything a "charade", that was you. I also was not implying that you were playing a game. The reality is that when the majority of guys think of girls, they think of girls who were born girls. Not every guy out there looking for a nice girl is interested or even tolerant of people who have made a transition. If you don't realize this, you are the one assuming that "finding out" will be ok for the other party.

All that I was saying was that it is best to be honest up front.

[MrsKellyPierce]

I don't see it as wrong, at that stage you're only talking and getting to know eachother. I think it may be unfair at a certain point, but if someone's intentions are true then it shouldn't matter in early conversations because they're supposed to be looking for a relationship, not sex ideally, so when they find out there shoudn't be all that much invested or expectations to where they can't just walk away unharmed. I honestly think it's fair to avoid whatever bias may be associated with TS in getting to know the real person.

Now my question to you, you like straight boys. I consider myself straight. What's the difference between someone who is 'straight' but know he likes transsexuals and a 'straight' boy who doesn't know but would be with a TS if it ends up at the same point logic wise. Just curious, not accusatory.

No not if their intentions are true and more about me than what I have downstairs The Guard.

[TheGuard]

I don't see it as wrong, at that stage you're only talking and getting to know eachother. I think it may be unfair at a certain point, but if someone's intentions are true then it shouldn't matter in early conversations because they're supposed to be looking for a relationship, not sex ideally, so when they find out there shoudn't be all that much invested or expectations to where they can't just walk away unharmed. I honestly think it's fair to avoid whatever bias may be associated with TS in getting to know the real person.

Now my question to you, you like straight boys. I consider myself straight. What's the difference between someone who is 'straight' but know he likes transsexuals and a 'straight' boy who doesn't know but would be with a TS if it ends up at the same point logic wise. Just curious, not accusatory.

No not if their intentions are true and more about me than what I have downstairs The Guard.

Ah, good answer.

[MrsKellyPierce]

This question goes back quite a few pages, possibly on another thread.

Kelly, you said something about not being able to have any guy you want because of your cock. So are you saying that you want SRS just to fit in or because it's what your truly want? I'm not trying to mess with you or anything like that, I'm just saying, get SRS because that is what YOU really want, not because you think it'll make you fit in. You'll be full of woes and regret later on if this is the only reason you're doing it.

Vala,

No I am doing it for me..if I could of had the change at age twelve I would of done it. What I was saying is most men wont date me due to it..and wont stay with me because the prejudice and drama that comes with it.

[MrsKellyPierce]

Actually Kelly, I never called anything a "charade", that was you. I also was not implying that you were playing a game. The reality is that when the majority of guys think of girls, they think of girls who were born girls. Not every guy out there looking for a nice girl is interested or even tolerant of people who have made a transition. If you don't realize this, you are the one assuming that "finding out" will be ok for the other party.

All that I was saying was that it is best to be honest up front.

I didn't say you did..when I respond I am responding for all the other also at the same time. I never said that some haven't reacted badly to it..but not a lot I will say that.

[olite71]

I voted "yes." And my reasoning is as follows:

1. Whenever you do not tell the truth about something, there is something "wrong," period. The question is, however, what is the DEGREE of wrong?

2. The degree depends somewhat on the result. And the result depends on the circumstances and how you feel and the other person feels at the time. If you see the person is merely flirting and is looking for adventure, well then maybe the deception won't lead to anything more than a sligtly more than harmless misunderstanding.

3. But if you realize that the person is seriously into the object of the deception, then you might be setting them up for a serious fall--the degree of wrong here is heigtened.

4. The problem with this degree thing, however, is that it requires you to be somewhat of a mind reader and in doing so you inevitably find yourself treading out on thin ice more often than you'd maybe want to.

5. As a consequence, the safest course is to avoid any degree of "wrong" at all times... But that ain't fun, is it?


6. Still---just how "wrong" it is depends on your own sensibilities and the context of the encounter. Ever notice how when a man with a girlfiend meets an attractive woman he does not mention his girlfirend---it's because he is indulging a fantasy at the expense of this newly met attractive creature. On the other hand, when he meets someone unattractive (to him) he talks about his girlfriend with immediate dispatch... Thus he uses deception when he wants to gratify a fantasy and maintain the possibility of sexual tension--but it is only on his terms.... Whenever two people meet and a deception is being maintained to create an attraction on only one of the person's terms at the expense of the other--there is something wrong about that---in my opinion.

[xxMelania4uxx]

Im also on many Straight sites and i put female because: 1) i see my self as a female 2) i wouldnt be bothered with any1 that doesnt see me as a female. i think aslong as u tell them, theres nothing wrong with it