The Borat Thread!!! (For hollywoodbuckstrap)

[Kriss]

Sorry to be a party pooper guys, Borat is SHIT. total mindless rascist garbage, the lowest form of humour, this is some real sub-porkys shit. O.K., I haven't seen the film but I have seen enough of 'borat' on TV. I can remember when Sasha-baron cohen first started out on radio in u.k. His Ali G character really hit the spot at the time, he was not the only comedian doing that type of thing but was by far the best, his ALI G encapsulated everything that is faux, pretentious and pretend about the british white and asian(this term means of the indian subcontinent in u.k.) youth that imitate 'black' style and mannerisms. His 'bruno' character wasn't so big, probably as it was perhaps too accurate and everyone just took him seriously. WHY I DON'T LIKE BORAT : It is lazy, racial stereotyping, you wouldn't get a film where we laugh at a 'culturally backward' character from an African nation so why pick on the Stans? This character is one joke over and over again. Kazakstan is a large country, as big as all the other 'Stans' put together, as big as western europe, get a map, an accurate one. This is not a remote, backward province, these people are not idiots and they have VERY large reserves of natural gas. Geographically, Kazakstan is integral to the interests of U.S.A., U.K., China, Russia, etc. Pretty much any 'Big Player' in this world economy has a stake in Kazakstan, mainly for its natural gas resources and the need to pipe gas and oil through the country. Many of the population there are not of slavic/arabic Tash wearing descent as portrayed by borat, but of neighbouring Mongolian, Chinese and Russian heritage.
Borat is an anagram of ABORT. Mr Baron-cohen please take note.

[peterdavies37]

Sorry to be a party pooper guys, Borat is SHIT. total mindless rascist garbage, the lowest form of humour, this is some real sub-porkys shit. O.K. take note.

I senk you verr mowch for yurr commengs on this threyd... although I waander why you need to joinin een if you no want play along funtime.

Guessing that you waste much taam typings on the internets with no pleasure-getting - nex' taam ignoring of thees will be better for your mentalling.

Naas to see retards be allow access to computers in your village!

Dzienkuje.

[Trogdor]

Sorry to be a party pooper guys, Borat is SHIT. total mindless rascist garbage, the lowest form of humour, this is some real sub-porkys shit. O.K., I haven't seen the film but I have seen enough of 'borat' on TV. I can remember when Sasha-baron cohen first started out on radio in u.k. His Ali G character really hit the spot at the time, he was not the only comedian doing that type of thing but was by far the best, his ALI G encapsulated everything that is faux, pretentious and pretend about the british white and asian(this term means of the indian subcontinent in u.k.) youth that imitate 'black' style and mannerisms. His 'bruno' character wasn't so big, probably as it was perhaps too accurate and everyone just took him seriously. WHY I DON'T LIKE BORAT : It is lazy, racial stereotyping, you wouldn't get a film where we laugh at a 'culturally backward' character from an African nation so why pick on the Stans? This character is one joke over and over again. Kazakstan is a large country, as big as all the other 'Stans' put together, as big as western europe, get a map, an accurate one. This is not a remote, backward province, these people are not idiots and they have VERY large reserves of natural gas. Geographically, Kazakstan is integral to the interests of U.S.A., U.K., China, Russia, etc. Pretty much any 'Big Player' in this world economy has a stake in Kazakstan, mainly for its natural gas resources and the need to pipe gas and oil through the country. Many of the population there are not of slavic/arabic Tash wearing descent as portrayed by borat, but of neighbouring Mongolian, Chinese and Russian heritage.
Borat is an anagram of ABORT. Mr Baron-cohen please take note.

Borat would say, after hearing all that, "Tank you verr much!"

[peterdavies37]

Borat would say, after hearing all that, "Tank you verr much!"

Hey wood indee says thet!

Dzienkuje... hey feyve!

[LG]

Sorry to be a party pooper guys, Borat is SHIT. total mindless rascist garbage, the lowest form of humour, this is some real sub-porkys shit. ....WHY I DON'T LIKE BORAT : It is lazy, racial stereotyping, you wouldn't get a film where we laugh at a 'culturally backward' character from an African nation so why pick on the Stans? This character is one joke over and over again. Kazakstan is a large country, as big as all the other 'Stans' put together, as big as western europe, get a map, an accurate one. This is not a remote, backward province, these people are not idiots and they have VERY large reserves of natural gas. Geographically, Kazakstan is integral to the interests of U.S.A., U.K., China, Russia, etc.

Jagshemash Kriss...

I can't say I agree with you. From what I understand- from what he himself has said- Sacha Baron Cohen picked Kazakhstan simply becuase it is a relative unknown country to most people and then played on people's stereotype of what a backwards former-Soviet nation would be like. He doesn't say anything denigrating about the country, he just had to pick a real country to use to make his act believable and it had to be a country that most people know little about. Sadly, many people, including the Kazakh government, got the wrong end of the stick.

If anything, the nation that comes out looking bad in the movie is the US. Its citizens are shown to often be racist idiots. There are one or two scenes that really drive this home. The American TV show was similar, with Borat getting people to agree with him on some very controversial and often politically incorrect things. I have also seen the British series and have it on DVD. I got the joke immediately, and the joke is not on Kazakhstan. The joke is on the people Borat visits and, in the end, on all of us. We sit and watch this and laugh and then just go home and do nothing. I think the Borat film was far more though-proving than people may have thought.

You probably won't agree with me. Maybe it's becuase so many people in the movie theatres laughed but didn't get the joke as I felt I got it. Maybe it's because Borat is a racist asswipe, but also a pretty decent guy as well. Maybe it's just because you don't accept that it was neccessary for Borat to come from somewhere.

I have been following Baron Cohen's career since the 11 o' clock show and have seen most of his stuff. His third character has left me a little unconvinced, but I think the guy has a real talent. Not just for making people laugh, but for making us think as well.

[Kriss]

Sacha Baron Cohen picked Kazakhstan simply becuase it is a relative unknown country to most people and then played on people's stereotype of what a backwards former-Soviet nation would be like.


with Borat getting people to agree with him on some very controversial and often politically incorrect things......... The joke is on the people Borat visits.

You probably won't agree with me. .

No actually I do agree with you, I just think he should have made up a name ending in stan and the whole thing would be almost funny. I do like to play devils advocate and stir up some shit , plus Mr Baron-cohen has a very attractive wife and I am jealous of him and his money too, bastard! I guess I am also waiting for a character as good as ali g. True the joke is on the rascists/foxhunters/polititions he visits and racial humour can't be totally 'out of bounds' unless we live in a police state. also i am a paranoid conspiracy theorist that looks for propagana and hints at the next U.S invasion in every thing. been reading too many of the chef's posts in the politics room.

[muhmuh]

WHY I DON'T LIKE BORAT : It is lazy, racial stereotyping, you wouldn't get a film where we laugh at a 'culturally backward' character from an African nation so why pick on the Stans?

you really dont get borat and if you watch the movie you get the impression cohen doesnt even get borat himself
honestly the movie was crap because what borat is actually about -like lg said- is peoples reaction to a sterotype not the stereotype itself... and thats the problem with the movie it was all borat in character and rarely people reacting to borat

[Trogdor]

Sorry to be a party pooper guys, Borat is SHIT. total mindless rascist garbage, the lowest form of humour, this is some real sub-porkys shit. ....WHY I DON'T LIKE BORAT : It is lazy, racial stereotyping, you wouldn't get a film where we laugh at a 'culturally backward' character from an African nation so why pick on the Stans? This character is one joke over and over again. Kazakstan is a large country, as big as all the other 'Stans' put together, as big as western europe, get a map, an accurate one. This is not a remote, backward province, these people are not idiots and they have VERY large reserves of natural gas. Geographically, Kazakstan is integral to the interests of U.S.A., U.K., China, Russia, etc.

Jagshemash Kriss...

I can't say I agree with you. From what I understand- from what he himself has said- Sacha Baron Cohen picked Kazakhstan simply becuase it is a relative unknown country to most people and then played on people's stereotype of what a backwards former-Soviet nation would be like. He doesn't say anything denigrating about the country, he just had to pick a real country to use to make his act believable and it had to be a country that most people know little about. Sadly, many people, including the Kazakh government, got the wrong end of the stick.

If anything, the nation that comes out looking bad in the movie is the US. Its citizens are shown to often be racist idiots. There are one or two scenes that really drive this home. The American TV show was similar, with Borat getting people to agree with him on some very controversial and often politically incorrect things. I have also seen the British series and have it on DVD. I got the joke immediately, and the joke is not on Kazakhstan. The joke is on the people Borat visits and, in the end, on all of us. We sit and watch this and laugh and then just go home and do nothing. I think the Borat film was far more though-proving than people may have thought.

You probably won't agree with me. Maybe it's becuase so many people in the movie theatres laughed but didn't get the joke as I felt I got it. Maybe it's because Borat is a racist asswipe, but also a pretty decent guy as well. Maybe it's just because you don't accept that it was neccessary for Borat to come from somewhere.

I have been following Baron Cohen's career since the 11 o' clock show and have seen most of his stuff. His third character has left me a little unconvinced, but I think the guy has a real talent. Not just for making people laugh, but for making us think as well.

His appearences on Leno and Conan O'Brian were priceless.

[BRONXBODY]

Borat shit is funny, but have we not seen this before? Remember Yakov Smirnoff???

[Kriss]

HAT EATING UPDATE!!!!!! I saw BORAT film last night(after much protesting, I wanted to see scanner darkly) and have to say that I laughed out loud!!!!!!!!! several times. It was very funny and at times VERY disturbing (the bedroom fight scene ) so i eat my hat. Still don't get the wierd 'jewish' angle but then i'm not jewish or particularly into anything religeous(the one word I CANNOT spell). even more disturbingly, my friend thinks Borat looks hot. "What, even with the bad hair and tash?" "Yeah, in a weird way"