Transsexual Lesbian?

[Ecstatic]

I'm waiting for Peggy to step up with some indepth studies here. I will give blackmagic enough credit that, yes, research is ongoing and far from conclusive on any aspect of human psychology; while in the physical sciences we are within shouting distance of a "theory of everything," we know far less about the inner workings of the mind and brain. However, blackmagic, you are basing your claims on the most simplistic of taxonomies, the either/or split of all humans into male or female (with a small concession to the intersexed). However, gender is not based purely on primary sexual characteristics, and indeed some researchers hold that transsexuality is a form of intersexuality, where the primary sexual characteristics are of one sex but the secondary (and particularly psychological, but often also hormonal) characteristics are of the opposite sex. Nor do I accept the split of humans into male/female; that rather describes the extreme poles of a range of human sexuality, never mind gender.

[TomSelis]

Nah, you like what you like. It's as simple as that, no problems here.

I understand where you're coming from. Although, I can understand how other people can be confused too. Most people would think "Ok, she's a transexual, but she likes women and transexuals too? I don't get it." But don't worry about that, I know it's easier said than done.

It's silly to give you shit about it because guys that like transexuals are in a similar catch 22. I consider myself straight, but I like transexuals. Most people would think "Ok, you're straight, but you like women and transexuals? I don't get it."

Don't worry about it. Just enjoy your girl, that's all that really matters.

[blackmagic]

hey kelly I forgot to ask did you ever research GID and or GD, take a good look and research that, then get back with me

I have my BS in psychology. Not to mention I am a transexual myself, and have been living as a girl since age twelve. I am not the one that needs educating it's you. I have talked at college after college to people just like you. Educate yourself before you speak.

LMAO im 20 years old I droped out of highschool at age 16, lol "theres gotta be a reason why I know this shit better than you do" :P

You don't? you are only talking about the anatomy, nothing else. Isn't that convenient, it's what most "Tranny Chasers" focus on the DICK.

Definitions of psychology on the Web:

* The science that deals with mental processes and behaviour.
news.bbc.co.uk/sportacademy/bsp/hi/in_the_gym/jargon_guide/html/default.stm

since you have a BS in psychology lol then you already know how i "studied what you wrote, and by judging that i also assumed which i was correct that you did not have the factual evidence in which to support your case of having a female mind" alrighty then theres alittle proof of psychology mixed with my knowledge of human anatomy

I'm waiting for Peggy to step up with some indepth studies here. I will give blackmagic enough credit that, yes, research is ongoing and far from conclusive on any aspect of human psychology; while in the physical sciences we are within shouting distance of a "theory of everything," we know far less about the inner workings of the mind and brain. However, blackmagic, you are basing your claims on the most simplistic of taxonomies, the either/or split of all humans into male or female (with a small concession to the intersexed). However, gender is not based purely on primary sexual characteristics, and indeed some researchers hold that transsexuality is a form of intersexuality, where the primary sexual characteristics are of one sex but the secondary (and particularly psychological, but often also hormonal) characteristics are of the opposite sex. Nor do I accept the split of humans into male/female; that rather describes the extreme poles of a range of human sexuality, never mind gender.

i dont have much to really say to that........ i find some true from my point of view but i also see it as your opinionated view, so im not gonna say much about it.

[MrsKellyPierce]

hey kelly I forgot to ask did you ever research GID and or GD, take a good look and research that, then get back with me

I have my BS in psychology. Not to mention I am a transexual myself, and have been living as a girl since age twelve. I am not the one that needs educating it's you. I have talked at college after college to people just like you. Educate yourself before you speak.

LMAO im 20 years old I droped out of highschool at age 16, lol "theres gotta be a reason why I know this shit better than you do" :P

You don't? you are only talking about the anatomy, nothing else. Isn't that convenient, it's what most "Tranny Chasers" focus on the DICK.

Definitions of psychology on the Web:

* The science that deals with mental processes and behaviour.
news.bbc.co.uk/sportacademy/bsp/hi/in_the_gym/jargon_guide/html/default.stm

since you have a BS in psychology lol then you already know how i "studied what you wrote, and by judging that i also assumed which i was correct that you did not have the factual evidence in which to support your case of having a female mind" alrighty then theres alittle proof of psychology mixed with my knowledge of human anatomy

I'm waiting for Peggy to step up with some indepth studies here. I will give blackmagic enough credit that, yes, research is ongoing and far from conclusive on any aspect of human psychology; while in the physical sciences we are within shouting distance of a "theory of everything," we know far less about the inner workings of the mind and brain. However, blackmagic, you are basing your claims on the most simplistic of taxonomies, the either/or split of all humans into male or female (with a small concession to the intersexed). However, gender is not based purely on primary sexual characteristics, and indeed some researchers hold that transsexuality is a form of intersexuality, where the primary sexual characteristics are of one sex but the secondary (and particularly psychological, but often also hormonal) characteristics are of the opposite sex. Nor do I accept the split of humans into male/female; that rather describes the extreme poles of a range of human sexuality, never mind gender.

i dont have much to really say to that........ i find some true from my point of view but i also see it as your opinionated view, so im not gonna say much about it.

BLACKMAGIC YOU ARE NOT USING PSHCYOLOGY OR DID/GID - YOU ARE SAYING IF YOU HAVE A PENIS YOU ARE A MALE NO MATTER WHAT. THAT IS WHAT YOU ARE STATING! READ WHAT YOU ARE SAYING. THERE IS NO PSCYHOLOGY IN THAT STATEMENT. JUST A JUDGEMENT YOU HAVE NO EDUCATION ON. YOU ARE NOT A TRANSEXUAL. YOU DON'T KNOW HOW WE FEEL OR WHY WE ARE THIS WAY. YOU ONLY ASSUME, BECAUSE YOU WATCH PORN! NOW BEFORE YOU GET ANY MORE OPINIONS GO BACK TO WATCHING YOUR 'SHEMALE' PORN.

[blackmagic]

BLACKMAGIC YOU ARE NOT USING PSHCYOLOGY OR DID/GID - YOU ARE SAYING IF YOU HAVE A PENIS YOU ARE A MALE NO MATTER WHAT. THAT IS WHAT YOU ARE STATING! READ WHAT YOU ARE SAYING. THERE IS NO PSCYHOLOGY IN THAT STATEMENT. JUST A JUDGEMENT YOU HAVE NO EDUCATION ON. YOU ARE NOT A TRANSEXUAL. YOU DON'T KNOW HOW WE FEEL OR WHY WE ARE THIS WAY. YOU ONLY ASSUME, BECAUSE YOU WATCH PORN! NOW BEFORE YOU GET ANY MORE OPINIONS GO BACK TO WATCHING YOUR 'SHEMALE' PORN.

did you not read any of my previous post? heres some more PSCYHOLOGY for you, you planely stated that YOU ONLY ASSUME, BECAUSE YOU WATCH PORN! now then why would you say that? because for starters 1. your mad. and 2. you have no clue what im basing my judgments and or research upon. there see even a youngster can teach you a lesson on PSCYHOLOGY

[blackmagic]

Once again, thanks everyone who has something intelligent and positive to say. Much love and respect to you all.

In reference to the current prick using up his 15 minutes of fame, why are you even here? It's obvious you don't like transsexuals, considering how much you are bad mouthing us. No disrespect to anyone else, BUt I notice it says you are from Texas. There is another asSHhole that thinks what he says is absolute and just. Isn't it odd that he's also from Texas?

Use your brain to figure that one out

LOL ask the mods to give you my IPA princess

lol this prick dates a TS, you do know that right ROFLMAO

[signupjustforthis]

So with that said someone feel free to explain to me how exactly a transsexual can be a lesbian, even though a transsexual can be male or female but in this case the TS is portraying that of a female, but still has the sex of a male, my point being is that there is no such thing as being a TS lesbian.
[snip] (I base my judgment promptly upon the fact that your still a man even under those implants, and or bodily reconstruction)

Obviously you miss the entire central issue of transsexuality, as KellyShore expressed so clearly:

Being a Transexual has nothing to do with sexual preference, but Sexual Identity.

A transwoman is female who was born with primary male sexual organs. Her gender is female, even if her biological sex is male. Some accept this and remain "transitional" or "in-between" sexually (perhaps because they can't have or don't want surgery, perhaps because they enjoy the pleasure they male parts give them), while others seek to correct this condition through gender reassignment surgery, but in either case, they are female, not male. Thus, as females, they may be attracted to other females, which makes them lesbians (or as Kelly and Caleigh rightly say, "transbians"). Sexual orientation and gender identification are two distinct sets, which may often overlap but not always.

LOL no there still males and always will be until they have that dick inverted hence the names shemale ladyboy and the main word TRANS, look if your gonna fail to recognize the science between genders then say so, "this isn’t NYC where you can dress in drag for 2 weeks and have a birth certificate change because the outer appearance of your clothing resembles that of a female", where not idiots in the world there’s a reason why if you have a dick with balls your still male, if you got that pussy, your female plane and simple, every TS out there will contradict what I just said failing to look at the scientific factual evidence proving them to still be male ( unless born intersexed aka XXY, XX, pseudo), heck if it where evident then every post op girl would still be male for the fact of chromosomes, as for what Kelly said, well I believe this should respond to that

You obviously do not know the complexity of this subject of gender identity.

There are many theories that could suggest that chromosomes are not the only thing that define one’s gender identity.

Hormonal release during different pre natal stages can give an answer to some of the reasons why people have a female brain and a male body and an XY chromosome.


For example, in areas where a woman’s brain is larger than men , researches also found that ts women have more similarities with other women than with men in that particular brain region.


Many psychologists argue that biological factors play a factor into one’s gender identity and is simply not a black and white issue like you clam to be.

[blackmagic]

LOL ask the mods to give you my IPA princess

lol this prick dates a TS, you do know that right ROFLMAO

That's a shock. So, I'm guessing she's okay with you considering her to be nothing more than a man playing dress up. That's pretty much what you've been saying here. I assume you refer to her with the proper male pronouns also. Just going by your statements, not mine. I would never intentionally disrespect another Tgirl.

heres another shock we have been dating even before she decided to become a TS.

with kim, i dont refer to her as a TS, shemale, ladyboy, drag queen, crosdresser, tranny, transvestite whatever, I just caller kim, and that goes for every other TS ive met. let alone most of the time i say "dude" or " whats up man" to her, she doesnt care, she knows i say it to everyone even GGs

[MrsKellyPierce]

BLACKMAGIC YOU ARE NOT USING PSHCYOLOGY OR DID/GID - YOU ARE SAYING IF YOU HAVE A PENIS YOU ARE A MALE NO MATTER WHAT. THAT IS WHAT YOU ARE STATING! READ WHAT YOU ARE SAYING. THERE IS NO PSCYHOLOGY IN THAT STATEMENT. JUST A JUDGEMENT YOU HAVE NO EDUCATION ON. YOU ARE NOT A TRANSEXUAL. YOU DON'T KNOW HOW WE FEEL OR WHY WE ARE THIS WAY. YOU ONLY ASSUME, BECAUSE YOU WATCH PORN! NOW BEFORE YOU GET ANY MORE OPINIONS GO BACK TO WATCHING YOUR 'SHEMALE' PORN.

did you not read any of my previous post? heres some more PSCYHOLOGY for you, you planely stated that YOU ONLY ASSUME, BECAUSE YOU WATCH PORN! now then why would you say that? because for starters 1. your mad. and 2. you have no clue what im basing my judgments and or research upon. there see even a youngster can teach you a lesson on PSCYHOLOGY

Because you used the lamen terms of "ladyboy, shemale, etc etc etc"

[blackmagic]

You obviously do not know the complexity of this subject of gender identity.

There are many theories that could suggest that chromosomes are not the only thing that define one’s gender identity.

Hormonal release during different pre natal stages can give an answer to some of the reasons why people have a female brain and a male body and an XY chromosome.


For example, in areas where a woman’s brain is larger than men , researches also found that ts women have more similarities with other women than with men in that particular brain region.


Many psychologists argue that biological factors play a factor into one’s gender identity and is simply not a black and white issue like you clam to be.

"cries gallantly into a crowd of stupid minds", please before you post anything go back and read my previous post, and if you want while your at it why dont you go study Littleton v. Prange, 9 S.W.3d 223 (Tex. Civ. App. 1999)