Does your wife know?

[Ecstatic]

Yep, that confirms what I thought and what my TG friend told me. I asked my wife about that and she wasn't so sure. Maybe, she said, but maybe not. Then again, she knows I'm bi, so she might think there's a chance I'd fall in love with a guy (ain't gonna happen, not that kind of love) or a tg (well, that could happen...there's a couple of girls I do love, but I'm not in love with--and I think that's an important distinction). My wife also went a step further--try it with a girl and we'll see how I react. hmm, should I? Haven't had any pussy in a long while....but then these days it's the tg's who turn me on, so who knows....

[AllanahStarrNYC]

I think this post is very interesting and it only confirms one of my
theories about men- most of you want your cake and to it eat as well.

I am not criticizing or being judgemental, but the matter of fact is that a lie is still a lie, and living a lie is still living a lie.
Funny part is I just don't understand why people can not be honest with each other. Especially the person you live with?????


From a person who has been lied to & cheated upon, well, let me tell you it sucks to be on the other side. It sucks to find out you have been living a lie.

For me, that is why I do not want a marrige, a boyfriend- an anything.
Number one I am to self abosorbed and two,
the only circumstance would be in an open relationship. I really believe that is the only type of relationship that works.
Being in this industry has thought me so much about men and sexuality that I KNOW for a fact that monogamy is IMPOSSIBLE for a man (it might well be as well for a woman).

So tell me men, why is that you lie?
I know that some of you really do not like yourselfs for having this attraction. Guess what is the number one question i hear all day darlings?
And further more I think this self angst often translates itself to the
way some(do I dare say most?) men treat transsexuals and women, especially the objectification of trannsexuals as pure sex objects.

After all these years, (yes I' m no spring chicken darlings), I now know that I am not the problem. The fact is most men can't really handle this attraction.

[Clownin]

I think this post is very interesting and it only confirms one of my
theories about men- most of you want your cake and to it eat as well.

Close but not quite .. we want to have our cake ..eat it too .. and STILL have it!!!

[Slither]

I think this post is very interesting and it only confirms one of my
theories about men- most of you want your cake and to it eat as well.

I am not criticizing or being judgemental, but the matter of fact is that a lie is still a lie, and living a lie is still living a lie.
Funny part is I just don't understand why people can not be honest with each other. Especially the person you live with?????


From a person who has been lied to & cheated upon, well, let me tell you it sucks to be on the other side. It sucks to find out you have been living a lie.

For me, that is why I do not want a marrige, a boyfriend- an anything.
Number one I am to self abosorbed and two,
the only circumstance would be in an open relationship. I really believe that is the only type of relationship that works.
Being in this industry has thought me so much about men and sexuality that I KNOW for a fact that monogamy is IMPOSSIBLE for a man (it might well be as well for a woman).

So tell me men, why is that you lie?
I know that some of you really do not like yourselfs for having this attraction. Guess what is the number one question i hear all day darlings?
And further more I think this self angst often translates itself to the
way some(do I dare say most?) men treat transsexuals and women, especially the objectification of trannsexuals as pure sex objects.

After all these years, (yes I' m no spring chicken darlings), I now know that I am not the problem. The fact is most men can't really handle this attraction.

because Men are addicted to sex, plain and simple. The fact is after a while a guy gets tired of sex with the same person every night. For most men, I think it has more to do with filling their own sexual needs rather than not loving their wife/girlfriend.

For me, when I saw shemales on the side when I was married I didn't do it because I wanted to divorce my ex-wife(well, I DID want to get a divorce, but for other reasons), but basically it was just to fill sexual desires. I never wanted to leave her for that reason, it's just something I did on the side.

And it has nothing to do with transsexuals being "Sex objects" because it would be the same thing if I was cheating with a GG.

But please, let's not make it like men are the only one who cheat. Not to get off topic beacuse this is a topic about transsexuals and wives, but women cheat just as much as men.

[AllanahStarrNYC]

So you admit then that you lie or lied
that and in your eyes is/was ok?

What if your partnet did/does the same-
What would your reaction be?

[magic9inch]

I LOVE MY CAKE. AN SHE DONT KNOW I LIKE A VARIETY OF CAKES.

[Slither]

So you admit then that you lie or lied
that and in your eyes is/was ok?

What if your partnet did/does the same-
What would your reaction be?

Yes, I lied and it was wrong. and if my girlfriend/wife ever cheated on me I'd be extremely pissed. that's the cycle of cheating, you shouldn't do it but you do it anyway. Just like really, as far as our health goes, we shouldn't drink alcohol or smoke cigarettes or weed or whatever, but we do it anyway.

[Clownin]

because Men are addicted to sex, plain and simple. The fact is after a while a guy gets tired of sex with the same person every night. For most men, I think it has more to do with filling their own sexual needs rather than not loving their wife/girlfriend.

OK ..not fer nothin , but thats a pantload. I'm sure you dont mean to generalize here .. but ya ARE. There is NO sex, like sex when you are with the RIGHT ONE. And it gets better all the time. To some that may sound unrealistic, but those who have been there KNOW what I'm talkin about.

Can I get an AMEN???

[Ecstatic]

I agree with Allanah that the best type of relationship is an open relationship. My wife and I wrote "open" into our marriage vows, and we always strive to be honest with one another (not necessarily telling all--neither of us would want to know "all"--but being honest whenever we ask one another to be). Do we always succeed? No, of course not, we're human and sometimes fail, but we always try. That's why when my wife asked me about the phone number of the escort I had visited that day I didn't hesitate but told her. Did I falter by not telling her I was going to see this girl beforehand? Possibly. I thought about it, but I didn't feel comfortable about it until afterward, and was not obligated to by our social contract or marriage vows. Open. Besides, it was a big step for already, and I didn't want to confuse things any further. But she never accused me of hiding or cheating and respected me for telling her about it that day when I could have easily hidden it.

By the way, the idiom should be "eat your cake and have it too." It's one thing to have your cake, then eat it. The trick is to eat your cake, then have it.

[AllanahStarrNYC]

See this is all very interesting-
However Slither you are almost excusing yourself from "bad" behaviour...
your argument about the smoking & drinking is irrelevant i think because those are generally behaviours that effect your own body, life
(of course that is not absolute)


We humans have something called self control.
And I don't think all men are sex addicts, because a sex addict is compulsive and that is really a behavioural problem.

What I think is most interesting thing is the double standards of most people who cheat have (both men & women) and the fact about how so many people are comfortable living these lies.
i mean, if you are going to get married (or be involved with someone)
and you pledge not to cheat (which is a bunch of bull) then well
you should hold to that agreement. if you do not, then why do it?
why get married, why have a girlfriend? for the comfort? the convinience?

I am not an advocate of monogamy and I believe those who advocate it should really practice it otherwise you are just a hypocrite. But then our society is very comfortable with being hypocritical about certain issues-
sex being one of them.