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    There are many people that I know who don't believe in any form of God that are the most homophobic people I know.
    Ah yes...those homophobic atheists are everywhere nowadays...

    You wouldn't happen to know what their stance on gay marriage is , would you?


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    Atheists as a whole against gay marriage? Uh, no. Not from what I've seen, anyway.


    While if I could go back in time and change things, God knows I would, I also realize that such a thing is impossible. So I just have to move on with my life and make sure that I come out the other side a better person. That’s all there is too it.

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    And that's not based on religion, as, well, Atheists don't have a religion. ^_^ But I think that it just depends on where you live. Up here, most people could care less for gay marriage, and for good reason--it doesn't affect them. Same thing with transsexuals. Though, from those that I've met that are against one or the other (or both), the same reason seems to ring true all the time: they find it to be "disgusting". I guess that society just isn't quite ready yet. Within a generation or two, though, who knows?


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    If I wasn't a transsexual myself, I would probably reject them too. I feel like the TS community is like this dark, dank hole of dispair. Either you side yourself with the traditional community and get the whole middle aged manly "I don't look like a woman but accept me as one anyway" or you go with the sex community and get this really wierd negative vibe. Maybe I have had bad luck with most of the girls I've met.

    It's hard because financially and education-wise, I fit better into the traditional community than the sex worker community. However, I don't fit in in terms of people that I can relate to or want to have fun and hang out with. On the other hand, in the traditional community, you are less likely to find drug and substance abuse issues vs the sex worker community - which makes me fit better into the traditional community.

    So I end up hanging out with GG's and GB's. That is best for me anyway. I mean TS are their own worst enemy. Any time you isolate yourself from the majority of the population, and create your own language or mechanism for isolating yourselves, you face contempt. Sorry Springer or Paulvich are the only mainstream media outlets that regularly give people exposure to what a TS is... and that is sad. Most, not all, of the people on those shows are eccentric whacko's who should never be at the forefront of our community. Unfortunately, every TS wants to be a star for some reason and to go "mainstream". Being on television feeds that somehow.

    So anyway, that is my opinion. I am not saying I am above anyone and there are plenty of successful TS who have bridged the gap successfully. Allanah has done well. She is more financially successful than most, if not all, of her acquaintences, but she does a good job bridging that gap. I think Gia, another successful TS, does a good job isolating herself from the community for the most part.

    Meanwhile, you have the most beautiful of sex industry TS's like Miriam still escorting and getting thrown out of windows (anyone else read this?) and almost all the girls never getting ahead because of bad money management. Girls don't pay attention, but the sex industry is a short term position offering 20 years at best and 10 years at the worst worth of income. You can't rely on some guy coming and saving you after you've hit the wall - only on yourself. Find me a dozen TS who spends or saves like they is on a limited income stream and I'll sell you a bridge in Saudi Arabia.



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    I hate to agree but I do.

    But I'm sure in 50 years, being a TS will be accepted, at least somewhat. I mean, 50 years ago, being gay was like the worst thing in the straight world now it's "I'm gay, get used to it!" and nobody really objects.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Somedude21
    And that's not based on religion, as, well, Atheists don't have a religion. ^_^
    yet firmly believing in the absence of any deity is just as much a riligion as believing in the presence of one


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    That was (for me anyway) a very enlightening post from Vikki.

    I'd have probably over simplified it by saying its because they don't understand & there's no incentive for that to change.

    The public have now been made more aware of Gay rights & are rightly,careful about how Gays are treated as regards Education,Employment etc .. perhaps the same kind of thing needs to happen before the TG community is fully accepted & perceived as being of no threat to anyone.

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    I for one would like to hear more about the homophobic atheists and their agenda...

    Perhaps society has underestimated their growing menace...


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    To put it plain and simple; Society rejects transsexuals because it can. We're not being singled out.

    We're rejected for the same reasons that society rejects; fat people, ugly people, successful people, black people, disabled people, thick people, intelligent people, outspoken people, people who achieve, people who sponge off the system, people with AHD, people who stutter, people who squint, people who smell, people with bad hairdos, chistians, muslims, Arabs, and, The French.

    Society rejects transsexuals because the human race isn't very nice. People will swear otherwise, yet at some point along the line, maybe in what they do, or what groups they discriminate against; They're not. I notice how so many people like to consider themselves as nice. Maybe they're saying that they would like to be nice.

    We alone are not singled out. And to assume that gay people are not, is simply not true. Society is just society.

    Thus; transsexuals are not a single unitary group being picked upon. It just seems that way at times from our persepctive.

    If a transsexual dresses like a queen or a lezzy and bores the shit out of uninterested people telling them the gory details of how a man becomes a woman, then it's hardly surprising. People, or more, society simply does not want to know.

    It would be true to sum up; Better judgement is in order if transsexuals want an easy life. And thankfully (for me) almost every single one on here does. This is one of the more sane forum/collection points of transsexuals.

    That's not to say that there isn't discrimination out there. As clearly there is. But it has to be viewed in perspective. Does that person dislike you because you're a transsexual? Or do they just not like you?



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    Quote Originally Posted by J
    what an idiot u are, sure, if atheism is a religion then health is a disease...
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    Nice analogy.



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