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    Default taxpayers to pay for shemaleyum models sexchange

    isn't this the same chick from tony vee's shemales volume 1?



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    CITY-PAID GENDER OP
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    February 25, 2007 -- Talk about a tax cut.

    A judge has ordered taxpayers to foot the bill - up to $20,000 - for a sex-change operation that will make a 21-year-old man into a woman.

    In a ruling to be released Thursday, Manhattan Family Court Judge Sheldon Rand said the city must provide the subsidized snip because the woman wannabe, identified as Mariah Lopez, had been in the care of the Administration for Children's Services as a youngster.

    The judge said the agency has a duty to pay for all "necessary" medical care to the kids in its charge.

    Rand ruled that Lopez suffers from a diagnosed gender-identity disorder and that surgery is the recognized treatment.

    "I don't think it's hit me yet. The consequences are so far reaching," a jubilant Lopez told The Post after learning of her victory in the legal battle, which started before Lopez was 18 and cared for by ACS.

    "This court has recognized that gender-identity disorder is a real condition and there is a real solution to it and people don't have to suffer from it."

    The city's senior lawyer on the case, Julian Kalkstein, said, "We respectfully disagree with the judge's decision and are going to be appealing the case."

    Lopez said the surgery would cost between $15,000 and $20,000. The city has already paid for a laser hair-removal procedure around Lopez's genital area.

    Lopez's father, who lost custody when she was 6 because of his drug use, said, "She's my son-daughter, I love her.

    "If it's in her blood to be a woman, so be it.

    "I think if it helps other gay people, I'm all for it."

    Lopez, who was named Brian at birth, told of feeling like a girl trapped in a boy's body at 6 years old.

    "I didn't know I was a boy. It was a rude awakening. I thought you could choose your gender," Lopez said.

    Lopez - who is still physically a man - dresses as a woman and has taken hormones since age 15 in order to go through puberty as a girl, get breasts and develop a higher-pitched voice. Lopez also likes to be referred to as "she."

    In his decision, Judge Rand wrote, "Mariah L. should be treated in order that she may go on with her life and be in a body which blends with the gender with which she identifies."

    It is the second time the judge has ruled that ACS should pay for Mariah L.'s surgery. His original decision of January 2006 was put on hold so the city could appeal.

    ACS lawyers said that Mariah L. had not complied with previous psychotherapy and does not have stable housing or employment.

    Lopez claimed the city had already decided to appeal. "They are compromising my health and safety," she said.
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    it's fucked up that she should have a necessary medical treatment paid for by the state?

    or it's fucked up that the state is trying to weasel it's way out of paying for a necessary medical treatment?

    or it's fucked up to think that SRS is a necessary medical treatment?


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    I don't accept the judge's premise that transgenderism is a disorder that needs medical treatment. SRS is a personal decision, not a cure for a disease.

    But I'm glad she was smart enough to manipulate the system to get what she wants. That strategy is usually reserved for the wealthy and powerful.



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    Well it's nice to see that the Post is still hiring such
    gifted journalists as Janon Fisher, and Leela de Kretser.

    With such eloquent writing, I am sure that they must
    have graduated top of their class from the Columbia
    School of Journalism, if not that at least from one of
    those schools on the back of a matchbook.

    Having said that, our tax dollars in the form of Medicare,
    Medicaid, free care, and other subsidized forms of
    medical are already used in the treatment of a wide
    variety of illnesses and medical issues.

    Gender dysphoria has been deemed a disorder, by
    the APA (American Psychiatric Association), and the
    American Psychological Association

    As well as having a codification in the ICD - 10,
    (International Classification of Diseases) of the World
    Health Organization (WHO).

    http://www.icd9data.com/2007/Volume1...302/302.85.htm

    http://www.icd9data.com/2007/Volume1...02/default.htm

    Canada, a number of countries in the EU, even a few
    countries of the so-called Third World such as China
    currently recognize this and will assist it's citizens
    accordingly.

    As has been discussed many times on this forum, SRS
    is not always the mandatory course of treatment for
    all transwomen. Many women elect to remain non op,
    with a relatively small minority opting for SRS.

    Bottom line, adequate health care is a right, not a privilege.



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    Quote Originally Posted by J
    thats ur example of how fucked up america is? ...thats a fuckin problem!!!
    Word! $20,000 is nothing compared to the dollars draining into bush/cheyney/blair/vatican's pockets.



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    Quote Originally Posted by peggygee
    Canada, a number of countries in the EU, even a few
    countries of the so-called Third World such as China
    currently recognize this and will assist it's citizens
    accordingly.
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    Interesting point, how much help do TS women get in the European Union? Is there adequate financial assistance with things like hormones, medications, procedure, etc? Is the help with medication and surgical procedures of the quality you require? What shortcomings have you experienced in dealing with government appointed specialists?



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    Quote Originally Posted by passionatelover
    its fucking bullshit and a total waste of money.
    Wow, with your analytical mind and concise, cogent, and
    articulate command of the English lanquage, I bet you
    would be a shoo-in at the Post.

    Here is their employment link, if you're interested.

    http://atwork.nypost.com/careers/emp...etail/id/36152

    Tell them, Peggy sent you.



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    Quote Originally Posted by passionatelover
    its fucking bullshit and a total waste of money.
    It's not YOUR money. So accept it. There is nothing you can do to possibly alter the fact that this girl will probably get the cash and have a chance at life without having to do 500 porn shoots. Good. I doubt very much that you have scrupulously paid every single cent you should in tax. I doubt that you will even generate $20,000 in your mean, resentful lifetime, let alone pay that in tax. You're just passionate about yourself.



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    Quote Originally Posted by passionatelover
    its fucked up people should have to pay for something she wants.
    I agree. Its fucked up that the State should pay for all that dialysis that people with kidney disease want and all that insulin that those diabetics crave. And all those heart bypasses that are so popular now, not to mention that chemotherapy that is all the rage among cancer victims.

    Its medical treatment for a medical condition. What she wants is what anyone with any condition wants. The right and best care she to which she is legally entitled

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    Quote Originally Posted by passionatelover
    fuck you both, its a fucking waste of money, $20000 to MAYBE make ONE person feel better, cos lets face it, some do regret doing the change, so its a total waste of time and money for something that is option and not life saving.
    Right. Some do regret SRS. People like...Renee Richards who had various fantasies and illusions of what life as a woman would be like. People for whom realizing those fantasies was the driving motive behind their transition. Yes such people exist.

    The subject of the news story is not such a person. How do I know? She just does not fit that Renee Richards like profile. Having lived as a femal for so long and dealt with the B.S. and hard realities of it she will have no illusions about her post SRS life. After having SRS someone like her will be able to go on with a reltively normal life and perhaps need never tell anyone ever that she was not born exactly as she is.

    That and after SRS being able to wear something as tight as you want without any self conciousness would be worth it.



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