My opinions on escorting: an intellectual debate

[peggygee]

I want to briefly talk about transgendered ladies and escorting. I am not going to personally attack anyone by calling out names. I don't judge because that responsibility lies with God. I just wanted to express what is on my mind and get some intelligent feed back on the subject.

Yeah, you get to buy some nice things with the money you earn. The transgender community has been exploited with the notion that you must have better material items than your peers.


Now, let's look at the flipside of the escorting (again, if thats what you want to call it). Here are a few issues that escorts have to deal with on a daily basis:

1. The Police: Yep, Yep! The Ol' boys in blue. They love to patrol areas where the streetwalkers are. I am sorry, I should say public escorts. Please excuse my manners. Also, the police set up stings with the escorts that advertise themselves in magazines, newspapers, and internet ads. They will pose as johns in hotels and get ya when prices are discussed.

2. Johns: They are the ones who keep the industry thriving. Yeah, they come in all shapes, colors, and sizes. From the old and young alike, they they come from all walks of life. Damn, some are even married and have kids but yet find themselves to be the transgendered ladies best customers. Go figure?!

Well, Johns (called tricks) can be professional and rough. The rough ones worry the escorts (if thats what you want to call them). The rough ones will pretend to be nice and rob them. Some of the johns have killed some of these poor human beings in the past and present. Wow! It's sad!

3. Motivation: The industry workers have to motivate themselves on a daily basis. Wow, just imagine some fat fuck walking through your door smelling like chitterlings and onions wanting a date. He wants you lick his backside and get on top of you in order to stick his wee-wee in your precious hole.

What person in their right mind would normally find this acceptable? You would have to talk yourself into doing this shit on a daily basis in order for you to survive. You may even have to stick your wee-wee inside of him and he may not be clean and end up leaving a brown suprise on you.

Damn! I guess there is some truth to the old saying, "All that glitters isn't gold!"

4. Self Esteem: I don't know. Do these people have any self worth? Do they feel that is the only thing they can do in this world? Do they perpetuate the facade that they are secure with themselves and have an internal conflict going on?

I mean, I hate to see someone be the victim of some fuck playing out their fantasies on them. I mean, these guys see them as freaks and treat them as such!

5. Future: They have to be scarred of what life is going to be like for them when they get older. What are they going to do when they are no longer desireable? What then? Go to McDonald's? Home Depot?

Do they have any money stored away earning them a fair market return in the form of interest? There is going to come a time when they will see one last John (nice way of saying turn a trick).

Yeah, the escort world is complicated and deep.

I would be receptive to having a discussion on the topic of
escorting.

Though at the onset, I want to go on the record as saying that
I do not see it as a moral issue, or one in which another person's
code of ethics should be imposed on another person.

Further, this is not a good or bad, right or wrong type of issue, as
there are various shades of grey that impact the situation.

Your first two points about the police and about the clients, are
legitimate concerns. The police in many areas can be very
zealous in their efforts to curb the activities of those engaged in
this line of work.

And as you state, many of the clients are not 'Richard Gere' in
'Pretty Woman'. Some are attractive, pleasant. courteous, and are
not problematic to work with. Some may be a pain in the ass, and
not in the good way. Their hygiene may be bad, their disposition poor.
Additionally a women must be hyper-vigialnt to ensure her safety.

The motivation factor that you have alluded to has validity as well.
Though much like any other job, people must often deal with clients,
customers, co-workers, or bosses that they would much rather not
have to deal with. Hopefully the hourly rate of this escort will
provide motivation and incentive. Like any other job there can be
a sentiment of take this job and shove it, if they are not
being compensated adequately.

Your mention of self esteem is one that I particularly would like to
address. I do not feel that a lack of self esteem drives all women
into escort work. There definetely, un-equivocally, and without
arguement is societal discrination that may force many women into
sex work.

As a transwoman is transitioning she will find many employment
barriers in her path. If she is fortunate she will be in a place of
employment that will be both socially and financially supportive of
her as she transitons.

Ideally her job would provide her with health coverage to assist
her in her transition. Does her HMO or group health plan cover
HRT, psychotherapy, etc. It most likely won't cover any needed
surgeries related to her transition.

And if a woman is able to or must pay out of pocket costs
related to her transition, there are other considerations.

For instance, is her place of employment transfriendly, do her
co-workers discriminate against her. Do they make her feel less
than worthy, is it a hostile work environment.

Yes, there are legal protections, and yes there are transfriendly
employers, but not all women will be lucky enough or have the
wherewithal to end up in a job such as that. It takes a great
deal of creativity, perserverance, and good fortune to make
it through to your ultimate goal.

As to the future, I always encourage any women who is engaged
in the sex trade to be mindful of the future. Hopefully she is using
this work as a stepping stone, as a means to an end.

Ideally she is investing or saving her money. Perhaps she has
returned to school or is preparing herself for another line of work.

Maybe another course of action may be to find more affordable
surgeons, perhaps in a foreign country. Once a woman has reached
her surgical goals, has her documents in order she may consider
going stealth and leaving her past behind. But the Catch 22 here
is that an employer will want to know what you have been doing
job wise for the last X number of years.

The reality of life is that if a person is alive, they will get older. There
will come a time the either the body or the mind will not be able to
continue in this line of work.

Another consideration will be that not all girls are able to command
a $200 - $300 fee. In my opinion there appears to be near market
saturation with scores of women having ads on the Net, and in the
papers, etc.

Also guys are always looking for the next PYT, the new 'it' girl, and
the sex trade can be a fickle Mistress to mix a metaphor.

If a woman is aware of the various ramifications of this type of
work, if she has carefully thought it out, if she has a exit strategy
in place, then it may work for her, though it is not for every
woman.

Further and finally neither the women nor society should feel that
this is is the only type of work that a transwoman should be
engaged in.

Transwomen should be able to work in any line of work that is of
their chosing.

[ezed]

I want to briefly talk about transgendered ladies and escorting. I am not going to personally attack anyone by calling out names. I don't judge because that responsibility lies with God. I just wanted to express what is on my mind and get some intelligent feed back on the subject.

Yeah, you get to buy some nice things with the money you earn. The transgender community has been exploited with the notion that you must have better material items than your peers.


Now, let's look at the flipside of the escorting (again, if thats what you want to call it). Here are a few issues that escorts have to deal with on a daily basis:

1. The Police: Yep, Yep! The Ol' boys in blue. They love to patrol areas where the streetwalkers are. I am sorry, I should say public escorts. Please excuse my manners. Also, the police set up stings with the escorts that advertise themselves in magazines, newspapers, and internet ads. They will pose as johns in hotels and get ya when prices are discussed.

2. Johns: They are the ones who keep the industry thriving. Yeah, they come in all shapes, colors, and sizes. From the old and young alike, they they come from all walks of life. Damn, some are even married and have kids but yet find themselves to be the transgendered ladies best customers. Go figure?!

Well, Johns (called tricks) can be professional and rough. The rough ones worry the escorts (if thats what you want to call them). The rough ones will pretend to be nice and rob them. Some of the johns have killed some of these poor human beings in the past and present. Wow! It's sad!

3. Motivation: The industry workers have to motivate themselves on a daily basis. Wow, just imagine some fat fuck walking through your door smelling like chitterlings and onions wanting a date. He wants you lick his backside and get on top of you in order to stick his wee-wee in your precious hole.

What person in their right mind would normally find this acceptable? You would have to talk yourself into doing this shit on a daily basis in order for you to survive. You may even have to stick your wee-wee inside of him and he may not be clean and end up leaving a brown suprise on you.

Damn! I guess there is some truth to the old saying, "All that glitters isn't gold!"

4. Self Esteem: I don't know. Do these people have any self worth? Do they feel that is the only thing they can do in this world? Do they perpetuate the facade that they are secure with themselves and have an internal conflict going on?

I mean, I hate to see someone be the victim of some fuck playing out their fantasies on them. I mean, these guys see them as freaks and treat them as such!

5. Future: They have to be scarred of what life is going to be like for them when they get older. What are they going to do when they are no longer desireable? What then? Go to McDonald's? Home Depot?

Do they have any money stored away earning them a fair market return in the form of interest? There is going to come a time when they will see one last John (nice way of saying turn a trick).

Yeah, the escort world is complicated and deep.

Why? Jesus Christ, why? We all have our reasons and circumstances. What makes you think you can pontificate without walking a mile in someone else's shoe. You really don't know shit about those you generalize about. Ask yourself, who the fuck am I to say what another person does with their life. YOU DON'T KNOW SHIT. YOU HAVEN'T LIVED THAT PERSON'S LIFE! Jesus H. Christ, these sanctamonious judgements wanna make me puke. Fuckin A! I love it when these "Helpful Henriattas" toss in their two cents worth and tell everyone how to live their life.

[Solitary Brother]

lol @ snorty torty

I demand that the OP spend a week in a closet area of a one bedroom apartment in an urban environment with no identification only a pre-paid cellphone and a nearby pc hotspot where you can rent net time by the hour; i demand that the OP then post an ad on craigslist so that he can then spend hours on end in that closet area in that 1 bedroom apartment in an urban area answering phonecalls from pretenders saying they'd like to make an appointment or detectives trying to set him up; finally I demand that the OP after making some money off of a client then give 80% of it to the primary renter to pay for that closet space............ when you've accomplished that, feel free to post a fair observation of what many of these girls go through

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