Transexuals who like their dicks?

[werwt22]

LOL Thank you. I was wondering if I was the only one that noticed that. I have no clue how the word tranny can be taken offensively anyway. It's nothing but a shorter version of the word transexual or transvestite. I mean really....what the hell different meaning does tranny have than transexual. Your talking about it being on the level of "cunt", "nigger", so on and so forth and those words have clear meanings so what does tranny mean that makes it so offensive?

Duh I think Peggy has explained it pretty well and much better than I ever could, if you take the time to go back and read what she wrote maybe you would understand my point just a little bit. Once you have read the quotes passé, which I hasten to add are taken from transgender people who have had experience with being referred to as this term and happen to find it offensive, maybe then you see it in a different light. Secondly granted this site does use these captions but how often to find any of the mods here referring to the girls as trannys in there posts, probably never. Also where I come from (UK) if I was to tell someone I was dating a tranny they would assume I meant a transvestite and not a transgender person and that’s another reason why it is shit, it’s such a broad form of terminology for something that actually is not. Look of course it is going to be a matter of opinion some transgender people will find it offensive and others will not, but the fact that even a few do, most like indicates that there are probably better terms.

Your missing my point. OMG LOL @ seeing it being disrespectful b/c its the same name as shorter word for transmission. Words do have multiple meanings ya know. BTW I did read FYI. And nothing in those statements held any true meaning to me. People consider all kinds of words offensive like boy or girl as opposed to woman or man. I mean come on.....that holds no credence. Those are opinions of a select few (not literally). So what it's a broad term....it can mean transvestite or transexual bottom line. If I call you human will you take offense b/c I didnt specify your race? So where's the offense in that? Or are you gonna ask me to read again?

[lust4ts]

it can mean transvestite or transexual bottom line.

There you go, you've just answered your own question, being a transvestite and being a transgender person are two very different things and to a transgender person being called a transvestite would certainly be seen as an insult, and the word tranny that describes both and does not differ ate between the two is a perfect example of why the term is useless and outdated. A word that describes two things that are completely different is essentially pointless in modern society. Also you mention that it is not offensive, although it clearly is to the people who made those quotes and also a valued member here who also happens to be transgender (Peggy Gee). Also I find it some what amusing how you tried to broach this subject with me and not Peggy who has much more experience of the word, and stated many reasons why there are better terms, that you just happen to disagree with. Finally if you go back to my first point, if you will, you will see that I mentioned to AGTFB about connecting with transsexuals, well I have a little example for you of what I meant, OK here it goes you go to a club you meet a girl and suspect she is a TG what would be the best way to refer to her would you
: A say are you a transsexual
: B Are you transgender
: C Are you a tranny
So taking A,B and C as examples which one is going to go down best, certainly not C that is for sure. So to sum up it has been proven that some people find it offensive, and it has also been proven to be much too broad of a term to describe something that essentially is not.

[peggygee]

LOL Thank you. I was wondering if I was the only one that noticed that. I have no clue how the word tranny can be taken offensively anyway. It's nothing but a shorter version of the word transexual or transvestite. I mean really....what the hell different meaning does tranny have than transexual. Your talking about it being on the level of "cunt", "nigger", so on and so forth and those words have clear meanings so what does tranny mean that makes it so offensive?

Duh I think Peggy has explained it pretty well and much better than I ever could, if you take the time to go back and read what she wrote maybe you would understand my point just a little bit. Once you have read the quotes passé, which I hasten to add are taken from transgender people who have had experience with being referred to as this term and happen to find it offensive, maybe then you see it in a different light. Secondly granted this site does use these captions but how often to find any of the mods here referring to the girls as trannys in there posts, probably never. Also where I come from (UK) if I was to tell someone I was dating a tranny they would assume I meant a transvestite and not a transgender person and that’s another reason why it is shit, it’s such a broad form of terminology for something that actually is not. Look of course it is going to be a matter of opinion some transgender people will find it offensive and others will not, but the fact that even a few do, most like indicates that there are probably better terms.

Your missing my point. OMG LOL @ seeing it being disrespectful b/c its the same name as shorter word for transmission. Words do have multiple meanings ya know. BTW I did read FYI. And nothing in those statements held any true meaning to me. People consider all kinds of words offensive like boy or girl as opposed to woman or man. I mean come on.....that holds no credence. Those are opinions of a select few (not literally). So what it's a broad term....it can mean transvestite or transexual bottom line. If I call you human will you take offense b/c I didnt specify your race? So where's the offense in that? Or are you gonna ask me to read again?

Wertwt22, from my re-collection of various postings of yours,
I don't recall your being out of line, so I hope you do not feel I
am not bearing a grudge with this.

Thus please take this cartoon as just a humorous way to drive
home a point, cause you seem like a bright guy who doesn't need
to 'Get Hooked On Phonics:


But if after reading what various groups of tranwomen prefer to
be called, and the reasoning behind it, then I must deduce that
something may be lost in the reading or interpretation.

Though it may sound like a semantical difference, or a political
correctness issue it goes deeper than that.

The transsexual women who have toiled and struggled very hard
to be the women they are, and who are women 24/7/365, will
often times take umbrage at being compared to someone who is
a woman only on the weekend or for a few hours.

Transsexuals are not transvestites, nor are they drag queens,
cross dressers or the other terms that the less informed populace
refers to them as.

That this is a term used on a porn website, along with the equally
derisive terms 'she-male and ladyboy', does not make it any more
palatable or correct.

You of course have the right to continue to use the term. It is your
First Amendment right to freedom of speech, but much like you
have the right to yell 'fire' in a theatre, it wouldn't be the prudent
thing to do.

Actually it may be in your best interest to not use the term, as 'lust4ts'
has stated when you first meet a women you would lead off with your
best foot, be on your best manners. Not go in calling her a bitch or ho,
or a tranny, or a shemale, etc.

Finally, I have pasted the links and statements once again for your
edification.

Here is a sampling of what other transgroups think of the
term:

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=tranny


tranny:An extremely offensive term for a transsexual man or
woman, or any of the transgendered community.

On the same level as "nigger", and "cunt" for most people,
though, like "dyke", some of the transgendered community
are trying to reclaim the word, without much success.

"So your girlfriend's a tranny?" "... Please don't say that...
She's a woman, just like you are."



http://www.translife.net/wiki/index....ve_Terminology

Tranny
Sometimes used to refer to transsexuals as well as
automotive transmissions, this term is frequently viewed
as degrading to many in the community. To many it's
viewed as reducing a person to the form of an object.

Unless you're a member of the community or you know
that the trans person is ok with the usage, try to avoid
this one too


http://www.trans-health.com/kara/respect.html


The term "tranny" is slang for transsexual, either as an adjective
or noun. Many feel that it is offensive, on par with words
like fag, dyke and nigger. As such, many feel that only
trans people themselves can reclaim it and use it. In some
cities, however, it only means cross-dresser and not
transsexual. Use it with much caution, if at all.


http://www.tsroadmap.com/start/tgterms.html

tranny: a term used by some TG women to describe other
TG women. Often considered offensive if used by a non-TG

[lincspoacher]

There is merit in both sides of the debate here .. I have heard Transgendered women referring to others as "Trannies",in fact I personally know one lady who refers to her feminine attire as "my Tranny rig".

Interestingly enough .. in my younger days,when Radios began to shrink in size & cheap Transistor radios were imported from Japan .. they were universally known,certainly here in UK as ... Trannies ... Lol.

In my experience,I've found it best to ask a Transgendered woman how she refers to herself .. that way you won't go far wrong or cause unwitting offence in what can be a bit of a semantic minefield.

Bye for now,

Poacher.

[eggbert]

I love sex, so if a vagina can give me as much pleasure as my penis, I look forward to having SRS. However, I've met some post-ops who were convinced that the grass had to be greener if they got it, but now don't feel that it was worth it.

Maybe this should be a new thread, but I'd be interested to know the statistics or hear opinions from girls who have had the surgery and how they feel about after a few years.

[peggygee]

I love sex, so if a vagina can give me as much pleasure as my penis, I look forward to having SRS. However, I've met some post-ops who were convinced that the grass had to be greener if they got it, but now don't feel that it was worth it.

Maybe this should be a new thread, but I'd be interested to know the statistics or hear opinions from girls who have had the surgery and how they feel about after a few years.

It might be better to start a new thread, as going into that
topic could muddy the water, and dilute both.

[werwt22]

it can mean transvestite or transexual bottom line.

There you go, you've just answered your own question, being a transvestite and being a transgender person are two very different things and to a transgender person being called a transvestite would certainly be seen as an insult, and the word tranny that describes both and does not differ ate between the two is a perfect example of why the term is useless and outdated. A word that describes two things that are completely different is essentially pointless in modern society. Also you mention that it is not offensive, although it clearly is to the people who made those quotes and also a valued member here who also happens to be transgender (Peggy Gee). Also I find it some what amusing how you tried to broach this subject with me and not Peggy who has much more experience of the word, and stated many reasons why there are better terms, that you just happen to disagree with. Finally if you go back to my first point, if you will, you will see that I mentioned to AGTFB about connecting with transsexuals, well I have a little example for you of what I meant, OK here it goes you go to a club you meet a girl and suspect she is a TG what would be the best way to refer to her would you
: A say are you a transsexual
: B Are you transgender
: C Are you a tranny
So taking A,B and C as examples which one is going to go down best, certainly not C that is for sure. So to sum up it has been proven that some people find it offensive, and it has also been proven to be much too broad of a term to describe something that essentially is not.

I responded to you b/c you seemed to be the one that was pressed about the terminology the first guy was using. And my answer to your question would be D: None of the above b/c I dont label the women I talk to. If I'm attracted then I'm attracted and theres no need for me to label her.

[werwt22]

LOL Thank you. I was wondering if I was the only one that noticed that. I have no clue how the word tranny can be taken offensively anyway. It's nothing but a shorter version of the word transexual or transvestite. I mean really....what the hell different meaning does tranny have than transexual. Your talking about it being on the level of "cunt", "nigger", so on and so forth and those words have clear meanings so what does tranny mean that makes it so offensive?

Duh I think Peggy has explained it pretty well and much better than I ever could, if you take the time to go back and read what she wrote maybe you would understand my point just a little bit. Once you have read the quotes passé, which I hasten to add are taken from transgender people who have had experience with being referred to as this term and happen to find it offensive, maybe then you see it in a different light. Secondly granted this site does use these captions but how often to find any of the mods here referring to the girls as trannys in there posts, probably never. Also where I come from (UK) if I was to tell someone I was dating a tranny they would assume I meant a transvestite and not a transgender person and that’s another reason why it is shit, it’s such a broad form of terminology for something that actually is not. Look of course it is going to be a matter of opinion some transgender people will find it offensive and others will not, but the fact that even a few do, most like indicates that there are probably better terms.

Your missing my point. OMG LOL @ seeing it being disrespectful b/c its the same name as shorter word for transmission. Words do have multiple meanings ya know. BTW I did read FYI. And nothing in those statements held any true meaning to me. People consider all kinds of words offensive like boy or girl as opposed to woman or man. I mean come on.....that holds no credence. Those are opinions of a select few (not literally). So what it's a broad term....it can mean transvestite or transexual bottom line. If I call you human will you take offense b/c I didnt specify your race? So where's the offense in that? Or are you gonna ask me to read again?

Wertwt22, from my re-collection of various postings of yours,
I don't recall your being out of line, so I hope you do not feel I
am not bearing a grudge with this.

Thus please take this cartoon as just a humorous way to drive
home a point, cause you seem like a bright guy who doesn't need
to 'Get Hooked On Phonics:


But if after reading what various groups of tranwomen prefer to
be called, and the reasoning behind it, then I must deduce that
something may be lost in the reading or interpretation.

Though it may sound like a semantical difference, or a political
correctness issue it goes deeper than that.

The transsexual women who have toiled and struggled very hard
to be the women they are, and who are women 24/7/365, will
often times take umbrage at being compared to someone who is
a woman only on the weekend or for a few hours.

Transsexuals are not transvestites, nor are they drag queens,
cross dressers or the other terms that the less informed populace
refers to them as.

That this is a term used on a porn website, along with the equally
derisive terms 'she-male and ladyboy', does not make it any more
palatable or correct.

You of course have the right to continue to use the term. It is your
First Amendment right to freedom of speech, but much like you
have the right to yell 'fire' in a theatre, it wouldn't be the prudent
thing to do.

Actually it may be in your best interest to not use the term, as 'lust4ts'
has stated when you first meet a women you would lead off with your
best foot, be on your best manners. Not go in calling her a bitch or ho,
or a tranny, or a shemale, etc.

Finally, I have pasted the links and statements once again for your
edification.

Here is a sampling of what other transgroups think of the
term:

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=tranny


tranny:An extremely offensive term for a transsexual man or
woman, or any of the transgendered community.

On the same level as "nigger", and "cunt" for most people,
though, like "dyke", some of the transgendered community
are trying to reclaim the word, without much success.

"So your girlfriend's a tranny?" "... Please don't say that...
She's a woman, just like you are."



http://www.translife.net/wiki/index....ve_Terminology

Tranny
Sometimes used to refer to transsexuals as well as
automotive transmissions, this term is frequently viewed
as degrading to many in the community. To many it's
viewed as reducing a person to the form of an object.

Unless you're a member of the community or you know
that the trans person is ok with the usage, try to avoid
this one too


http://www.trans-health.com/kara/respect.html


The term "tranny" is slang for transsexual, either as an adjective
or noun. Many feel that it is offensive, on par with words
like fag, dyke and nigger. As such, many feel that only
trans people themselves can reclaim it and use it. In some
cities, however, it only means cross-dresser and not
transsexual. Use it with much caution, if at all.


http://www.tsroadmap.com/start/tgterms.html

tranny: a term used by some TG women to describe other
TG women. Often considered offensive if used by a non-TG

LOL That was pretty funny. I dont use the term myself personally. I was just saying I didnt see the harm. You see it as being harmful or disrespectful being labeled the same as transvestite but thats not what I meant when I said it being used as a broad term. I think I made a very nice and clear example with the whole "Human" thing. Secondly how can anything harmful be derived from a shorter version of the same word? As far as that other example, "So your girlfriends a tranny?", is no different than someone sayin, "So your boyfriends black?" Nothing wrong with being black.....it's just the way they used the term that made the statement offensive not the word. =D

[peggygee]

I love sex, so if a vagina can give me as much pleasure as my penis, I look forward to having SRS. However, I've met some post-ops who were convinced that the grass had to be greener if they got it, but now don't feel that it was worth it.

I'm not even talking about physical pleasure necessarily. I'm talking about validation too. Once you're post-op, you're going to pretty much be like any other female, and that's a mindfuck for some TS. Unfortunately tho', none of us will ever really know for certain until it's done and over with, and we're living that way. But that's the nature of our lives. None of us had any guarantees, and most us knew from our earliest memories that we were up against something pretty big.

I've known many more pre-ops than post-ops, so maybe I'm wrong; but I get the impression that many post-ops are going through a midlife crisis and rushing into srs. They endlessly talk about how happy they are because of it, and overzealously pat each other on the back for getting it. But I suspect that part of that is really a bluff. Because, on some level, 'misery loves company'. Also, many of these older post-ops seem to be incapable of passing, so it has to make you wonder. Buying a Taiwanese pussy with your retirement money will not guarantee you your womanhood. There's no such shortcut to it.

Anyhoo, these are a few of the reasons that I'm not in a big hurry to get srs. I know that I may catch shit for having said this, but 'oh well'. I don't pretend to have all the answers. Like so many of us, I had to diagnose myself before I even knew what a TS was. And, for that matter, this is still somewhat of an evolving way to live your life.

To state the obvious, having sex with a vagina, is very different
than having had sex with a penis. Particulary so if a person enjoys
using their penis.

Having had both, and loving sex as much if not more than the next
person, I will attest that this 'Thai' poonany works.

If you have had a penis, and then have SRS, you find that the orgasms
are quite different, some women miss having an erection, some will
miss ejaculation, and some will miss the act of penetration.

I think it really depends on how you feel about your penis and using
it. For me it was quite uncomfortable physically and psychologically.

After SRS, and being just another broad in a sea of broads, was cool
as I have other qualities that seperate me from the pack, as we all
have something that makes as unique.

Solving all of my problems, far from it. For me once I solve a problem
or achieve a goal, I will shortly thereafter start another project, or find
another problem to fix.

Though when you are in conflict with your body at such a fundamental
level it may difficult to work on other complex problems. Having SRS
freed up alot of my brain to work on other crap.

[peggygee]

With men that I'm not really feeling it for, I prefer to receive oral or top. But over time, I've come to realize that I equate topping with dominating them. I know that some may not be able to relate to that, but that's how it works for me. It becomes a power-trip that gets me very horny, and gives me the energy to slam an asshole raw.

But with someone I feel is a little special, hands down I prefer to bottom. This is the closest I get to submitting, and letting someone make love to me. And, actually, I get much more overall pleasure from that. Now if the physical pleasure of my penis could be combined with the emotional satisfaction of having a man make love to me, I suspect that I'd never look back. My instincts say that this will eventually be right for me, but I'm not ready to cross that bridge.

I can definetely understand that. Being the receiving partner
makes you more vulnerable, both physically and psychcologically.

As the receptor, you may be in a physically submissive position.
Also being the receptor may be seen by society as the sterotypical
feminine role, which is passive.

If a women is working or with someone that she doesn't have a great
deal of trust, it may be safer both for her physical safety as well as not
getting too emotionally involved with the other person.

Men may like to bottom or be dominated as they now may relinquish
control, and responsibility, as well as it being physically pleasing to
some of them.

And yeah, making love with someone you really care about is great
when it comes into our lifes.

It's the shiznit.