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    Quote Originally Posted by beatmaker
    I think anti-black racism is a very complex subject, with much of it rooted in European colonialism (especially in Latin countries). So, the rampant oversimplifications made in these forums, when these sort of topics arise are frustrating. Also, you have some TS's who are size queens, who merely like black men, that are very well endowed and probably would lose interest fast, if you didn't live up to the Mandingo image of black men. So, they truely don't like black men, if we have been minimized us to the size of our penis. From what I heard, Nakita is on this black Mandingo shyt too. She even posted an ad on this very website, soliciting very well-endowed Black men, for a gang bang movie she was filming. The link below is typical of what I'm talking about.

    http://pornotube.com/media.php?m=108799

    In terms of trannies, Asians and South American Latinas seem to be very resistant. Spain and Portugal are notoriously racist towards Blacks and darker people in general, so no wonder their is rampant bias in places like Brazil and Argentina. If you don't believe me, just watch Latin television for a few days and you'll see virtually no blacks, with the exception of athletes and Latin women dolled up with nose jobs and bleached hair looking like faux caucasian women. Many GG/TS's who aren't resistant to dating black men, tend to be the size queen types or maybe younger girls really into hip-hop culture. Sure, there are many who are genuinely open-minded, but I've had several ask me at parties within 5-10 minutes, how big my dick is. I guess me being tall and Black, they just can't resist the question. Unfortunately, many Latin and Asian TS's are whitewashed. There was a link on AOL's homepage last Friday, to a thread on BlackVoices.com dealing with Eva Longoria (Desperate Housewives) not wanting to send her grandmother, a San Antonio Spurs calendar, as they still haven't told her boyfriend Tony Parker (S.A Spurs starting P.G) is half-black, because of her racial animous towards blacks. God forbid he was dark skin, 100% black and not rich and famous. Mind you, her grandmother still lives in Mexico, which means she has relatively no interaction with black people. Furthermore, there is rampant gang violence and crime amongst Mexicans in California and Texas. So, the "they are criminals shyt" don't cut it with me. It's a very visceral bias in these countries. She just told her grandmother, that Tony is French, which is true but misleading, as most people would assume he's white unless you clarify. This man is wealthy, famous, considered attractive by many women yet this broad has to hide him away from the older element of her Mexican family because of deep rooted racism. I remember hearing that Jennifer Lopez's family didn't like Puff Daddy for that reason. They were much more happy, when she started dating the drunken, womenizer Ben Affleck, who ended up dumping this broad, while they were engaged. What makes it more hilarious is that Ben's family didn't really care for him marrying a Puerto Rican and were happy when he left J-Lo for Jennifer Garner, whom he met filming that wack-ass "Daredevil" movie.

    If you are a light-skinned or quasi-Black looking man, you might fair better than a darker brotha would. Me personally, I'm medium complexioned and have curly hair, so I seem have moderate success with some TS's who normally wouldn't mess with a black dude. HA member
    "Cheez" probably has success for the same reasons, based on his prior posts in this thread. I remember a TS named Erica from Atlanta, posting in another HA thread how the black men she would consider dating, would have to resemble actor Boris Kodjoe (this guy was a male supermodel before his acting career took off). I'm sure her white clients don't have to resemble a male model. Even on this very site, you have many white HA members, articulate how the only black TS/GG's they like, are those who are light skinned with Eurocentric facial features. Basically, those who are or look biracial like (i.e Halle Berry, Alicia Keys, Beyonce Knowles or Mya). So, a black guy (even myself) can't empirically say an escort doesn't have issues with black guys, when his physical appearance is a little more diluted from the standpoint of blackness. If you think what I'm saying is psychobabble or "blaming whitey". Let me share an incident that happened last week. Mind you I've had several encounters like this before. I was waiting in the subway station, as I had just left my mother's house (badly in need of some home cooking). Anyway, I had my head in my hand taking a semi-nap, as it was about 11PM and I had to go to work the next morning. Anyway, I hear some women talking in front of me, I look up and there are 2 young girls about 17-18 years old and an older girl who was in her mid to late thirties (maybe their mother, aunt or older sibling). They were of Hispanic descent. Anyway, I attempted to return to my nap, when I heard about 2 minutes later from one girl to the other "What do you know about good looking guys, you date black guys". The older women sensing that this might be offensive (even though she was probably in agreement) whispers to her to keep her voice down, the other girl says "Well the black guys I date are light and cute". So, I know from what I speak. I personally think in their youthful ignorance, they were articulating a sentiment very common in their culture and many trannies are no different, even though they themselves are victims of rampant prejudice. I think 10-20 years ago, when the TS culture was very underground, the girls were less discriminating. However, with the money and popularity from escorting and movies, coupled with better plastic surgery and other feminizing procedures, some of the girls have become more arrogant and discriminating than their GG counterparts. I remember having a similar incident with a Latin GG, when I was 19 years old. I had a summer internship in Wall Street area, while home for the summer break. Anyway, there were these 3 young girls soliciting donations for some organization and this tall, busty latina rolls up on me and says "Would you like to donate $5.00 for this charity" and they give you some flower in return. It seemed flim-flammy to me, plus my internship paid minimum wage, so money was real tight. I say "no thank you", she says "Well would you donate for my telephone number", so me being a breast man I say alright. It was obvious in my mind from the door, that she was feeling me, by the way she ran up on me. She literally spotted me half way up the block and waited, so I didn't feel like she wasn't feeling me or else I wouldn't have ponied up the dough. Anyway, while writing down her number she says "I normally don't like black guys, but you look different, that's why I'm giving you my number". As much as I was attracted to her, I threw that chick's number away. I can't tolerate colorstruck people of color; it's a sign of a colonialized/slave mentality. The "light is right" mantra that has the darker people in all countries living in the most poverty, be it the North America/U.S, Central America, South America, Carribean, S.E Asia, India and the Middle East. No matter where you go, the thing those countries have in common is European colonialism, so I am no longer suprised by the "I don't date black guys thing", especially when it comes from other non-whites. Sure, some girls have had some negative experiences, but it's still rooted in stereotypes. No matter how many bad relationships a white woman has had with white man, you'll never here them swear off white men. They'll just as soon, swear off the entire gender and become a lesbian. However, Black, Latin, Asian women are quick to say "I don't date my own kind anymore" and run into the arms of a White man, using some stereotypical nonsensical reason(s). There was a white woman Sarah Jane Porter, 43 who contracted HIV from a black boyfriend and intentionally set out to infect as many black men as she could. She is thought to have had unprotected sex with dozens of black men. A former boyfriend said she set out on a callous payback mission. “She caught HIV from a black guy and now she’s set on infecting as many black men as she possibly can.” Another boyfriend told her he had contracted HIV, she led him on to believe he may have infected her, when in reality, she had infected. Porter was jailed for only 32 months. While she was out on bail, she continued trying to infect black men she met at bars, with no end in sight. Her parents, Henry 72, and Anita, 70, were devastated by the news. They had no idea until they heard it on the news. Porter is also the mother of a bi-racial son. I mentioned this story, because it's an extreme example of how people take the negative actions of one or a few black men, then want to paint the entire race with one broad stroke. I highly doubt she would have tried to infect the entire population of white males, if she had contracted the disease from a white guy.

    Brothers, all I can say is "Get in where you fit in". It pains me to see brothers in the street and in nightclubs, groveling before Asian, Latin or White women who clearly aren't interested in them or any black men for that matter. Stand upright and be proud, jeeesh!
    Beatmaker, way to rock the mic

    Many of your comments and insights were 'spot on'
    as the British might say.

    For myself personally, though I don't escort I am open
    to being in a relationship with a man of any race, creed,
    or color, as long as he met my other criteria: integrity,
    intelligence, sense of humor, emotional stability, etc.



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    Peggygee I posted something somewhere about a couple of tg's that seemed to be kool people. I mistakenly left you off of that list. Your post are always wonderful to read whether I agree with them or not.

    Beatmaker: What can I say, well written, lots of great insight. I agree with some of your points. It must suck to live in this world when your a black male.
    BUT, I have no guilt for liking a particular "LOOK" with my women. If it is Euro/asian/latin/african-based features, so be it. C. Zeta-Jones is prettier to me than Oprah. Oprah might be one of the better humans on earth, but I don't think I'm a racist for liking the looks of Zeta -Jones better.(btw, i do think Z-J is on the heavy side!!!) . If Z-J was darker, and Oprah was lilly white, then To me Z-J would be still be more stunning.

    If I like thin hard-body types, I should be allowed, without being called a racist. I like 18 year old smooth shaved, light-skinned cute girls best. Next would be 18 year old smoothed shaved slightly darker-skinned cute girls. Does that make me a racist or a closet child molester?
    I hear the same argument with music. Mozart was only famous and respected because of a euro- slant on history. Just because there is a euro-slant on our history, doesn't mean he was NOT deserving of his acomplishments.



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    Quote Originally Posted by tg4me
    Peggygee I posted something somewhere about a couple of tg's that seemed to be kool people. I mistakenly left you off of that list. Your post are always wonderful to read whether I agree with them or not.

    Beatmaker: What can I say, well written, lots of great insight. I agree with some of your points. It must suck to live in this world when your a black male.
    BUT, I have no guilt for liking a particular "LOOK" with my women. If it is Euro/asian/latin/african-based features, so be it. C. Zeta-Jones is prettier to me than Oprah. Oprah might be one of the better humans on earth, but I don't think I'm a racist for liking the looks of Zeta -Jones better.(btw, i do think Z-J is on the heavy side!!!) . If Z-J was darker, and Oprah was lilly white, then To me Z-J would be still be more stunning.

    If I like thin hard-body types, I should be allowed, without being called a racist. I like 18 year old smooth shaved, light-skinned cute girls best. Next would be 18 year old smoothed shaved slightly darker-skinned cute girls. Does that make me a racist or a closet child molester?
    I hear the same argument with music. Mozart was only famous and respected because of a euro- slant on history. Just because there is a euro-slant on our history, doesn't mean he was NOT deserving of his acomplishments.
    Thank you for the compliment, you seem like a nice person as well.

    As to physical attractiveness, while of course it is somewhat important, I try to see the beauty within, and not just focus on the external facade.

    And though I am NOT really look for an LTR as I m working on professional and personal goals at the moment here is one of my profiles.



    Ad Information

    Category: Transsexual

    Subcategories: Long Term Relationship

    I am post-op

    Aim: Realtime LTR

    Age Range: Who's counting

    Marital Status: Widowed

    Race/Ethnicity: Black

    Body Type: Average

    Smoker?: No

    Last book I read: Wherever You Go There You Are

    Sexual Orientation Bisexual

    Spiritual Orientation: Spiritual Seeker

    My vote for the most important person in history: My Mom

    Description:

    You have been in my thoughts, often times you are in my dreams, many moments you are in my fantasies. You're very sweet, compassionate, a great communicator. You have a hell of a sense of humor and are quite intelligent.I know that you are out there, the question is why haven't we met.

    I am a post-operative transgendered woman. I am 5 11, attractive and passable. The man who is occupying so much of my thoughts is a hetero male who is open to dating with the possiblity for a LTR "if" we were to click.

    With my sense of humor, and love of conversation, it seems as if we would be a natural. I'm very classy, sophisticated, and intelligent, and what gentleman wouldn't be desirous of that.

    I am very passionate, and sexually adventurous with the right person. I'm very loyal, just as long as you're on the up and up.

    I am not looking for a one night stand, or putting notches on my bedpost or yours.I am open to any race, would like you to be close to my height, and not grossly overweight.

    If a lovely lady like myself has been "in your thoughts", then by all means, please drop me a line. You will find me very approachable, and very easy to talk with.

    Hoping to make that dream of mine a reality.



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    And since that ad seems to draw out all the 'lookie-loos', 'wanna-bees', and time wasters, I have another ad that more thorughly scrutinizes applicants:



    Alpha Female

    Ad Information:

    Category: Transsexual

    Subcategories: I'm the dominant type

    Aim: Realtime LTR

    Age Range: Who's counting anymore?

    Marital Status: Single

    Race/Ethnicity Black

    Body Type: Larger than average

    Smoker?: No

    Last book I read: Mastering Windows Server 2003

    Sexual Orientation: Bisexual

    Spiritual Orientation: Spiritual Seeker

    My vote for the most important person in history: My Mom

    Description

    Bright, brainy,sometimes brash, a bit of the bad ass, as comfortable in the boardroom as in the bedroom.

    Not at all into the BDSM scene, but I will command your repect, and it shall be given in kind.

    I am a post operative transgendered woman.

    I'm very loyal, intelligent, passionate, sophisticated, great sense of humor, and I am expecting the same of you.

    Seeking male for possible LTR.

    The viable candidate should be between 35 - 55.

    If you are under 35 , you most likely will not fulfill my cerebral needs. If you are over 55, then you most likely will not be able to meet my physical needs.

    If you are a current substance abuser, then you need not apply, as we have a zero tolerance policy as regards that area.

    To be considered for this position, please submit a detailed email, stating your qualifications.

    Additionally, kindly submit a recent photo with your email.

    Please read the profile carefully before submitting an email. Incomplete applications, applications without a facial photo, and applications of a rude, crude, or lewd nature, will not be considered.

    Thank You,.



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    The majority of men I see are black. That is not because I discriminate based on race. I discriminate based on personality. Men who are dumb or assholes turn me off to the point where I just cannot do it. Assholes comes in all colors.

    Look closely at Beatmakers post. He has his own bias.

    Look closely at Beatmakers posting. He is all about the Hispanic women. Do I have a little professional jealosy over the preference people have for hispanic women? Yes. Why? I have had to see the look in too many men's eye's change when I told them I was not hispanic. It is like I went from being really hot to just ok looking and somehow less interesting.
    Even black men have acted like that.

    Who can blame them? Turn on a TV and If you see a TS I guarantee you will see one of two things. A older transsexual who looks pathetically unpassable and is usually white. Or something about a young transsexual, usually hispanic, who has to tell her bf she has a larger penis than his. Black transsexuals aren't even on the radar.

    I would be interested to know how often the black men complaining about this patronize a black transsexual escort?

    (This does not translate to not liking hispanic TS's personally. Most of my friends and associates have been hispanic.)



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    [quote="BrendaQG"]I have had to see the look in too many men's eye's change when I told them I was not hispanic. It is like I went from being really hot to just ok looking and somehow less interesting.
    Even black men have acted like that.[quote]

    I'm sorry about that, Brenda. I wouldn't act that way toward you if we ever were to meet. As for any man who does respond to you in that fashion, that's his loss, not yours. Remember that.



    [quote="BrendaQG"]I would be interested to know how often the black men complaining about this patronize a black transsexual escort? [quote]

    I don't have racial biases when it comes to women to whom I am attracted, GG or TG. I do admit I generally prefer women (regardless of race or ethnicity) whose skin is not darker than mine (mine is medium-to-borderline-dark), but I'll definitely make exceptions [i]based upon the person. Again, this is purely an aesthetic thing, not a racial one. So yes, if I were patronizing escorts, black ladies are on my list, same as any other.

    P.S. peggygee, I love your posts. You are clearly one of the most intelligent and thoughtful posters on this board. (And your bourdoir avatar--man, I'm FREEZING! I need to move to where the heat is. )



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    I love black men, ordinary guys I enjoy them loving me but don't see anything great in them but blck men, I love that skin. And the cocks . . . . .

    Sorry if this is racial prejudice (I suppose it is) but it's not like I donj't enjoy and give a good time to white / asian guys - I just love black men[/img]
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    Speaking of pathetically unpassable and white...hahahahaha



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    Nevermind Zoe. I think you're attractive.



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    My outlook about blackmen being desirable is not as bleak as what I'm reading in a few post here.

    I mean, there is something I just love about being a black man when it comes to dating. I has nothing to do with the "penis size" theory, but more of a swagger thing. Its like nobody wants to be with us, but at the same time, everybody wants to be with us. I honestly think brothas are one of the few groups that can choose just about any female they want. You see it all the time. You see brothas with fine asians, latinas, whites (and not just the fat ones, look at Seal). And they say brothas always prefer to date outside their race, but I think we just have a lot of options . And I've been to other places, Mexico, Spain, France, the sticks up in Oregon, New England, Canada. What I found is, that while there are a few folks who want nothing to do with you, there are also a good number that will ensure that you have company . Even in places were you wouldn't think we would get any love, you'll find some willing to test the taboo (for example, do you know how many women gave marriage proposals to Jesse Owens during Nazi-era Germany)

    So thats how I feel. A bright side approach.



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