Has HA Become Politically Correct?

[whatsupwithat]

Whether a women is an escort, or in the sex industry, she is still a human being and worthy of respect.

This is the most important point and underlies all of the other issues.

[Coroner]

yeah but how many people (mostly guys) are out there who share the same view?

I would support any girl here in the SRS-case. although I´m a fan of pre-op girls, so that´s the reason why i´m here, this website is called hung angels, i wouldn´t have a problem with the girl that wants to undergo SRS and she would have my totally support. she is an individual and she makes her on decisions and nobody has the right to piss on them just because their own dreams. it´s not a toy or holidays they have always dreamt of, it´s a very important part of their identity and this is no fun.

sure I´m sexually sad if my favourite girls undergo the SRS but i don´t think with my balls, so the sadness dissapears when i know that they are happy with themselves.

[Quickman]

Men and women voice their displeasure all the time whenever say, their favorite celebrity gets married or somehow becomes unavailable. Obviously, in most cases it's not because their selfish people or wish the famous person unhappiness.

Perhaps the line gets crossed in this forum by people who go to the point of expressing their distain for SRS in general.

It's kinda like knocking the institution marriage just because Brad P. got Angelina.

People would be correct, (politically or not) to engage you in such a case.

So I suppose the bottom line IMHO, is

1) It's okay to own up your feelings whatever they might be.
But...
2) Respect the rights of others to make their own choices, particularly when it comes to choices that affect their own bodies or well-being.

[RangeHova]

Whether a women is an escort, or in the sex industry, she is still a human being and worthy of respect.

This is the most important point and underlies all of the other issues.

But how much real respect can you expect on a porn board? How much respect can you expect from guys who only come here for jackoff material?

Sure, these girls are humans but if you really are honest about the mentality that men have towards most women in porn they don't see then in the same vein as the woman in the mall, the woman walking donw the street or the woman at work.

Porn is almost an escapism for men. Hell some of the shit that might turn me on in a porno is shit that would turn me off in real life. When I was a kid I used to be a huge tittie fan, I mean the ridiculously overly huge implants. It was my fetish. I wanted to fuck girls like that but did I want one on my arm at a party, taking her home to mom, or sitting beside me in a church pew? No. I wasn't viewing them as anything other than visual stimulation. I think if we think act like that is not what porn models mean to most porn watchers then we are lying to ourselves.

[RangeHova]

I truly appreciate your honesty, and from your other posts on the post op topic, I do have a sense of where you are coming from. Further, I realize that at the core for you this may not be coming from a mean spirited place.

I'm glad that you see where I'm coming from. Actually this is more of an act of me checking myself. I too have been the person more likely to come down on the anti postop posters. I have engaged in the PC actions that I speak of. I'm just realizing that I can't fully expect guys that haven't had real life non sexual experiences with transwomen to not see beyond what gets them off.

[peggygee]

I truly appreciate your honesty, and from your other posts on the post op topic, I do have a sense of where you are coming from. Further, I realize that at the core for you this may not be coming from a mean spirited place.

I'm glad that you see where I'm coming from. Actually this is more of an act of me checking myself. I too have been the person more likely to come down on the anti postop posters. I have engaged in the PC actions that I speak of. I'm just realizing that I can't fully expect guys that haven't had real life non sexual experiences with transwomen to not see beyond what gets them off.

Though I am slighly confused, are you attempting
to help these guys see the error of their ways.

Or are you being a devils advocate.

For once again, I will say if a guy doesn't have a vested
interest in the transcommunity, he shouldn't have a say so.
And even then it is a fairly limited say so.

If he is just some guy looking at dick picks, he doesn't get a vote.

Perhaps the guy who has had a relationship with a transwoman,
would know wherof he speaks.

But the guy who doesn't walk the walk, doesn't get to talk the talk.

Going to a provider once a month, or wanking off to internet
porn doesn't give you much say so other than to say that's
not the type of porn you like or don't like.

Without being redundant most of the guys here don't have a clue
as to what's going on with a Tgirl from the waist up

[gaiseric]

Thought I better add a couple of comments to this thread as I have had a go at people over their attitudes to post-op girls. For myself, I have been with both pre-op and post-op girls and I'm happy to be with both. My lady is a pre-op TS but if she decided to go post op tomorrow I would still love her as she would be the same person inside.

I appreciate that people have different likes and dislikes but on a forum like this, no-one is being forced to go onto a thread and have a go at someone because they don't like the body, breasts, penis or lack of etc.

The only times I have had a go at anyone on this topic are when someone complains that the girl is being 'selfish' by having the op or when someone goes onto a post-op thread and posts a one word comment such as 'yuck'. Again, if you don't like the subject matter, you don't have to look at it.

And, please, don't come back at me with the comment that this is an open forum and people can say what they like. That is purely a cop out for those amongst us who merely want to be rude and offensive.

[AllanahStarrNYC]

What I do not particulary understand- is how so many men on thos board swear up and down that they like gg's as well- yet so many fiend for the largest dick around, even on a cd with a wig and a padded bra on (I am not pasing judgement, just statign facts)- yet when a girl undergoes SRS it's almost like she commited some unforgiveable crime to somw? I wish someone would help me understand this better because quite frankly that reasoning is a bit flawed. i think the truth of the matter is, is that there are alot of men on this board whose preffrence overall is pre-op transsexuals but they use the , 'i like women too', as some sort of gaurd when in fact they might find women sexually attractive-but generally seek pre-op girls.

[whatsupwithat]

What I do not particulary understand- is how so many men on thos board swear up and down that they like gg's as well- yet so many fiend for the largest dick around, even on a cd with a wig and a padded bra on (I am not pasing judgement, just statign facts)- yet when a girl undergoes SRS it's almost like she commited some unforgiveable crime to somw? I wish someone would help me understand this better because quite frankly that reasoning is a bit flawed. i think the truth of the matter is, is that there are alot of men on this board whose preffrence overall is pre-op transsexuals but they use the , 'i like women too', as some sort of gaurd when in fact they might find women sexually attractive-but generally seek pre-op girls.

Well, my ex ( a pre-op ts) used to say that if you put a skirt on a telephone pole, guys would be all over it.

But, seriously, you just opened up a whole new can of worms there, Allanah. I've talked about this a lot on this board and off this board...the confusion, the shame, the secrecy of men who are attracted to pre-op girls.

Do you know that there's no term for guys who like pre-op transsexuals? You've got a whole new gender and no societal recognition for the men and women that are attracted to that gender. Oh, there's "admirers" and "tranny chasers" and "the men who like them"...all degrading terms. There's not one specific positive term or name for men like myself.

Did you know there's no support group for guys like myself, no place to go and rap with other guys about the issues and problems and emotions and prejudice we face? Nada. Nothing. I don't mean to make this into a "us poor men" rant. Because, face it, the majority of the guys on here are living double lives...living in shame of their desires and wants. I liken where we are today to what it must have been like to be gay in the 50's. The sham marriages, the secret meeting places...the ts scene reeks of it. And it does nothing but hurt us all.

I'm rambling because there's just so much to say and do. As a community, we're looking at, standing at a major turning point. We can't rely on the gay or straight communities to come to our rescue. We have be out loud and proud of who we are. We have to own who we are. WE have to support and look out for each other. We have to work through all of these issues ourselves.

In the end, it's up to us to define who we are. No one else will do it for us.

[peggygee]

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The name of this site is HungAngels.

RangeHova
Junior Poster


Joined: 14 Aug 2004
Posts: 349


Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 1:21 am Post subject:

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I can't deny that if you are looking at a strictly sexual level, which is all we get from 99% of the girls, that these girls are unique because they have something that most women do not have.

But I'll be damn if there are not some that either have particularly beautiul dicks, do special things with them or just attract you in some unique way.

I am happy for a girl like Danielle Fix, really I am. But I would be lying if I said that there was not a part of me that will miss what she brings to video and pictures with her very unique connection to her very pretty penis.

She is so much more than that, I'm sure. It shines through in her videos. But had not she had a penis many of us may not have ever seen that in her.

Sorry of I am politicaly incorrect, but I am just being honest. I don't think too many of us don't, on some level, love dick on our women.


AllanahStarrNYC
A Hot HungAngel


Joined: 30 Jun 2003
Posts: 2327
Location: Manhattan

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 4:08 pm Post subject:

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What I do not particulary understand- is how so many men on thos board swear up and down that they like gg's as well- yet so many fiend for the largest dick around, even on a cd with a wig and a padded bra on (I am not pasing judgement, just statign facts)- yet when a girl undergoes SRS it's almost like she commited some unforgiveable crime to somw? I wish someone would help me understand this better because quite frankly that reasoning is a bit flawed. i think the truth of the matter is, is that there are alot of men on this board whose preffrence overall is pre-op transsexuals but they use the , 'i like women too', as some sort of gaurd when in fact they might find women sexually attractive-but generally seek pre-op girls.

I don't know, I guess I need to get that 'Hooked On
Phonics' DVD you see on TV, cause I guess my reading
comprehension skills ain't what I thought they were.

I of course saw the large 48 font that said
'The Hung Angels Board'. But my eyes tended
to more often see the smaller size 14 font
HungAngels - Guide to Shemales
and Transsexuals Forum Index -> General Discussion.

To me that meant that the board was geared to
tne entire range of tranwomen, non op, pre op,
post op. Thus I erroneously thought that the men
were interested in Tgirls in general.

However on more than one occasion, and in this
thread in particular it has been driven home to me,
that most guys want COCK, and that's cool.

Thus I propose, a change in the name of the board.
And maybe the cock lovers could wear these
tshirts, so that we could differentiate them from
the guys who like all women, irregardless of
what's between their legs.


Perhaps this will prevent other women or guys
that 'truly ' like women from being confused.


Oh, and you may want to go with the matching shorts,
you know in case you are in the locker room, on the
way to the shower.


But do be careful in there, if you see a cock, cause I
would hate like heck for you to have to post another
Am I Gay, If, thread?

And by all means if the soap drops, leave it on the floor,
as a matter of fact get some soap on a rope. That is unless
you really like .....