Has HA Become Politically Correct?

[RangeHova]

I notice how we jump on some guys who are anti postop. I do it myself. We call them dick crazy and say that they don’t give a shit about the girl and only want the dick. I have seen us team up on them and throw verbal blows to guys for stating how they feel a loss or sadness from a girl choosing to get SRS.

Lets face facts, this discussion here os based in the realm or porn. In this realm the people looking at the pictures for the most part are more concerned with how turned on the girl in the picture makes them. These guys are not here to give a damn about the actresses or models beyond that.

Most of these guys have never even meet a TS. The ones that have in most cases have not had any interaction beyond plopping down some cash for a few minutes of cheap unconnected meaningless sex with and escort. These same guys probably wouldn’t speak to these girls in public. I would say that very few guys in this forum have actually had a relationship with a TS that was not sexual, yeah I mean a real actual friend.

Don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying that guys that deal with the girls are bad uncaring people. But in a porn based world, you gotta expect that a great deal of these guys aren’t going to be happy when the object of their desire decides to remove the thing that makes them most attractive to them.

If you are only attracted to women with long hair and your wife decides to get a buzz cut, or if you like heavy women and you favorite fuck buddy loses a lot of weight it will change things on some level for how you see them. In an unconnected world like porn it is even more the case and even more when you look at what some deem one of the fetish wings of porn. Most of us here don’t know shit about these girls except how they look unclothed,most of us really don't want to know anything beyond that.

That is no slight on these women as transwomen or as women at all. It is just a part of being in the business. It is a part of you being the sex symbols that you are for so many guys here.

I for one think guys would be surprised to see how special these girls are beyond this porn view, beyond how big their dicks are and beyond how hard they make your dick. I personally find many Ts women to be unique and special rather they have a half inch, 19 inches or have had SRS. But I don’t think because I have this so-called enlightened view that makes me better than the guy who just wants to look at a hot cock and jack off. After all this is a porn site.

The bad thing is that the best place for guys who really like the girls to discuss that like is in such a sex first forum. It then becomes a batle btween the guys here just for jackoff material and those more into the girls.

[la2bkk]

I've also found it curious how some on this board chatise others for "anti post op" preferences. No one is passing judgment on any particular girl's decision. It's her right, and all the power to freedom of preference.

But many don't view this forum as the TS equivalent of Match.com or the Dr. Phil Show. Hello...? The name of this site is HungAngels.

I suspect many men, like me, have met TS girls and appreciate the opportunity. We simply enjoy the site as a nice diversion- fantasy stuff. That's a preference that should also be respected.

[peggygee]

I notice how we jump on some guys who are anti postop. I do it myself. We call them dick crazy and say that they don’t give a shit about the girl and only want the dick. I have seen us team up on them and throw verbal blows to guys for stating how they feel a loss or sadness from a girl choosing to get SRS.

Lets face facts, this discussion here os based in the realm or porn. In this realm the people looking at the pictures for the most part are more concerned with how turned on the girl in the picture makes them. These guys are not here to give a damn about the actresses or models beyond that.

Most of these guys have never even meet a TS. The ones that have in most cases have not had any interaction beyond plopping down some cash for a few minutes of cheap unconnected meaningless sex with and escort. These same guys probably wouldn’t speak to these girls in public. I would say that very few guys in this forum have actually had a relationship with a TS that was not sexual, yeah I mean a real actual friend.

Don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying that guys that deal with the girls are bad uncaring people. But in a porn based world, you gotta expect that a great deal of these guys aren’t going to be happy when the object of their desire decides to remove the thing that makes them most attractive to them.

If you are only attracted to women with long hair and your wife decides to get a buzz cut, or if you like heavy women and you favorite fuck buddy loses a lot of weight it will change things on some level for how you see them. In an unconnected world like porn it is even more the case and even more when you look at what some deem one of the fetish wings of porn. Most of us here don’t know shit about these girls except how they look unclothed,most of us really don't want to know anything beyond that.

That is no slight on these women as transwomen or as women at all. It is just a part of being in the business. It is a part of you being the sex symbols that you are for so many guys here.

I for one think guys would be surprised to see how special these girls are beyond this porn view, beyond how big their dicks are and beyond how hard they make your dick. I personally find many Ts women to be unique and special rather they have a half inch, 19 inches or have had SRS. But I don’t think because I have this so-called enlightened view that makes me better than the guy who just wants to look at a hot cock and jack off. After all this is a porn site.

The bad thing is that the best place for guys who really like the girls to discuss that like is in such a sex first forum. It then becomes a batle btween the guys here just for jackoff material and those more into the girls.

la2bkk Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 12:48 am Post subject: --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I've also found it curious how some on this board chatise others for "anti post op" preferences. No one is passing judgment on any particular girl's decision. It's her right, and all the power to freedom of preference.

But many don't view this forum as the TS equivalent of Match.com or the Dr. Phil Show. Hello...? The name of this site is HungAngels.

I suspect many men, like me, have met TS girls and appreciate the opportunity. We simply enjoy the site as a nice diversion- fantasy stuff. That's a preference that should also be respected

I am a post op transwoman, but that's not the reason I come down on anti post op people, it is because they want to condemn or chastise a woman for the choices, she makes with her body.

By NO stretch of the imagination do I feel that the vast majority of transwoman want, NOR should have GRS. For the majority of them it is not appropriate or desired.

However, as you have clearly stated to you these women are walking, talking penises, something to fulfill your fantasies and desires.

And if there are transwomen that feel comfortable doing that, then that too is their prerogative, for again they have final say so over their bodies and decsisions.

To you they are penis receptacles, or sexual objects. To me, theyt are my Sisters and in many instances my friends.

Now, I don't know about you, but where I am from (and it's not the land where we kick terrorists ass)we don't allow folks we care about to get hurt, we don't roll like that.

Whether a women is an escort, or in the sex industry, she is still a human being and worthy of respect.

Gentleman, again this is not at all about sex changes, but rather about common courtesy, respect, and a modicum of decency.

[RangeHova]

I have been guilty of passing that judgement until there were times when some girl that I liked in that porn kind of way decided to go all the way.

On a personal level, I can be happy for a girl accomplishing such a major task in her life in the persuit of feeling like a whole human being.

I can't deny that if you are looking at a strictly sexual level, which is all we get from 99% of the girls, that these girls are unique because they have something that most women do not have. Being around transwomen since high school, it has become not that big of a deal for me. But I'll be damn if there are not some that either have particularly beautiul dicks, do special things with them or just attract you in some unique way.

I am happy for a girl like Danielle Fix, really I am. But I would be lying if I said that there was not a part of me that will miss what she brings to video and pictures with her very unique connection to her very pretty penis. She is so much more than that, I'm sure. It shines through in her videos. But had not she had a penis many of us may not have ever seen that in her.

I'm sure she will be no less sexy, she'll probably be sexier. I have seen that when girls get more happy and more complete that tends to happen. But seeing how i have never seen any girls do what she does with what she has. There is a sense of selfish loss on my part.

Sorry of I am politicaly incorrect, but I am just being honest. I don't think too many of us don't, on some level, love dick on our women.

[truplaya4real]

What's bizarre to me is the fact that the more feminine tgirls do not want to go post-op, while the older "tgirls"(if that's what you want to call them) who started transitioning when they were 49 or 50 insist on going post-op even though they still look like men.

[RangeHova]

Whetther a women is an escort, or in the sex industry, she is still a human being and worth of respect.

Gentleman, again this is not at all about sex changes, but rather about common courtesy and respect.

I feel what you are saying but I have seen us come down on a guy just for saying how he feels, even when they don't chastise a girl for her decision. I will admit to being perturbed by the guys that are dick, dick, dick, and more dick.

Still, there is just a part of me that feels like you can only expect a certain level of respect when you are talking about sex objects in the realm of porn.

Porn for the most part is fantasy and men's fantasies about women aren't always the most respectful. It is like the things that men express to thier close male friends about women cmpared to what they say in public. The things in our heads can be even deeper than what we tell our boys.

Sometimes respect becomes holding in what you really feel as to not hurt the feelings of others.

[peggygee]

I have been guilty of passing that judgement until there were times when some girl that I liked in that porn kind of way decided to go all the way.

On a personal level, I can be happy for a girl accomplishing such a major task in her life in the persuit of feeling like a whole human being.

I can't deny that if you are looking at a strictly sexual level, which is all we get from 99% of the girls, that these girls are unique because they have something that most women do not have. Being around transwomen since high school, it has become not that big of a deal for me. But I'll be damn if there are not some that either have particularly beautiul dicks, do special things with them or just attract you in some unique way.

I am happy for a girl like Danielle Fix, really I am. But I would be lying if I said that there was not a part of me that will miss what she brings to video and pictures with her very unique connection to her very pretty penis. She is so much more than that, I'm sure. It shines through in her videos. But had not she had a penis many of us may not have ever seen that in her.

I'm sure she will be no less sexy, she'll probably be sexier. I have seen that when girls get more happy and more complete that tends to happen. But seeing how i have never seen any girls do what she does with what she has. There is a sense of selfish loss on my part.

Sorry of I am politicaly incorrect, but I am just being honest. I don't think too many of us don't, on some level, love dick on our women.

I truly appreciate your honesty, and from your other posts on the post op topic, I do have a sense of where you are coming from. Further, I realize that at the core for you this may not be coming from a mean spirited place.

But what I would strongly suggest to the vast populace of men on this forum, is that they totally remove the word LOVE from any of their further posts in regards to their favorite person.

For clearly they only LUST for them, and that's okay. But please don't go around professing your undying love and devotion to someone for whom your only true attraction is their T & C & A, and rarely V.

Stop lying to yourselves, and to these women.

[AllanahStarrNYC]

This topic reminds me of od conversation I had here in Barcelona with the owner of a large ts forum in Spain. We were talking how here in Spain, and in many 'Latin' countries is is common to reffer to transsexuals as 'travestis' which means literally transvestite. He is aware that to an American TS that would be an insult, but I know that here in Spain, Brasil, France, Columbia, etc- 'travesti' is used to reffer to a pre-op, and transsexual reffers to a post op. Obviously I can't be offended by this because it is cultural- but not to stray to far from the topic- we were doign an interview and he asked me about SRS and I gave him my opinion. Then he shocked me with something I have heard before from many preo-op lovers and he said 'my recommendation is don't do it'. Not that I had asked, and trust me this is a very nice guy, but if I had a $100 for everytime I heard a guy tell me 'never get it cut off', or 'you are never going to do that are you?', well you get the picture.

I think it is quite comical to give someone advice- especially unsolicited advice- about having SRS, from someone who has no qualifications on SRS except for the fact that one is attracted to pre ops and views post ops as sexualy undesireable.

I think this atitude is prevalent in the ts admirers community. And maybe one day the fetishist will realize that the descion to have SRS, to get implants, or a nose job- has little to do with what they like sexually- and are all highly personal decisions that should only really involve the patient, surgeon, and therapist; to decide there of. I have long learned to not asked for others opinions on surgical procedures because I will end up doing what I want to do initially anyway.

Funny thing is I don't tell the guys with small dicks to get penile implants or the one's who are bald to get hair transplants or the fat ones to get liposuction. Funny thing is many men have the need to tell me not to get SRS.Just as I stay out of others personal surgical or non surgical choices (unless asked) of others, then they should stay out of mine and other ts girls-especially when it comes to SRS.

[oneandonly]

what do you expect on "hung angels" big dick is what the guys on this board like.
of course they dont like post ops

and

after seeing pics of post-op, i would say dont do it. To me the results, even in the best cases, it doesn't look quite right.

but if you want to get it go for it.
that is also one of the problems i have with this board/ transensexual in the adult industry is that they have penises. form my understanding most ts dont like the fact that they have a penis.

i am just all-a-round confused with transsexuals.

[la2bkk]

This topic reminds me of od conversation I had here in Barcelona with the owner of a large ts forum in Spain. We were talking how here in Spain, and in many 'Latin' countries is is common to reffer to transsexuals as 'travestis' which means literally transvestite. He is aware that to an American TS that would be an insult, but I know that here in Spain, Brasil, France, Columbia, etc- 'travesti' is used to reffer to a pre-op, and transsexual reffers to a post op. Obviously I can't be offended by this because it is cultural- but not to stray to far from the topic- we were doign an interview and he asked me about SRS and I gave him my opinion. Then he shocked me with something I have heard before from many preo-op lovers and he said 'my recommendation is don't do it'. Not that I had asked, and trust me this is a very nice guy, but if I had a $100 for everytime I heard a guy tell me 'never get it cut off', or 'you are never going to do that are you?', well you get the picture.

I think it is quite comical to give someone advice- especially unsolicited advice- about having SRS, from someone who has no qualifications on SRS except for the fact that one is attracted to pre ops and views post ops as sexualy undesireable.

I think this atitude is prevalent in the ts admirers community. And maybe one day the fetishist will realize that the descion to have SRS, to get implants, or a nose job- has little to do with what they like sexually- and are all highly personal decisions that should only really involve the patient, surgeon, and therapist; to decide there of. I have long learned to not asked for others opinions on surgical procedures because I will end up doing what I want to do initially anyway.

Funny thing is I don't tell the guys with small dicks to get penile implants or the one's who are bald to get hair transplants or the fat ones to get liposuction. Funny thing is many men have the need to tell me not to get SRS.Just as I stay out of others personal surgical or non surgical choices (unless asked) of others, then they should stay out of mine and other ts girls-especially when it comes to SRS.

I'm a pre-op fan. That's no doubt the majority around here. Nonetheless, anyone who passes judgment against a girl's decision to go forward with surgery isn't worth taking seriously. Same re those customers/fans who advise you against it ... obviously irrelevant.

Personally, I may never have the pleasure of meeting you. You might be the sweetest. most charming woman I've ever met. But, like most, the best I'll get is fantasy stuff. That fantasy is premised upon the fact that you have a lovely body, great creativity in your shoots and a cock.

Is it possible that most who offer their opinions against your surgery are simply showing their admiration for you now (albeit inartfully)?