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    This news report from Bayerischer Rundfunk explains in detail the cooperation between the Nazis and the Muslim Arab leaders during WW2.

    It goes on to explain how high ranking heads of the SS fled to the Arab world and carried on their activities under the protection of leaders such as President Nasser and how modern Islam has adopted a Nazi style ideology of hate and conspiracy against the Jews.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TFan
    This news report from Bayerischer Rundfunk explains in detail the cooperation between the Nazis and the Muslim Arab leaders during WW2.

    It goes on to explain how high ranking heads of the SS fled to the Arab world and carried on their activities under the protection of leaders such as President Nasser and how modern Islam has adopted a Nazi style ideology of hate and conspiracy against the Jews.

    Ha ha ha. Itīs been the same as today. During WWII, the masters were the Germans and today you got the Americans. All these arab states, theyīre all slaves a history that has never been written by themselves.

    What was America doing after the end of WWII? The US have been importing Nazi-strategists to construct plans that were used against the Soviets. Americaīs priority to come over to Europe was not defeating Hitler. It was to stop communism. With everything one can do to prevent communism.

    Weīll never find out how many Nazi-war criminals found their home in the states. Your government knew it all. Your government was the one whoīs invited them. Remember Americaīs favourite businnessman and "thinker":

    "In 1918, Ford's closest aide and private secretary Ernest G. Liebold purchased an obscure weekly newspaper, The Dearborn Independent, so that Ford could spread his views. By 1920 Ford had become virulently anti-Semitic and in March of that year began an anti-Jewish crusade in the pages of his newspaper.[9] The Independent ran for eight years, from 1920 until 1927, during which Liebold was editor. The newspaper published "Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion," which was discredited as a forgery during the Independent's publishing run by The Times of London. The American Jewish Historical Society describes the ideas presented in the magazine as "anti-immigrant, anti-labor, anti-liquor, and anti-Semitic". In February 1921, the New York World published an interview with Ford, in which he said "The only statement I care to make about the Protocols is that they fit in with what is going on". During this period Ford emerged as "a respected spokesman for right-wing extremism and religious prejudice," reaching around 700,000 readers through his newspaper.[10]

    Along with the Protocols, anti-Jewish articles published by The Dearborn Independent were also released, in the early 1920s, as a set of four bound volumes, cumulatively titled The International Jew, the World's Foremost Problem. Vincent Curcio writes of these publications that "they were widely distributed and had great influence, particularly in Nazi Germany, where no less a personage than Adolph Hitler read and admired them. Hitler hung Ford's picture on the wall, and based several sections of Mein Kampf on his writings: indeed, Ford is the only American mentioned in Hitler's book. It can probably be said, as Lacey does, that "no American contributed as much to the evils of Nazism as Henry Ford."[11] Steven Watts writes that Hitler "revered" Ford, proclaiming that "I shall do my best to put his theories into practice in Germany," and modelling the Volkswagen, the people's car, on the model T."[12] In Mein Kampf (written in the mid-1920s) Hitler expressed the opinion that, "It is Jews who govern the stock exchange forces of the American Union. Every year makes them more and more the controlling masters of the producers in a nation of one hundred and twenty millions; only a single great man, Ford, to their fury, still maintains full independence."[13]

    Denounced by the Anti-Defamation League (ADL), the articles nevertheless explicitly condemned pogroms and violence against Jews (Volume 4, Chapter 80), preferring to blame incidents of mass violence on the Jews themselves.[14] None of this work was actually written by Ford, who wrote almost nothing according to trial testimony. Friends and business associates say they warned Ford about the contents of the Independent, and that Ford probably never read them. (He claimed he only read headlines.)[15] However, court testimony in a libel suit, brought by one of the targets of the newspaper, stated that Ford did indeed know about the contents of the Independent in advance of publication.[16]

    A libel lawsuit brought by San Francisco lawyer and Jewish farm cooperative organizer Aaron Sapiro in response to anti-Semitic remarks led Ford to close the Independent in December 1927. News reports at the time quoted him as being shocked by the content and having been unaware of its nature. During the trial, the editor of Ford's "Own Page", William Cameron, testified that Ford had nothing to do with the editorials even though they were under his byline. Cameron testified at the libel trial that he never discussed the content of the pages or sent them to Ford for his approval.[17] Investigative journalist Max Wallace noted that "whatever credibility this absurd claim may have had was soon undermined when James M. Miller, a former Dearborn Independent employee, swore under oath that Ford had told him he intended to expose Sapiro.[18]

    Michael Barkun observed, 'That Cameron would have continued to publish such controversial material without Ford's explicit instructions seemed unthinkable to those who knew both men. Mrs. Stanley Ruddiman, a Ford family intimate, remarked that "I don't think Mr. Cameron ever wrote anything for publication without Mr. Ford's approval"'.[19] According to Spencer Blakeslee,

    The ADL mobilized prominent Jews and non-Jews to publicly oppose Ford's message. They formed a coalition of Jewish groups for the same purpose, and raised constant objections in the Detroit press. Before leaving his presidency early in 1921, Woodrow Wilson joined other leading Americans in a statement that rebuked Ford and others for their antisemitic campaign. A boycott against Ford products by Jews and liberal Christians also had an impact, and Ford shut down the paper in 1927, recanting his views in a public letter to Sigmund Livingston, ADL.[20]

    Grand Cross of the German EagleFord subsequently became associated with the notorious anti-Semite Gerald L.K. Smith, who commented upon meeting Ford in the 1930s that he "was less anti-Semitic than Ford." Smith also remarked that, in 1940, Ford showed "no regret" for the Independent's anti-Semitic views, and "hoped to publish The International Jew again some time."[21] In the same year Ford told The Manchester Guardian that "international Jewish bankers" were responsible for World War II.[22]

    In 1938, the German consul at Cleveland gave Ford the award of the Grand Cross of the German Eagle, the highest medal that Nazi Germany could bestow on a foreigner,[23] while James D. Mooney, vice-president of overseas operations for General Motors, received a similar medal, the Merit Cross of the German Eagle, First Class.[24]

    Distribution of International Jew was halted in 1942, but extremist groups often recycle the material; it still appears on anti-Semitic and neo-Nazi websites."

    from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_F...rn_Independent

    Americaīs history was from the beginning a racist history and youīve still got the balls to start a thread about some arab slaves?

    Theyīve been supporting Hitler for their own interests, just like America did. Your people were dealing with Hitler. Guess what would happen if Hitler won, gringo.



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    Hereīs a quite good link about the good old red, white and blue.

    http://www.historycooperative.org/jo...1/pauwels.html



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    Good comeback, Coroner.

    Here are some links with more information on Prescott Bush, the President's grandfather:

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/...312540,00.html
    George Bush's grandfather, the late US senator Prescott Bush, was a director and shareholder of companies that profited from their involvement with the financial backers of Nazi Germany.

    The Guardian has obtained confirmation from newly discovered files in the US National Archives that a firm of which Prescott Bush was a director was involved with the financial architects of Nazism.
    http://www.nhgazette.com/cgi-bin/NHG...NN_Bush_Nazi_2
    After the seizures in late 1942 of five U.S. enterprises he managed on behalf of Nazi industrialist Fritz Thyssen, Prescott Bush, the grandfather of President George W. Bush, failed to divest himself of more than a dozen "enemy national" relationships that continued until as late as 1951, newly-discovered U.S. government documents reveal.

    http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0306/S00055.htm
    The Bush family reaped rewards from the forced labour prisoners in the Auschwitz concentration camp. Prescott Bush, the grandfather of the US president George W bush, during WW2 had financial links with the nazis, thanks to whom he made his fortune as a banker.
    There's more where that came from. I wonder if Republicans know the meaning of the word "hypocrisy".


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    Apart from the kook rant which I won`t even bother with,the main point is easily verified as fact.

    The Grand Mufti of Jerusalem glady joined forces with the NAZI`s as did the Muslim Brotherhood,which remain a force to this day.

    Check out the Grand mufti and his pals :
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    If we're talking about nations and peoples who aid warmongering or oppresive regimes, I wonder if you are aware that the US is or has been a major supplier of arms and training to:

    -Afghanistan, when they were fighting Russia
    -Turkey, who used them to invade Cyprus and massacre Kurds
    -Iraq who used them to oppress Iraqis and Kurds
    -Israel, who have used them to kill Palestinians and attack Lebanon
    -Warring rivals India AND Pakistan
    -Uzebkistan, Georgia, Colombia and other nations despite human rights abuses
    -Osama bin Laden, according to reports, when he was fighting the Soviets

    I am not saying the Republicans are the only ones to blame for all of the above. I'm just saying "enough, already!" So please change the subject before your really get me started.


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    Yeah thanks for those but they do not come close to hitler massacring jews or Muslims intention of doing the same under identical doctrine.

    Check this one out for those of you who can't read-

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=GC8gPaxV_O0


    Adolf Hitler Meets with Grand Mufti of Jerusalem Amin Al Husseini.



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    That Grand Mufti of Jerusalem was once visiting Europe to "bless" a bosnian muslim SS division, called the 13th. SS division "Handzar". But what does this tell? Nothing. Itīs been a bunch of quislings. A small group.

    That Grand Mufti was a figure of fun who had no other option than to dance when Hitlerīs music plays. Thatīs what you got today in Iraq. A so-called democratic and independent government.

    There was never a statement from Vatican during the war. For example, the conservative-catholic movement was the founder of the so-called "austrofascism" that was the only one system in Austria from 1934-1938, when Hitlerīs troops marched in.

    In Croatia, the Independent State of Croatia was proclaimed. It was nothing but a german satellite-state. That croatian state included also Bosnia and Herzegovina and the bosnian SS-division was just a part of a greater croatian (mostly catholic) army. The Catholic church in Croatia has officially welcomed the new fascist government. Thatīs why the Catholic church had to pay a huge price for their WWII acitivities during the post-war socialist Yugoslavia.

    Hitlerīs friendly relationships to various muslim communities were just of interest nature. It didnīt start in 1939, it was a new strategy from 1943 after his army suffered losses.

    Politics is a whore. That will never change.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Coroner
    That Grand Mufti of Jerusalem was once visiting Europe to "bless" a bosnian muslim SS division, called the 13th. SS division "Handzar". But what does this tell? Nothing. Itīs been a bunch of quislings. A small group.

    That Grand Mufti was a figure of fun who had no other option than to dance when Hitlerīs music plays. Thatīs what you got today in Iraq. A so-called democratic and independent government.


    Hitlerīs friendly relationships to various muslim communities were just of interest nature. It didnīt start in 1939, it was a new strategy from 1943 after his army suffered losses.

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    Revisionist non-sense.

    The Brotherhood commenced in the 1920s when an egyptian named al Bana formed the group (Muslim Brotherhood). Bana admired Hitler because of the Jew thing. The Muslim Brotherhood quickly became an arm of the NAZI party in the middle east.

    The jordanian/palestinian section was headed by the grand Mufti of Jerusalem. The Mufti ,as you can see from the photos,travelled to Germany to help create and recruit an international SS division of Arab Nazis. Based in Croatia, called the “Handjar” Muslim Division.



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    The Muslim brotherhood is a radical organisation but thereīs no connection to the Hanjar division.

    The Hanjar division was the army of BOSNIAN Naziīs and Bosnians are not Arabs. Bosnians and Croats are Slavs like the Czech people or the Polish. The SS Hanjar division was a sub-organisation of the croatian Ustasa-movement. Wherever you take a look, you see a world full of sold lifes, of quislings and slaves.



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