Love and Lust

[stillies77]

this is going way off topic haha

[hondarobot]

I don't think it's going off topic at all. It's becoming a complex, multi faceted examination of the thread topic, "Love and Lust". It's got all the classic hallmarks of a HA thread:

Vicki Richter makes a post that inspires many different reactions and critical analysis, guys start yelling, girls start screaming, I propose marriage to blondie, Slither makes one of his increasingly rare posts and delares "it's a fuckin shemale forum. . .", and we all learn a little more about the world we live in.

And the conservatives just lost the mid term elections. In Your Face!

[hondarobot]

Ok, things have seemed to calm down so let's take a closer examination of the post that started this thread:

"So many of you want to suck my shecock and swallow everything that comes out of me"

Well, good guys just want to make a girl be happy. What the hell is wrong with that? Licking and sucking a vagina to make it "squirt" is the same thing. You seem to be the one focused on this whole "shecock" aspect.

"You want to feel someone beautiful loves you."

That's an easy one. It's not hard to have beautiful people love you. Physical beauty is nice, but it's really just the paint you put on the wall.

"Instead all of you are posting spam in here about meaningless 'cum shots' or 'big shemale cocks'"

It's a shemale porn/escort site. Shemale porn stars post here. They are shemale pornstars because of "cum shots" and "big shemale cocks". What's the problem?

"This forum has become pic collectors heaven and the good guys who started this site have left. Megabody almost never posts."

Megabody still posts, and this forum is way better then it use to be, as far as I can tell.

"I want a love story. I want to hear a TS and a guy made it and it was real."

You'll have that. You're really pretty lucky in that regard, because I'm a pretty damn good, cool, and capable guy. I'll chase after you forever, and that's the truth. It's very rare for a girl to have an absolute, unwavering back-up like that, so you should appreciate it. And as a bonus, I'm not a crazy stalker. Just a dedicated (although frequently underappreciated) guy.

And yeah, you're a big movie star. . . great, love it.

I know a lot of other girls. This thing with us has been going on for two years now. . .

Everything is under control and proceeding as it should be.

[RawNY]

OK, I have been reading about this isue not only on this thread but in others over the years.
In my humble opinion, much of what goes on here is commercial and pure advertising for porn websites and escorts. If I am wrong then I challange any of the women who post here to stop complaining and to take their website links out of thir posts.
In the past I have posted in threads where pictures of obviously unattractive women have bee worshiped by what I call the "droolers" And please don't tell me everyone is beautiful, that is plain bullshit, be it a TG, GG or male.
With regard to a relationship. I am not an unattactive man. and would love to engage a TG in a "normal' relationship. I would love to spend time doing what other couples do and slowly developing the love which follows the lust. This is true even in male- female relationships. I am not sure where to start. I have been with Tg for over 20 years and have tried to stay away from $$$, it is very hard.
I have been to a few parties which have been advertised here. Getting there about 11, watching the parade of women come in about 12 and trying to stike up a conversation with some of them as has been suggested in other threads. ("just go up to them and say hi and talk like any other social situation where you are trying to meet someone").Sorry, dont work.
After being at Vapor a few times I had to leave because each time I was talking to someone it ended in "Do you want to spend some time with me?" Translation: put some money down and we can grope in the back. If I wanted a hooker I would go to Eros or the Village voice. If you say no they either walk away in a huff and complain to their friends or ask you to at least by them a drink ($10-$15) Is it any wonder most men give up and become voyeurs?
If I am wrong, then I would ask Sunny or Allanah to meet one night me and point out which of their regulars are simply looking to meet a nice guy who is not just infatuated with the unique situation, for lack of a better term.
Maybe there are other clubs or parties which are more conducive to social intercourse (no pun intended.) I hear stories of house parties, but no details. Maybe there are other website where that is the focus.
Sorry, but I had to get this off my chest and this seemed like the right time to do it. So, if there are any complaints then I think that women have to do some soul searching and make themself more avaiable for happiness than hustling.

[Vicki Richter]

OK, I have been reading about this isue not only on this thread but in others over the years.
In my humble opinion, much of what goes on here is commercial and pure advertising for porn websites and escorts. If I am wrong then I challange any of the women who post here to stop complaining and to take their website links out of thir posts.
In the past I have posted in threads where pictures of obviously unattractive women have bee worshiped by what I call the "droolers" And please don't tell me everyone is beautiful, that is plain bullshit, be it a TG, GG or male.
With regard to a relationship. I am not an unattactive man. and would love to engage a TG in a "normal' relationship. I would love to spend time doing what other couples do and slowly developing the love which follows the lust. This is true even in male- female relationships. I am not sure where to start. I have been with Tg for over 20 years and have tried to stay away from $$$, it is very hard.
I have been to a few parties which have been advertised here. Getting there about 11, watching the parade of women come in about 12 and trying to stike up a conversation with some of them as has been suggested in other threads. ("just go up to them and say hi and talk like any other social situation where you are trying to meet someone").Sorry, dont work.
After being at Vapor a few times I had to leave because each time I was talking to someone it ended in "Do you want to spend some time with me?" Translation: put some money down and we can grope in the back. If I wanted a hooker I would go to Eros or the Village voice. If you say no they either walk away in a huff and complain to their friends or ask you to at least by them a drink ($10-$15) Is it any wonder most men give up and become voyeurs?
If I am wrong, then I would ask Sunny or Allanah to meet one night me and point out which of their regulars are simply looking to meet a nice guy who is not just infatuated with the unique situation, for lack of a better term.
Maybe there are other clubs or parties which are more conducive to social intercourse (no pun intended.) I hear stories of house parties, but no details. Maybe there are other website where that is the focus.
Sorry, but I had to get this off my chest and this seemed like the right time to do it. So, if there are any complaints then I think that women have to do some soul searching and make themself more avaiable for happiness than hustling.

For the first 3-4 years of posting I didn't have a tag line for my site, but I did have a web site. Then other girls were doing it, and a lot of it. It became the defacto standard. My posts here tend to have more meaning and substance a greater percentage of the time than most other girls who have something to sell. Also keep in mind that this site used to have actual banners for many of the girls posting here that rotated on their referral program. They did away with that too. So honestly, if I add value to the forum, I really don't mind having a link in my sig.

You are right about what you mention. I am definitely not saying that most TS who come from a lower social class desire what I have commented on here. They aren't very forward thinking in many cases. If you read any of Megabody's posts on "hood rats" you will know what the girls like. So yes, if you goto a sex party where the theme is TS are sex objects, then you are probably not going to meet your LTR girl there. 99.9% of these girls are prostitutes and you are a trick. After all is said and done, a guy wanting a relationship with a prostitute could just be a trick who wants free sex and is insincere.

Are you going to enable her to give up her escorting somehow... someday? Have you been labeled a bottom by girls in that environment when most girls, preference wise, are secretly bottoms themselves? All these things add up. Unfortunately, for myself, I could never have a loving long term relationship with a bottom guy, no matter how nice or rich he was, because someday I will get SRS and then I can't compete with dick and the need for it that some guys have. I have no problem with guys of any sexuality and I think it's great for guys to do whatever gets them off. However, we all have to be realists.

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Hard to get a love story. Most everytime I have talked a beautiful girl its always about the money, so right away its turns into something else so it is hard to truly meet someone.

[stillies77]

same here

[yodajazz]

Back in the day, I would go to mixed gay clubs and see girls there. That was more of a chance for social interaction, but I would still buy drinks for people I was interested in talking to. They could be doing something else, so why not buy a drink.

But my main point is that everyone needs to survive, or just want a better material life than they have now. If you are not interested in helping them live at some point, the relationship will die anyway. Take them out to dinner, do something.

I wonder if you have ever been in a relationship with a GG? My SO wants a new home, even though we live in one, where we pay no rent or mortgage. At this point our sex life is minimal, after so any years.
A fifteen year mortgage, costing in the 100,000's of dollars. A $15 drink doesn't sound so bad to me, at this point.

Spending some cash means you are looking for something besides free ass!

[yodajazz]

I should have added that the girls get beautiful by spending large amount of money to get that way. Even GG's are spending money getting their hair done regularly, cosmetics, lotions, and a lot of clothes. Somebody has to pay for it, and if you get in a relationship, you will be helping by paying for something.

[hondarobot]

heh. That thing would probably be a pain in the ass anyways. Having never gone that route before though, I'm really not an expert on the subject, nor intend to be.