Love and Lust

[Vicki Richter]

A porn star who made quite many porn movies, who proudly made a gangbang scene with kind of 15 unknown guys (publicly),
escorting, and who else knows what more besides that - wants now to be loved, supported and pleased like a princess by some
ordinary good guy, who will ultimately be willing to if necessity demands it sacrify a lot (for example - his family life in some cases,
probably his social status as well, etc..) for that purpose. Well, that guy must be a real hero, some silly superman kind of..
I dunno, i really dunno any more

I could dye my hair and get another nose job. Nobody would know but him. My ass is totally tight again after that gang bang scene. That was like 3 or 4 years ago.

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[whatsupwithat]

A porn star who made quite many porn movies, who proudly made a gangbang scene with kind of 15 unknown guys (publicly),
escorting, and who else knows what more besides that - wants now to be loved, supported and pleased like a princess by some
ordinary good guy, who will ultimately be willing to if necessity demands it sacrify a lot (for example - his family life in some cases,
probably his social status as well, etc..) for that purpose. Well, that guy must be a real hero, some silly superman kind of..
I dunno, i really dunno any more

You're right about one thing - you really DON'T know. Do you honestly think there's ANY woman who dosen't want those things? And fuck your "social status". Obviously it's at the mercy of a bunch of transphobic dorks. If you're so worried about what other people think, you obviously can't think for yourself.

Took the words right out my mouth! Right on!

[ezed]

Stop...Stop! Just fucking stop! ( and I'm not talking about the most recent posters, I 've already forgot what they said). Why does everyone have to place people in convenient little boxes and place labels on those boxes. Every fucking person on these boards .....are different! No one is the same as the other! Their reasons for being here nite to nite, are different from the previous nite. They are not even uniform with themselves. Their points of view change like the sands. So there are lurkers, smirkers, and kiss ass jerkers, so they like large or small cocks, post ops or pre ops, 8 year olds like Stan and Cartman, 50 year old's like Homer Simpson. Turd Sandwichs or Giant Douches.

Long term relationships happen or don't no matter what fucking label has been placed on the forehead by the label makers. Genralizations don't make relationships, it's the two people in the relationship. They make them and they break them.

The underlying message is your personal experience is not all encompassing. Nor will it ever be. You may meet the perfect mate or you may never after a hundred times at the plate. Why? Who knows.
Live with it, but keep trying if that's what you seek. But have fun in the meantime, because someday you will die. If there's nothing afterward, then you'll never regret it, you won't be. If there is something good afterward, you'll have forgotten you're gripes and misery and joys. If its bad afterward, you'll be kicking yourself in the ass for not laughing more thus making it more bad.

So loosen up, relax. Don't be so serious. Seriousness happens, but not through a keyboard. We are not intelligent enough to communicate all we think through written words.

Peace to you all....you are you not a label. Everyone is free to like or dislike you based on you not based on what you are labeled.

And now I will get in my armour, in anticipation of tomatos.

[stillies77]

I agree i shouldnt be in a box...im here because i am a tgirl fan...want to someday be together with one...in a relationship not just sex...i come here to talk not post pictures...i am more interested in the people behind the pictures not the pictures themselves...i would rather have a long conversation with Vicki or Holly than just look at pictures of them...its the connection with the person that counts isnt that why we are all here...so we can connect with the tgirls we all love and WANT to know?

[stillies77]

this site makes our fantasies come true sometimes they are sexual and for guys like me they are knowing the person...sex is just the bonus...at least in my book.

[tsluva]

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"Vicki Richter wrote:

I think marriage is a bit overrated. I realize I am going all over the place here. But marriage in the traditional sense almost 100% of the time turns into her not wanting sex anymore and him feeling rejected going off and cheating. Then, although she doesn't want sex with him anymore, she goes off and cheats too because that sex is new. A lot of times women resent their husbands for making them pregnant and giving up their freedom, other times, they just put all their energy into children and lose the bond that brought them together.


I don't get the married and unhappy thing either. So many people divorce. But then there are these people who live in a constant state of numbness who never divorce until they are old. They do it "for the kids". Sure that is self sacrificing and noble, but honestly give up 20 years of your life "for the kids"?? In the meantime you aren't fantasizing about your wife anymore, you are fantasizing about pornstars, transsexuals, bondage, lesbians, gay men and/or sex with farm animals. Everything your wife isn't, you make into a fantasy.

So my argument would be that you cut your losses, pay your child support, and then find your fantasy girl. Whether she is a shemale, a dominatrix or a sheep, that is up to you.

The things I like about a relationship is getting to know someone and getting to know their family, likes, dislikes, and making them happy. You can't get that by dating 10 different guys. Maybe the best relationship would be some form of polygomous open relationship. Most married guys are doing that now anyway, just without her knowing about it. Maybe that is why being a pornstar is a good thing. As long as I do it, I can't be jealous about a guy I am with fucking other girls. I would dump him if I found out he did a guy though. I think that's gross... that or farm animals.

Marriage is so conditionally instilled in many Americans
to where they feel they have to dream/have itso a lot of
important variables and elements are ignored, pushed aside or no idea
or effort to deal with issues prior to the committment.
Unfortunately the fact is most marriages do not work out and probably the because of the aforementioned problems are some of the reason(s) why most usually end up in divorces.

maybe just me but i don't see what's wrong with first living with
someone you care about for a considerable time before there's even
talk of the next step up. Heck at least you would at least have a
better chance at learning/adapting to your "soulmate" on
a very close and personal and consistent every day basis.
At least you would have a better chance of getting a feel if that partner is compatible and passionate enough to risk a lifetime being with

I would think, because we can't have kids, a life with a transsexual would be more fulfilling. The couple would always focus on each other, fun with each other, knowing each other, sex with each other. Cumming over and over. Orgasms, anal sex, french kissing, oral sex, etc.

Actually Not fulfilling because knowing that kids will not be an possibility
in the future eliminates options.

.And not to sound self-defeating or crude but because of the complications of a tranny relationship, adoption is not likely to be a possibility either.
and because of that it's a strong reason why a long term relationship

it's a bitch and frustrating to each party in the relationship
but it's a reality.
But another reality is not every couple is about kids ...
.. some have no desire to have them. Some learn
to deal with the difficult urge to have kids.

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[qeuqheeg222]

vicki its really good to have your input on this webboard,arianna,peggy too-you bring the other side to the lusting of allthe others on here...the marriage thing for straight people is soo strange-do the men getting into theses ever think to them selves "i'm gonna be fuckin the same piece of pussy for the rest of my life"..as people grow so do their sexual and personal needs change and when many people get married they never really take this into account..is this person able to express what i need to grow in a long term relationship,whether it be wild ass sex or doin daily activities like the dishes and cooking...i dont know why so many people get married so young,before they can get down wit their bad selves....

[Slither]

Oh yeah, 20 page threads on marriage or "am I gay becuase I take it up the ass?" or any other lovely dovey threads are exactly what this board needs.

I'm all for a good debate but there's nothing wrong with the pic posts.

[Jennifer_English]

This thread has really made me think....

Does working in the adult industry screw up any chance of a 'normal' relationship...?

I hope not. I have just launched my own website and after a rocky start (due to ilness) am now back on track and coming to the stage where my partner (who is also the photographer) and I are facing the awkward subject of me having sex with other people. To be honest its not something I really want to do. Especially with HIM taking the pic... I am a very loyal person, have never cheated on him and am VERY worried about what it might do to us.

We first met up two years ago after getting to know each other on a UK website called 'gaydar'. It was purely a meet for bondage and sex after talking for a few months and finding we got on with each other well. On that first night we pretty much fell for each other and after 2-3 months of him driving some 150 miles as many times in a week as possible to see me, i moved in with him.

One and a half years on.... I still face the problems of transitioning and all that entails and need to either get a job... (I didnt work for the first 2 yrs of being full-time as i couldnt be bothered with all the bitchyness at wherever i would have been working as i didnt look too passable if i am honest!) OR find some other way of earning enough money for FFS, laser, breast augmentation etc. etc.

Que:website idea

Now i am still learning how to do it all properly (yes - i know the website could do with a lot of improvements) as i wanted to do it all myself but the website has been running for about 4 months. I have done some hardcore with my bf and also with a couple of other TS and one guy. Now my BF (who i love with all my heart) and myself have realised that I am going to have to have sex with other guys if i want to have some degree of sucess in this industry. He has said to me that he pretty much knew we would come to this point all along... me...? i never thought about it... dumb i guess...

will it ultimatly harm our relationship..?

i so hope not.. i have even lately had thoughts of not carrying on down this path... Am i doing something which will haunt me forever..?

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Jennifer
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[Vicki Richter]

Jennifer - go big or stay home, there really isn't any middle ground for web sites. If you put yourself out there, and go half way, you'll find it hard to be competitive. Why put yourself on the Internet and risk a lifetime of being labeled if you aren't going to go into it 110%?

Sex work will change your relationship irreversably unless your man really gets off on seeing other guys/girls fuck you. Remember what I said about the rare guy who likes that.

I was raised to be with one person for both love and lust. It goes against my nature to fuck a whole lot of people. That is the real reason why I never got into hardcore escorting. I might go months without sex sometimes. Sure this may be caused by religion or hopes of a normal relationship - I'm not sure.

So my point is, always evaluate what is the most important thing to you. Is your man the most important thing? Is he behind you 100%? If you start to see warning signs or fighting in the relationship after you start down the path, you need to be willing to change course on your adult career or risk losing what matters most.

I used to have a very very close friend who lost her family - what mattered most - after getting into the adult biz. While she may or may not agree that is what caused it, I am absolutely convinced. After losing her family, she has never been that same bubbly, happy person since. She lost the fire and zest for life that made her so special to me.

Anyway, I wish you luck regardless of your decision.

Vicki