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    Default NY Times Admits: Saddam Had WMD Capability(NYTimes)

    Did the NY Times in a rush to prop up the democrats just reveal that,

    1. The Documents retrieved from Saddam`s IIS and other government

    departments as authentic.

    2. Saddam had all the necessary plans to build nuclear weapons and as

    we all know now,was shopping for yellowcake in Niger.

    " Among the dozens of documents in English were Iraqi reports written in the 1990’s and in 2002 for United Nations inspectors in charge of making sure Iraq abandoned its unconventional arms programs after the Persian Gulf war. Experts say that at the time, Mr. Hussein’s scientists were on the verge of building an atom bomb, as little as a year away."


    The New York Times just tore the heart out of the antiwar argument, and they are apparently completely oblivous to it.

    Is this sentence referring to 1990, before the Persian Gulf War? Or 2002, months before the invasion of Iraq? Because “Iraq is a year away from building a nuclear bomb” was supposed to be a myth, a lie that Bush used to trick us into war. In any event Saddam was NOT to be in possession of such material anyway.

    Document CMPC-2003-012331.pdf dated January 2001 indicates that during a meeting between Saddam and the Staff of the Iraqi Atomic Energy Organization Saddam was asked by the Organization Staff to give his permission for re-using the infamous “ Degussa Vacuum furnaces ” that were used in the previous and prohibited Iraq nuclear program. These furnaces can be used to melt uranium and other nuclear related activities.

    Documents CMPC-2004-003978.pdf and CMPC-2004-002191.pdf contains memos dated from 1999 to 2001 that talk about projects sponsored by the Iraqi Atomic Nuclear Agency to rebuild some of their nuclear facilities and equipments. All the projects were dated after the UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in December 1998. These facilities and equipments were part of Iraq clandestine nuclear weapon program before the 1991 Gulf War and they were destroyed by the bombing and some were dismantled by the UN weapon inspector. Rebuilding these nuclear facilities and equipments was totally prohibited per the UN sanctions. The facilities include rebuilding Iraq Radioactive Waste Treatment Station (RWTS) that was destroyed by bombing during operation Desert Storm in 1991. Another project was to rebuild the RadioChemistry laboratories. According to the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) the RWTS and the RadioChemistry Laboratories were part of Iraq clandestine nuclear program (http://www.iraqwatch.org/un/IAEA/s-1997-779-att-3.htm, see section 3.4 of the link). Document CMCP-2004-003978 there is a project by the Iraq Atomic Agency to fix “Furnaces” from the Dicosa brand. Nuclear facilities require very specialized “furnaces” and this type of furnaces is prohibited according to the UN .



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    That appears to indicate that by invading in 2003, we followed the best intelligence of the UN inspectors to head off the development of an Iraqi nuke. This intelligence put Saddam far ahead of Iran in the nuclear pursuit, and made it much more urgent to take some definitive action against Saddam before he could build and deploy it. And bear in mind that this intelligence came from the UN, and not from the United States. The inspectors themselves developed it, and they meant to keep it secret. The FMSO site blew their cover, and they're very unhappy about it.What other highlights has the Times now authenticated? We have plenty:

    * 2001 IIS memo directing its agents to test mass grave sites in southern Iraq for radiation, and to use "trusted news agencies" to leak rumors about the lack of credibility of Coalition reporting on the subject. They specify CNN.

    * The Blessed July operation, in which Saddam's sons planned a series of assassinations in London, Iran, and southern Iraq

    * Saddam's early contacts with Osama bin Laden and al-Qaeda from 1994-7

    * UNMOVIC knew of a renewed effort to make ricin from castor beans in 2002, but never reported it

    * The continued development of delivery mechanisms for biological and chemical weapons by the notorious "Dr. Germ" in 2002


    Now we have no less of an authority than the New York Times to verify that the IIS documentation is not only genuine, but presents a powerful argument for the military action to remove Saddam from power.



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    So, you read the Times? Congrats. I think. But, have you ever thought about taking Reading Comprehension 101 or maybe Context in Writing 101? It does wonders for understanding what exactly you read.



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    Quote Originally Posted by whatsupwithat
    So, you read the Times? Congrats. I think. But, have you ever thought about taking Reading Comprehension 101 or maybe Context in Writing 101? It does wonders for understanding what exactly you read.

    According to the times,the Documents must be authentic and qoute from a UN report dated 3 years ago,

    "...and in 2002 for United Nations inspectors in charge of making sure Iraq abandoned its unconventional arms programs after the Persian Gulf war. Experts say that at the time, Mr. Hussein’s scientists were on the verge of building an atom bomb, as little as a year away."

    Care to point out where the nytimes went wrong?

    Maybe they went wrong in publishing their report. :P



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