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    Default Donald Trump Indicted on 7 Counts



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    Quote Originally Posted by Fitzcarraldo View Post
    Good. The MAGA King deserves to get indicted,and he can claim that he's innocent all he wants,because innocent people would have done the right thing,instead of attacking prosecutors on his fraudulent social media platform,and throwing temper tantrums like a petulant child.


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    Quote Originally Posted by KnightHawk 2.0 View Post
    Good. The MAGA King deserves to get indicted,and he can claim that he's innocent all he wants,because innocent people would have done the right thing,instead of attacking prosecutors on his fraudulent social media platform,and throwing temper tantrums like a petulant child.
    And things are going to get a hell of alot worse for the MAGA King Donald Trump.



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    I don't think anyone is surprised at the hysterical reactions of Fox News, Stephen Miller, Elon Musk or the man himself, though it does beg the question -What does the Presidential Records Act of 1978 say with regard to Presidents and their documents? Roger Stone might not know the law has changed, as he remains a devotee of Richard M. Nixon, who would have been the first President to be indicted had Gerald Ford not pardoned him.

    The law is utterly simple in its main provision-

    "This Act stated any records generated during a Presidential administration documenting the constitutional, statutory or ceremonial duties of the Presidency are the property of the United States".
    Presidential Records Act | Ronald Reagan (reaganlibrary.gov)

    The Prima Facie evidence that the Court must assess, is that Trump and his lawyers were fully aware of their obligations under the law; that Trump deliberately prevented documents from being handed over to the National Archive; that among them were sensitive documents of National Security importance (at least one of which, on Iran, cannot be found). Perhaps those defending Trump can step forward and tell is why Trump took these documents.

    It don't look good, but the wheels of justice grind slow, and it might not be until this time next year that the Court is sitting in judgment.


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    Georgia could still indict him. The DOJ could also still indict him over January 6th.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Fitzcarraldo View Post
    Georgia could still indict him. The DOJ could also still indict him over January 6th.
    On a general level I would have thought the Georgia case is the most serious, as it is a direct interference in the election process, and I just can't understand how any lawyer would have advised Trump to make that call, unless they were not aware that it was being recorded. The violation of the Presidential Records Act of 1978 is just as blatant, with evidence now containing an audio of Trump boasting about classified military documents that he had retained for himself, as quoted in the link below.

    I wonder if the Jan 6 is harder to prove in Court. But for all the hysterical drivel of Josh Hawley and Kevin McCarthy, not only is this about the rule of law, the Grand Jury indictments, and the actual lack of any involvement by either President Biden or Merrick Garland, it is really just the consequence of promoting to the Presidency a man with proven links to organized crime going back to the 1990s, who has been associated with more men tried and convicted of crimes in a Court of Law than any other President -at what point did the idiots who enabled Trump from the start wonder if his past would ever catch up with him, and his Big Mouth make a lawyer's job all but impossible?

    Trump boasts about having non-declassified papers in bombshell recording: ‘I have a big pile’ (yahoo.com)


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    More information relating to the indictments has been released today. I won't be able to look at it until later but Jonathan Turley apparently said it was damning. This is a guy who has bent over backwards to defend Trump. Lied for him. The consensus is that it's gonna be hard to defend him.


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    His lawyer’s resigned earlier today, it’s clearly a prime resigning day all over the globe.


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    37 counts! and thats just this case.. two more upcoming


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    Default Re: Donald Trump Indicted on 7 Counts

    Quote Originally Posted by Stavros View Post
    I don't think anyone is surprised at the hysterical reactions of Fox News, Stephen Miller, Elon Musk or the man himself, though it does beg the question -What does the Presidential Records Act of 1978 say with regard to Presidents and their documents? Roger Stone might not know the law has changed, as he remains a devotee of Richard M. Nixon, who would have been the first President to be indicted had Gerald Ford not pardoned him.

    The law is utterly simple in its main provision-

    "This Act stated any records generated during a Presidential administration documenting the constitutional, statutory or ceremonial duties of the Presidency are the property of the United States".
    Presidential Records Act | Ronald Reagan (reaganlibrary.gov)

    The Prima Facie evidence that the Court must assess, is that Trump and his lawyers were fully aware of their obligations under the law; that Trump deliberately prevented documents from being handed over to the National Archive; that among them were sensitive documents of National Security importance (at least one of which, on Iran, cannot be found). Perhaps those defending Trump can step forward and tell is why Trump took these documents.

    It don't look good, but the wheels of justice grind slow, and it might not be until this time next year that the Court is sitting in judgment.
    No not at all surprised by the hysterical reactions from the so-called journalists at the Propaganda News Channel,or the right wing loving assclown and twitter troll Elon Musk. No it sure doesn't,the MAGA King Donald Trump is in serious trouble.



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