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    Intriguing book review. One wonders if people like Vance and Stafanik are ever going to produce the hard evidence to prove the 2020 election produced the wrong result, heaven knows Trump has failed to do so in 3 and a half years. Is it not time for these people to put up or shut up?

    And can a State really just stop people voting?

    How to Steal a Presidential Election review: Trump and the peril to come (yahoo.com)


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    The link below is to a rather long article on the financial problems the Republican Party is going through, from the party in States exhausting their funds on pointless election recounts, to the more obvious one-way traffic of cash from the party to its supreme leader, Trump. Although some States are doing well, ag Florida, others may struggle to mount a campaign if all the money the party has goes to fund Trump's lawyers, while on some States, like Michigan, the Party seems to be at war with itself rather than the Democrats.

    But the most interesting bit is the tv interview with Lara Trump, who may become part of the RNC leadership team. For when asked what the Party needs to do to be more competitive with the Democrats, in view of the results of the mid-terms, she does not mention a single policy, but is only concerned with voter registration, embracing early voting, and thus on the election procedures, as if there was not a long list of the priorities most Americans have. And then she makes it clear that the only priority is to elect Donald Trump as President.

    But if the whole purpose of the Party is focused on one man, how can they secure the Senate and the House? If they cannot put together a set of coherent policies, be it on the Border/Immigration, the Cost of Living, Law and Order -issues that concern most people most of the time, they have only one mission, to please the supreme leader.

    Let us hope this ends this year, it is tiring, like those in the UK with their 'Bring Boris Back' or the desperate attempt to re-habilitate Liz Truss. But when I look at the landscape of political choices around the world, it is not just the US that I find mired in confusion and with an alarming indifference to what an open Democracy is, and could be.

    Anyway the link is here-
    The Truth About Trump’s RNC Shakeup—and Why the GOP Will Suffer (yahoo.com)


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    To add to the above, is this savage but accurate depiction of the Republican Party by a former party strategist, Stuart Stevens, concerned the party has made no effort to widen its electoral base, and is even irrelevant to most people's needs-

    ""A party led by a rapist that believes it can fix its problem with women by attacking Taylor Swift, with weird little creeps like Mike Johnson as a public face in Congress, that has no serious policy, that has decided to abandon decades of support for freedom in Europe to back a genocidal dictator, a party that is 85% white in a 59% white country, a party that has decided higher education is a gateway drug to Socialism, that believes public health policy should be set by random freaks on the internet and not doctors, a party that is still fighting cultural wars of gender politics the rest of America ended a decade ago, a party that has replaced American optimism with anger and fear of the future," he stated."
    'A party led by a rapist': Ex-GOP strategist delivers brutal diagnosis for party's losses (msn.com)


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    So far, an election of contradictions, as the article by Simon Tisdall linked below demonstrates: Americans concerned at the war in Gaza, and simultaneously weary of the US getting involved in foreign conflicts, while Trump plays to the Isolationist crowd who want an 'America First' agenda. So too, as the other poll shows, Biden's administration achieves more positive things than he gets credit for, while the man himself cannot rely on that success for a personal vote.

    The danger is that the US sits out global conflict in the 2020s much as it did the 1920s, giving space for dictators to do what they want, with terrible consequences, as we can already see in Ukraine. There is still a long way to go before November, and maybe something dramatic will change the agenda: Trump and Biden both vulnerable -so who has the best Plan B?

    The Big Change Between the 2020 and 2024 Races: Biden Is Unpopular (yahoo.com)

    The US as defender of democracy won’t win votes. Donald Trump gets it, but Joe Biden doesn’t | Simon Tisdall | The Guardian


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    The sad fact is that there are no surprises that this man expresses these opinions and gets selected to run for high office. It is the measure of how far the Republican Party has vacated what used to be called the 'centre ground' of politics to occupy the outer space of offensiveness. We have extremists in the UK, but the most they get is a council seat somewhere no=one other than the locals has ever heard of, and are largely ineffective. And those who have climbed high, like Boris Johnson and Liz Truss, have fallen just as far.

    Do Americans really want this?

    "North Carolina Lieutenant Governor Mark Robinson revels in making offensive remarks – with a history that includes comparing abortion to slavery, quoting Nazi leader Adolf Hitler, and referring to LGBT+ people as “filth”."
    He quoted Hitler. He called LGBT people ‘filth’. And now he could become North Carolina’s next governor | The Independent


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    Quote Originally Posted by Stavros View Post
    The sad fact is that there are no surprises that this man expresses these opinions and gets selected to run for high office. It is the measure of how far the Republican Party has vacated what used to be called the 'centre ground' of politics to occupy the outer space of offensiveness. We have extremists in the UK, but the most they get is a council seat somewhere no=one other than the locals has ever heard of, and are largely ineffective. And those who have climbed high, like Boris Johnson and Liz Truss, have fallen just as far.

    Do Americans really want this?

    "North Carolina Lieutenant Governor Mark Robinson revels in making offensive remarks – with a history that includes comparing abortion to slavery, quoting Nazi leader Adolf Hitler, and referring to LGBT+ people as “filth”."
    He quoted Hitler. He called LGBT people ‘filth’. And now he could become North Carolina’s next governor | The Independent
    Hell to the no,most americans doesn't want someone who a homophobic,transphobic,right wing loving toxic pile of shit and sexist creep like Mark Robinson,who is Donald Trump 2.0 to be the next governor of North Carolina.



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    After the election, some policies and actions not to wish or hope for, unless you admire Steve Bannon, Stephen Miller and others in their orbit (but not Obit...)

    Personnel, dismantling democracy, and immigration: What a second Trump term might look like according to his closest right-wing media advisers | Media Matters for America


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    Quote Originally Posted by Fitzcarraldo View Post
    Forty-eight more states have to weigh in yet. It's really sad that the primary process could be over after the first two rounds.
    I also don't think its healthy for one's psyche. Whether it be an individual's or the nation's. I mean let's put this in perspective. Now that the primary process is indeed over after two rounds, that means both Biden and Trump will be running a general election campaign for the next 6 months.

    So my thinking is going to be this. I'm going to put the 2024 Election out of mind as much as humanly possible, show up on Election day, vote for Biden, and hope he is doesn't expire in office. Or after 90 days, he has a change of heart and resigns from office.


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    Quote Originally Posted by blackchubby38 View Post
    I also don't think its healthy for one's psyche. Whether it be an individual's or the nation's. I mean let's put this in perspective. Now that the primary process is indeed over after two rounds, that means both Biden and Trump will be running a general election campaign for the next 6 months.

    So my thinking is going to be this. I'm going to put the 2024 Election out of mind as much as humanly possible, show up on Election day, vote for Biden, and hope he is doesn't expire in office. Or after 90 days, he has a change of heart and resigns from office.
    So if there is a tv 'debate' between Biden and Trump you won't watch it? But will there be such a programme on tv? Could either one refuse to share a platform with the other?


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