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    After three and half years is it not time for Trump and the others to show proof that the 2020 election was rigged? Its like saying Elvis is not dead, but not being able to bring the guy in front of a camera to speak to the Nation.

    And how can election rules differ not just from State to State, but in Counties?

    "The experience of trying to vet the wild misinformation that shaped the Trump campaign’s perception of reality has left Block keen not just to speak out about the bogus premises used by his former employers to try and overturn the election. It’s also turned him into an advocate for reforming an election system whose complexities he believes can help provide fuel for such bogus conspiracy theories.
    He points to dead voters — a frequent source of false claims about voter fraud — as an example.
    “If you have the misfortune of dying before the Election Day, does your vote count or does it not count?” Block asks. “It depends on which state you live in and sometimes on which county you live in within a specific state. Shouldn’t this situation have the same outcome everywhere in the country?”"
    Trump’s Voter Fraud Expert Shot Down His Campaign’s Election Lies (yahoo.com)


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    Quote Originally Posted by Stavros View Post
    So if there is a tv 'debate' between Biden and Trump you won't watch it? But will there be such a programme on tv? Could either one refuse to share a platform with the other?
    No. I didn't watch any of the debates in 2020 either.

    I think if there are debates, they most likely will be televised. But I think Biden is already laying down the groundwork for not participating in them.

    It will be interesting to see though given what the Republican National convention will mostly look like, does any television network take an unprecedented step and not televise them. Or at very least, portions, if not all of Trump's acceptance speech.


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    Quote Originally Posted by blackchubby38 View Post
    No. I didn't watch any of the debates in 2020 either.

    I think if there are debates, they most likely will be televised. But I think Biden is already laying down the groundwork for not participating in them.

    It will be interesting to see though given what the Republican National convention will mostly look like, does any television network take an unprecedented step and not televise them. Or at very least, portions, if not all of Trump's acceptance speech.
    Is it Biden who doesn't want the debates, or Trump? Depending on the dates, he might be on Tv the day after a 'difficult' day in Court. He talks loudly, but often ducks the heavy duty stuff.



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    This detailed article from Rolling Stone should give cause for concern to those who think the election in 2024 may not be won or lost by the people who vote, but those who count it -or have the power to certify or not certify, and who so far in previous elections have refused even when they are legally obliged to do so, but don't care about the law. At the very least, if they kick into action in November, it might not be January before there are definitive results after legal challenges, etc.

    Can the Certification in Congress, and the date of the Inauguration be changed?

    Election Deniers Are Taking Over Election Boards Around the Country (rollingstone.com)


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    A new contender-

    "A Texas man has legally changed his name to Literally Anybody Else and announced he is running for US president in the 2024 election."
    Man changes name to Literally Anybody Else and announces US presidential run | Texas | The Guardian

    Perhaps he will shortly publish his policy proposals titled 'There is nothing I can do to make things better'.


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    Interesting....


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    Quote Originally Posted by MrFanti View Post
    Interesting....
    Or scary? America, are you 'Locked and Loaded' in preparation for the 2024 election Debacle?

    "The Trump campaign says it plans to change tactics from 2020 when Joe Biden beat the then-incumbent president by more than 7 million votes, and this time go on “offense” by having “soldiers” and “poll watchers” at polling places."
    Trump campaign says it will d​eploy 'soldiers' to polling places (msn.com)


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    This is where it gets scary. Maybe even abolish elections and just declare the sex offender and convicted fraudster Dear President for Eternity?

    "...on January 6, 2025, what if the new Republican majority refuses to certify as president any Electoral College results from states that went for Biden by close margins — thereby ensuring that no candidate receives an Electoral College majority?Presto! The decision about who’s to be the next president is made on a state-by-state delegation vote — almost surely delivering it to Trump.£
    How Trump could win even if he loses the popular vote AND the Electoral College | Opinion (msn.com)



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    Quote Originally Posted by Stavros View Post
    This is where it gets scary. Maybe even abolish elections and just declare the sex offender and convicted fraudster Dear President for Eternity?

    "...on January 6, 2025, what if the new Republican majority refuses to certify as president any Electoral College results from states that went for Biden by close margins — thereby ensuring that no candidate receives an Electoral College majority?Presto! The decision about who’s to be the next president is made on a state-by-state delegation vote — almost surely delivering it to Trump.£
    How Trump could win even if he loses the popular vote AND the Electoral College | Opinion (msn.com)
    What if there is no new Republican majority?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Fitzcarraldo View Post
    What if there is no new Republican majority?
    I would have to go ogle the details unless you can help: election results in November -is it just the President who requires certification from Congress -what about the Congressional Representatives and Senators? Could the outgoing members delay that certification on the basis their results were 'irregular' and in need of investigation? One of the weaknesses in this whole 'steal' thing is that it appears only the Presidential vote has been rigged, even though the ballot paper with the names of the Presidential candidates also has all the other offices being voted on -so why have all those offices not been challenged?

    I yield back.



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