Charlamagne Tha God rejects activists using ‘transphobic’ label

[MrFanti]

You don't follow him. I don't know who he is. Yes, this person I've never heard of is entitled to his opinion, but his opinion has no meaning to me, so "whatever." If you don't follow him, why does his opinion matter to you?

From the article:
“There’s certain things minors cannot do because they’re minors. So you don’t think something as big as changing your gender, shouldn’t you wait until you’re at least 18? The fact that people can’t even have a conversation about that without labeling somebody transphobic is very, very, very, very strange to me because it’s not like these people are saying, ‘No, we don’t want anybody transitioning,’ you know. Or ‘being trans is wrong.’ They’re simply saying, ‘Hey, let these minors wait until they’re a certain age.’ That’s very worthy of a conversation,” Charlamagne said. "

I listen to all views regardless whether I agree or disagree. That's called being non-biased.

[MrFanti]

https://www.rollingstone.com/culture...people-201699/

[filghy2]

Honestly, I'd love to leave it up to the parents. But that is part of the reason we are in the situation now. I believe that you can have family discussions regarding your kids and how they plan to live their lives. But it should not happen until their adults. Doctors shouldn't have anything to do with it. Schools shouldn't have anything to do with it also. Schools need to focus on education and educating the youth with the truth instead of the bull shit we've been taught.

You aren't talking about adults. When you speaking about adults your talking about personal business. I totally agree with that. When your speaking on kids it takes a village. Because of that the its not anyone's business isn't totally accurate.

So is it the parents' business or the village's business? You are being cryptic about where you stand on some of these issues.

[filghy2]

To clarify what the issue is, the attached article provides a list of legislative proposals in various states to ban gender-affirming care for young people. In many cases, the proposed age limit is 21 or even older. This is not about parental rights - quite the opposite.
https://www.modernhealthcare.com/gov...utah-tennessee

Will you tell us where you stand on this, Eldergod and Mr Fanti, or are you going to keep dodging around the issue?

[Fitzcarraldo]

From the article:
“There’s certain things minors cannot do because they’re minors. So you don’t think something as big as changing your gender, shouldn’t you wait until you’re at least 18? The fact that people can’t even have a conversation about that without labeling somebody transphobic is very, very, very, very strange to me because it’s not like these people are saying, ‘No, we don’t want anybody transitioning,’ you know. Or ‘being trans is wrong.’ They’re simply saying, ‘Hey, let these minors wait until they’re a certain age.’ That’s very worthy of a conversation,” Charlamagne said. "

I listen to all views regardless whether I agree or disagree. That's called being non-biased.

Yeah, sure.

[Fitzcarraldo]

Why start a new topic for this? You already have a Charlemagne the God topic.

[Stavros]

I think there is a gap between the clinical and social/political commentary on Trans issues. Even within the clinical setting the controversy comes from those who think practitioners are too hasty in their prescribed courses of treatment, raising the question -how long should it take for a patient to begin taking hormones of beginning other forms of treatment? It may be argued that the younger the person, the longer the lead in time to practical therapy.

The danger with the Social and Political commentary is obvious where there is no need to have any clinical or scientific understanding of gender and sexuality, as any opinion will do. The idea that sex is assigned at birth is simple but misleading, for if it were so there would be no Trans issues. It is people like Trump and DeSantis who transform a serious medical and psychological condition into a political weapon that aims to define identity, and indeed, to argue it is the task of Government to define individual identity, thereby undermining their claim to be defending or advancing freedom.

Either all individuals are equal before the law, or they are not, and Government should say so, and list those who are not equal.

[ELDERGOD]

So is it the parents' business or the village's business? You are being cryptic about where you stand on some of these issues.

When it comes to kids it takes a village. Meaning its not just the parents with in the house hold that play a part in raising a child. All of us adults play a part in what we are exposing kids too and so on. Why do you think there is a major difference in the kids today vs us when we were kids. These kids are exposed to alot more then we were. That is not on just the parents. Parents can only do so much. For example when I was a kid you didn't even hear curse words on the radio. But now they are saying every thing under the sun. We've pushed the envelope and the kids are paying the price for adult bull shit.

To clarify what the issue is, the attached article provides a list of legislative proposals in various states to ban gender-affirming care for young people. In many cases, the proposed age limit is 21 or even older. This is not about parental rights - quite the opposite.
https://www.modernhealthcare.com/gov...utah-tennessee

Will you tell us where you stand on this, Eldergod and Mr Fanti, or are you going to keep dodging around the issue?

I have no issue for care for adult. Ive said this before. Kids it shouldn't be a discussion at all. But no one should deny care for adults

[Lorca81]

The movement in the U.S. to “protect” kids from transitioning before 18 is a manufactured controversy.

First, the people passing legislation banning parents from getting their children transgender medical care are the same people pushing legislation that would ban transgender medical care for adults too. https://19thnews.org/2022/10/transge...imit-restrict/ This demonstrates that this movement was always about hate and never about “protecting children.”

Second, even if you believe such legislation might “protect children” that entire proposition is illogical. After all, parents make medical decisions on their children’s behalf all the time, including having to decide whether their kids should take or forgo medication or undergo unalterable medical procedures.

[Lorca81]

The movement in the U.S. to “protect” kids from transitioning before 18 is a manufactured controversy.

First, the people passing legislation banning parents from getting their children transgender medical care are the same people pushing legislation that would ban transgender medical care for adults too. https://19thnews.org/2022/10/transge...imit-restrict/ This demonstrates that this movement was always about hate and never about “protecting children.”

Second, even if you believe such legislation might “protect children” that entire proposition is illogical. After all, parents make medical decisions on their children’s behalf all the time, including having to decide whether their kids should take or forgo medication or undergo unalterable medical procedures.