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    Quote Originally Posted by Stavros View Post
    Above link not available to me (I am in Germany right now).

    If De Santis is doing so badly - so far- in the Presidential stakes, does this suggest he would struggle to get re-elected Governor? Can Florida be flipped?
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    Florida allows teachers to use conservative PragerU curriculum in classrooms
    ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. —Florida is the first state to allow the conservative curriculum PragerU in public schools.

    The group says they create video, magazines and books to offer “a free alternative to the dominant left-wing ideology in culture, media, and education.” PragerU also claims that students are failing because schools are more concerned with pushing radical activism instead of teaching facts.

    “Parents have felt that they have been really pushed out of the education of their children,” said PragerU CEO Marissa Streit.

    Streit said they are now bringing PragerU Kids content to classrooms, and Florida is the first to sign up.

    “America's classrooms have been more focused on producing young activists than actually kids who excel academically or are able to think critically,” she said. “We're providing teachers with additional tools so they don't have to only teach leftism in schools.”

    On Wednesday, the Florida Department of Education said in a statement that they “reviewed PragerU Kids and determined the material aligns to Florida’s revised civics and government standards.”

    Now, it is up to individual school districts whether they will use the supplemental material.

    “We want our kids to accomplish academic excellence without it being laced with political narratives,” said Streit. “Kids should be learning without being indoctrinated with left-wing propaganda.”

    PragerU has a vast database of video content. Some examples found on the site include a video about the history of slavery in which the narrator, Candace Owens, says "Slavery was not invented by White people." In another video, the narrator says "There is no such thing as gender-affirming care. You cannot affirm something that does not exist."

    Meanwhile, PragerU Kids video content is found on a separate tab on the site and includes videos that discuss justice activism in classrooms, climate change and financial literacy.

    Some parents like Tatiana Quiroga said she worries about what this means for their kids.

    “This really makes me question where exactly is that separation of church and state,” she said.

    Quiroga is the executive director of Come Out With Pride, the host of Orlando’s annual Pride festival.

    “It’s just very concerning as a parent and just starting to really question what my children will be exposed to when they enter the classroom,” she said. “I am left with a lot of questions and concerns.”

    Andrew Spar is the president of the statewide teachers’ union, Florida Education Association.

    “It is clear that they have a political agenda. It is clear they're not about educating kids. They're about promoting propaganda,” he said.

    Spar said teachers are clamoring for good resources while dealing with the constant fear of picking material people do not object to.

    “The State of Florida wants to ban books, but they're going to allow a politically motivated program with no educational value,” he said. “It really goes to show where this administration's priorities are. Their priorities are not with the education of my child and your children. Their priority is certainly a political one.”

    WESH 2 News reached out to the 10 local school districts in our area to see whether they plan to use PragerU materials:

    Brevard: "The district reviews all state-approved curriculum to see if can benefit our students. We will review this voluntary curriculum before making any decisions."
    Flagler: "PragerU is just one of several supplemental resources the state has approved to be considered for our teachers, just like other resources the state has approved, such as from the Florida Holocaust Museum, Reading Like a Historian (Stanford University), and Florida Memory (a resource of primary and secondary lesson plan supplements and resources specific to our state). Our teachers have access to all the approved materials available to them when building their lesson plans for the upcoming year."
    Lake: Has not discussed PragerU
    Marion: "PragerU is not included as a resource in our 23-24 curriculum maps due to its late release by the FLDOE."
    Orange: "While the Florida Department of Education just approved the use of the PragerU curriculum, district staff has not had an opportunity to fully review the items."
    Osceola: WESH 2 News is waiting to hear back
    Polk: WESH 2 News is waiting to hear back
    Seminole: "Materials from PragerU were not adopted by SCPS for any course and are not included in the district curriculum frameworks."
    Sumter: WESH 2 News is waiting to hear back
    Volusia: WESH 2 News is waiting to hear back


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    Fitzcarraldo, thanks for taking the time to paste this, depressing as it is to read, even with the resistance in Florida. I wonder if the excessive demands being made by a few isolated parents to have books removed from school libraries will add another layer of resistance? On current trends, it might make more sense to shut down all school libraries in case a parent takes offence at what to most people is genuinely innocent language.

    Or is ‘Spin the Bottle’ code for something lascivious and a threat to children?

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/arthur...acko-complaint



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    Quote Originally Posted by Stavros View Post
    Fitzcarraldo, thanks for taking the time to paste this, depressing as it is to read, even with the resistance in Florida. I wonder if the excessive demands being made by a few isolated parents to have books removed from school libraries will add another layer of resistance? On current trends, it might make more sense to shut down all school libraries in case a parent takes offence at what to most people is genuinely innocent language.

    Or is ‘Spin the Bottle’ code for something lascivious and a threat to children?

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/arthur...acko-complaint
    No parent resistance will be effective as long as Republicans control the governor's office and the state legislature. I saw a poll that said 75% of Floridians oppose the 6-week abortion ban the legislature plans to implement.


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    Apparently we learned nothing from Watergate:
    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/202...rges-rcna96930


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    Below is an interesting take on the Slavery nonsense coming out of Florida. What I find missing in all this, concerns the irony that those slaves who did acquire skills, for example, as carpenters, wheelwrights, blacksmiths etc, undermined the opportunities such trades might have had for the White working class in the South. Set aside the fact that however skilled a slave might be, it would not prevent his, or her Master from flogging them or worse, should they infringe the rules. But there is also no doubt that slavery did not benefit the white working class, whom these days De Santis claims to represent.

    Maybe Harvard graduate De Santis should engage in some of his own historical research instead of allowing biased sources to feed him.

    https://uk.news.yahoo.com/why-ron-desantis-florida-slavery-120007345.html


    https://www.lawcha.org/2017/07/17/po...s-slave-south/



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    Quote Originally Posted by Stavros View Post
    Below is an interesting take on the Slavery nonsense coming out of Florida. What I find missing in all this, concerns the irony that those slaves who did acquire skills, for example, as carpenters, wheelwrights, blacksmiths etc, undermined the opportunities such trades might have had for the White working class in the South. Set aside the fact that however skilled a slave might be, it would not prevent his, or her Master from flogging them or worse, should they infringe the rules. But there is also no doubt that slavery did not benefit the white working class, whom these days De Santis claims to represent.

    Maybe Harvard graduate De Santis should engage in some of his own historical research instead of allowing biased sources to feed him.

    https://uk.news.yahoo.com/why-ron-desantis-florida-slavery-120007345.html


    https://www.lawcha.org/2017/07/17/po...s-slave-south/
    He and his base don't care about any of that. They just want to erase and outlaw anything like white guilt. The end is all that matters, and they will shift means as necessary to get there.


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    Only 30 people were willing to pay a dollar to have a beer with him:
    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/202...fort-rcna97317


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    Another example of right-wing indoctrination in Florida schools - climate change denialist cartoons.
    https://www.politico.com/news/2023/0...os-ee-00109466



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    Two posts that are in sync with the times: in the UK Climate Change Denial has now become Climate Change Rejection -because the Conservatives held on to Boris Johnson's seat in Parliament, and because it was said to be their rejection of the proposed Ultra-Low-Emissions-Zone that the London Mayor is creating to reduce urban emissions, and because the argument is 'the People' can't afford it, the Conservatives, and others, have been emboldened to argue there is no public support for Green Policies, so scrap them -all of them.

    In Florida, it is not just Desperate Ron lashing out and sacking people, re-writing history -it may be seen as part of a broader Republican strategy to overhaul the foundations of American politics, using the Presidency as the means to implement what is being called the 'Unitary Executive Theory' which claims the President has significantly more extensive powers than previously accepted, er, because in fact such powers are subject to the decisions of the other two branches of Government.

    It would be interesting to know if Ronald believes in the UET.

    "Trump and his allies are planning a wholesale restructuring of the executive branch that would give him sweeping presidential power over the entire machinery of government with near complete impunity.
    ...
    The basis for this effort is a political thesis called the “unitary executive theory,” long popular with conservatives, which posits that the Constitution gives a president the authority to control all executive action."
    Opinion: Trump’s Plan To Go Full Fascist If He Wins In 2024 | HuffPost Opinion



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