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    Default Re: Antivaxxers and people in red states Dieing like flies

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    Post Re: Antivaxxers and people in red states Dieing like flies

    Robert Enyart was an American conservative talk radio host and pastor of Denver Bible Church in Denver, Colorado. He was an anti-abortion advocate and political commentator. Enyart opposed vaccinations and mask mandates for COVID-19. He died from COVID-19.


    https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/09/14/bob-enyart-conservative-radio-covid/



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    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dai...-vaccines.html

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    Default Re: Antivaxxers and people in red states Dieing like flies

    Quote Originally Posted by broncofan View Post
    I have noticed which network has promoted antivax propaganda nonstop and amplifies any message intended to make people think covid is not that serious. That network is Fox News. The politicians I've heard trying to pretend that mask mandates and employer mandated vaccination are unconstitutional (they're not) are also Republican. So yes misinformation spreads throughout the public but it is pretty disappointing we have an entire cable news network dedicated to disseminating it and a political party primed to exploit ignorance rather than educate people.
    I don't usually do this but what about this post do you disagree with Dirkmcgee? We all have emotional reactions to things we don't like to admit are true but is there anything I said that is not true. Fox News runs anti-vax propaganda all day, lying about side effects, downplaying efficacy. Do you think employers mandating vaccination is unconstitutional? If you don't like anti-vax propaganda then you should be upset at outlets that have disseminated it and politicians who have given credence to it.


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    Default Re: Antivaxxers and people in red states Dieing like flies

    NY has a higher per capita death rate than FL.



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    Default Re: Antivaxxers and people in red states Dieing like flies

    Not this year though - the period in which vaccines have been available, Anything to say on this topic, or are you interested only in diversionary tactics?

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    Perhaps you need to stay in the sandbox until you've done your homework.


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    Default Re: Antivaxxers and people in red states Dieing like flies

    It's not antivaxxers, it's people who are mostly;

    A-FAT
    B-Suffering from diabetes
    C-Low vitamin D and Zinc in their bodies (all the more reason to swallow your semen folks)
    D-lacking sufficient exercise each week
    E-Not getting enough sleep

    Change your lifestyle and fight this virus, with or without the vax we can all help and do our part


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    Default Re: Antivaxxers and people in red states Dieing like flies

    Quote Originally Posted by BostonBad View Post
    It's not antivaxxers, it's people who are mostly;

    A-FAT
    B-Suffering from diabetes
    C-Low vitamin D and Zinc in their bodies (all the more reason to swallow your semen folks)
    D-lacking sufficient exercise each week
    E-Not getting enough sleep

    Change your lifestyle and fight this virus, with or without the vax we can all help and do our part
    A French academic once defined two types of poverty- the Structural, caused by long-established forms of politics and behaviour; and the Conjunctural, poverty as a result of a sudden event such as the loss of property through flooding, earthquakes, volcanic eruptions, fire, and so on. Obesity and heart disease are long-established and fatal illnesses that have been part of the US healtth profile for many decades; Covid is thus a conjunctural event that has erupted and requires immediate attention on a scale quite different from Obesity of Heart Disease.

    So while you are right to identify some of the leading cause of illness and death in the USA, it is wrong to seek to thereby relegate the 'anti-vaxx' campaigners to some secondary status. As Covid-19 can be described as a conjunctural rather than a structural crisis, the immediate case is presented in simple terms: to prevent a Covid infection which could be lethal, a vaccination is the most rational, and proven method of prevention. While many of the people who were infected and died from Covid-19 had existing medical problems that weakened their immune system, the strength of the virus and its variants has extended the range of victims.

    In the US, 44 Million have been infected, more than 700,000 have died.

    There is no medical content of value in the 'anti-vaxx' campaigns, it is politics, and bad politics that refuses to engage in debate, that refuses to accept that there is a social dimension to disease that makes individuals responsibile not only for themselves, but for their families and the areas in which they live, work and play.


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