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    Two salient points which could as easily be made in the Coronavirus Politics thread- on the postion being taken by supporters of Trump's cult of Sedition, Sleaze and Lies -

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    "... Elaine Kamarck, a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution thinktank in Washington, finds the Republican stand baffling and bewildering. “It’s dangerous for others and it’s dangerous for themselves,” she said. “How many rightwing talkshow hosts have already died of Covid? It’s actually fairly inexplicable. I can certainly see getting wrought up over taxes or freedom or going to war or all the other things the state does but giving vaccines?

    “This is crazy, frankly. There’s just no other word for it than crazy. The Republican party’s been taken over by crazy people. All these people who are doing this, their children have gotten polio vaccines, measles, mumps, rubella. All babies in the United States get their shots and that is mandatory. It is mandatory to go to school. So this is pretty insane.”

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    "And it remains unclear whether the rightwing sound and fury will affect more than a section of the Trump base. David Frum, a former speechwriter and special assistant to President George W Bush, tweeted: “How’s that mass civil disobedience campaign against vaccine mandates going? Only 2% of human-resource professionals surveyed say they have noticed any instances at all of employees quitting rather than be vaccinated.”
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...eria-joe-biden


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    Quote Originally Posted by tslvr View Post
    Not an anti-vaxxer here, but you should check the facts on who is not getting the shots.
    I have noticed which network has promoted antivax propaganda nonstop and amplifies any message intended to make people think covid is not that serious. That network is Fox News. The politicians I've heard trying to pretend that mask mandates and employer mandated vaccination are unconstitutional (they're not) are also Republican. So yes misinformation spreads throughout the public but it is pretty disappointing we have an entire cable news network dedicated to disseminating it and a political party primed to exploit ignorance rather than educate people.


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    Quote Originally Posted by broncofan View Post
    I have noticed which network has promoted antivax propaganda nonstop and amplifies any message intended to make people think covid is not that serious. That network is Fox News. The politicians I've heard trying to pretend that mask mandates and employer mandated vaccination are unconstitutional (they're not) are also Republican. So yes misinformation spreads throughout the public but it is pretty disappointing we have an entire cable news network dedicated to disseminating it and a political party primed to exploit ignorance rather than educate people.
    "That network is Fox News".

    Typical of a Murdoch enterprise -don't report the news when it can be created, using as many lies as it takes to generate a response -thus, whatever the channel says-

    "A new memo from Fox Corp – the owner of Fox News – reports that 90 per cent of its full time employees are currently vaccinated against the coronavirus, despite several of the network's top personalities regularly undermining the vaccine effort."
    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-b1920250.html

    *Caution, link may include distressing scenes involving Tucker Carlson.


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    People are Dying and making stupid decisions because of

    Foxitus/Foxmania


    https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/...on-ctn-vpx.cnn

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wus...f-bd512758ee48


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    Default Re: Antivaxxers and people in red states Dieing like flies

    Long Lists of Dead Antivaxxers

    https://Sorryantivaxxers.com

    sorryantivaxxers.com


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    unvaccinated Idaho nurse antivaxxer dies from Covid leaving behind special needs child.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/idaho-nurse-who-refused-covid-vaccine-dies-brother/ar-AAOFHNh


    Long Lists of Dead Antivaxxers

    https://Sorryantivaxxers.com

    sorryantivaxxers.com


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    It is easy to sneet at anti-vaccine campaigners, be they in Melbourne, Manchester or Malibu, but there is a real tragedy here-

    "Kristen Lowery, 40, was the mother of four school-age children in Escalon, California. In her Facebook posts, she proclaimed herself a “free thinker” who was “unmasked, unmuzzled, unvaccinated, unafraid”. In one photo, she held up a protest sign reading “Give a voice to the vaccine injured”.
    On 15 September, multiple family members announced that Ms Lowery had died, and a GoFundMe was set up for her funeral expenses.
    “My beautiful niece has lost her battle against Covid,” an aunt wrote. “My heart is breaking for her 4 kids ... So many people need her here, but God must have special plans for her in heaven.”
    https://uk.yahoo.com/news/california...181658781.html

    But for a simple trip to a clinic and a vaccination, four children have lost their mother. To call it God's plan is an insult to the intelligence. Was the woman herself and her children vaccinated against Polio, Measles? At what point if ever did someone in the family try to persuade her to do the right thing for herself and her children? It would be easy to write her off as a right-wing nutcase, but where was the woman getting her information from? Vaccinated Tucker Carlson? Vaccinated Donald Trump?

    There are too many stories like this of people campaigning against the cause of their own death, there is nothing here to feel smug about, but a lot to raise concern that in a country of well-educated people, ignorance can command such drastic decision making.


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