Lisa Lawyer - not only did she become a man...

[GroobySteven]

there were other shemales who changed back to males for whatever reason?
just curios

Yep I've heard of a few.
seanchai

[hondarobot]

bible thumper?

cause she loves god makes her a bad person? NO

what an asshole

there are many transexuals who are christians

Heh. I've tried not to get into these topics in the past, but. . .
Might want to follow your own advice
(And I had to google this, I'm not an organized religeon enthusiast)
It's spelled Religion
Jesus said, "But I say to you that whoever looks at a woman to lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart" (Matthew 5:28 NKJV)

Apparently adultery is considered one of the Big Sins, right? This isn't one of the apostles saying this either, it's apparently the big J laying down the law.
Adultery is sex outside the marriage vows. Fornication is sex outside of marriage period.
I bet you look at women with lust.

But, what's the big deal? He'll forgive you if you ask for it. That's his job. That's supposedly why he got nailed to some planks of wood. You got an easy out, go ahead and exploit the "redemption" loop hole once it becomes convenient for you. Just ask for forgiveness. "God" falls for that cop-out all the time, I'm sure.

Nothing wrong with believing in or wondering about the existence of a Creator Entity, but human beings certainly couldn't fathom it's nature even remotely. If you're loving the "God" depicted in the christian bible, you're a big fan of fairy tales, and honestly, an idiot.

Mr. Hondarobot (if that is your real name). I request of you to please refrain from engaging in debates on orgainsed religion when you quite clearly do not know your subject.

You sir, are an idiot.

I believe it's spelled "organized" (unless you are from across the pond, then "organised" might do). I think we all have a little "idiot" in us.

I believe we should all just jump right in! The water is fine! Plenty deep, so head first works.

Oh no, I've got some Treesy guy and some character with an iron knee forming a posse out to get me.

And no, I'm not from across the pond. I just spelled organized with a british flair because the guy calling me sir made me realize my dream of one day being knighted.

[mrironknee]

The Treesy guy spelled it "orgainsed".
The rest of it is yours.
I guess you needed to mix the facts as a form of your own artistic license?
Well done, Sir.

[hondarobot]

The Treesy guy spelled it "orgainsed".
The rest of it is yours.
I guess you needed to mix the facts as a form of your own artistic license?
Well done, Sir.

Ha! Well met, sir Ironknee. The way things are going we're gonna need a round table around here pretty soon.

I see you've only been booked into Hotel Hung Angels a few months now, there are several reoccuring themes here you'll notice over time. One is the Irrational Snap-Back, which I just unfortunately demonstrated on you.

It's when a long time poster here takes an innocent or amusing post, and for a variety of reasons interprets things incorrectly as a personal attack, then strikes back without realizing the true intentions of the comment.

I did a Snap Back which wasn't warrented. At least it wasn't a viscious attack, as has happened on this forum before.

This place can start to play tricks on your mind after awhile. . . Like the desert. . . or the swamps, or whatever. . . maybe I'm just thinking of a line from some stupid Charlie Daniels song. . .

[mrironknee]

Yes, I am fairly new here, but not new to this type of forum.
I came for the fetish, and the wordsmith sparring is like a tasty side dish to the Main Course of lovely Tgirl flesh.
I would hope my posts are fairly amusing, rarely innocent (if you look and read deeply enough), but usually evoke a bit of critical thought.
I did include you in my initial comment, but nothing is ever personal. Whether or not it ever "warrants" a snap-back on your part is entirely up to you. I welcome your responses.
En garde!

[BeardedOne]

Hunh, and here I thought we were all abusing our 'autistic license'.

[mrironknee]

Idiot is not necessarily a bad word if it is followed by the word "savant"?

[RangeHova]

You seem obsessed with this "true TS" thingy. Just what does that mean to you?

I am not obsessed with this in any way. I just think people need to stop drawing such bold lines and putting people in boxes. We are too quick to label a person a TS just because they have tits and a cock without knowing anything else about them, without even asking them how they view themselves.

I know many girls who have transitioned, live and work as female who will tell anyone and everyone who ask 'I'm a man who lives as a woman'. One of my closer friends is in that category. A very beautiful, very passable girl that could easily hide behind her beauty and ability to be seen as a woman but does not see herself as a TS or a female. She proudly proclaims herself to be a man who chose to live the way she does.

It is why most reputible doctors won't operate on a girl without her doing more than self diagnosing herself to be TS. Without a doubt, most girls who feel they are TS actually are TS but some aren't. I'm sure others on the board that have been around the scene, known some girls on personal levels, and have friends that are TS have seen a few girls who later realized they weren't transsexual at all.

Why is pointing out that fact seen as an obsession? I don't see the problem with pointing out obvious fact.

Maybe, just maybe Lisa never really was a TS. Maybe she got caught up in something that wasn't her. It happens.

[BrendaQG]

@ Range Hova.

The thing about the way your friend put it is she has basically defined the word transsexual for you. She defines herself as "A man who lives like a woman." The way she describes herself defines transsexual. Therefore you have meet a "true transsexual" already. I mean what do you expect a true transsexual to be like.

SRS does not make one a woman; wanting SRS ASAP does not make one transsexual.

Do you realize there are men who want SRS, transition enough to get SRS then de transition because they never wanted to be women. They are not unhappy with this though because they wanted part of a womans body. Because they get off on that. Are they really truly transsexual for wanting bottom surgery? :-\ I sure don't think so.

On the other hand do not think that a true transsexual is impervious to the pressure of those around him/her. I'll bet the subject of this thread had to deal with being told or thinking that she was going to hell for a long time. As someone who has seen and lived that I can tell you there is a 50/50 chance this person will retransition to female life. She just will not be in porno. It may be the porno and/or "the life" that made her bury her transsexualism. She may eventually see that "the life" is not 100% requierd of a transsexual someday.

Again as far as Lisa Lawler in particular is concrened that is just my uninformed opinion.

[NickTheQuick]

She's know a bible thumper and is trying to "save us" and convert us to save our souls.

seanchai

Can't say I am that surprised.